Originally posted by Celusios

I feel as though this game just went into development. It's really sad the products being put out on the market these days.

Yeah, actually it's kinda scandalous. This is the sort of thing that I would expect to be shown to potential funders not to potential customers. I just wonder if they have what it takes to get it in shape.

Originally posted by Celusios

This game is probably the worst MMORPG title on the market. Anyone who does not believe me get a beta key and hop into the game. Character creation is lacking as crap, UI sucks, and of course the movement controls are HORRID.

This is just like the thread that say Rift is the best game of 2011, stop sharing out "awards" before the year is over. Just say thta you don't like it and why.

I waited years for this and finally got a beta key. After playing for a short while... what have they been doing all these years? This isnt even close to being ready for release. Its not even beta standard its alpha, I'm crushed. :(

Everything I saw in game felt sloppy and poorly developed. I really wanted to give it a honest try and hope that it would improve but I really couldnt put up with it. Really basic things like that you cant even remap your keys without editing LUA files as they've not put that functionality in yet. It was so poorly done I got angry at the wasted potential and uninstalled.

Those flamming, did you research the game prior to installing and know the type of game it was or did you just think 'excelent, free game for a bit'? Not an insult, a genuine question, nothing wrong with free game :)

Originally posted by EveJunkie

I waited years for this and finally got a beta key. After playing for a short while... what have they been doing all these years? This isnt even close to being ready for release. Its not even beta standard its alpha, I'm crushed. :(

Everything I saw in game felt sloppy and poorly developed. I really wanted to give it a honest try and hope that it would improve but I really couldnt put up with it. Really basic things like that you cant even remap your keys without editing LUA files as they've not put that functionality in yet. It was so poorly done I got angry at the wasted potential and uninstalled.

This is exactly how I feel about the game. A few years ago I was really hyped about the game and kept checking fairly often for release dates / beta dates. And yes, the game plays as if it's in Alpha. Whatever excuses or cakes you ER fanbois come with it doesn't change the fact that this IS NOT something that should be released in a few days. They might be a bunch of indie developers, but how many years has this been in development? How many years have they had the "Exclusive Screenshots"? And how many beta videos have we gotten? This might not have much to do with the actual development team, but sure as hell needs a lot more work before being released.

As for the controls, oh god this must be the clunkiest and worst controls I've ever come across. If you're in battle mode without the camera locked to your cursor, you can't turn the character (only the camera). When the camera is locked, if you turn too fast your character turns too much and kind of moves the camera by itself (somewhat like Oblivion in 3rd person view). Also, the jumping, it's like you're a fat McDonalds regular trying to jump, you barely get off the ground.

I really don't want to trash-talk this game, but the state of the game has led me to do so. It's in a state so far away from anything releasable that I really have to throw my opinions out here. All I can say is good luck to the devs trying to get this game as good and stable as possible so they don't go bankrupt or the game dies completely. I for one won't put my hands on this game for probably a year or more. I'll give them that much time to fix it before I give it a shot.

/Whiney off

Nothing can be worse than MO LOL..

Saying that the price alone scared me away from this game...

i do like sandbox type games.. I play darkfall at the moment and love it..

I was looking forward to a decend scifi game but from what ive been reading im really glad i never bothered pre-ordering..

Originally posted by mrw0lf

Those flamming, did you research the game prior to installing and know the type of game it was or did you just think 'excelent, free game for a bit'? Not an insult, a genuine question, nothing wrong with free game :)

You're brave! Six months ago I would have been on your side.

Today, it is the 1 of february. Release in 3 days. Today, the question is how many posters are ready to pay 49€ to Beta-test the Alpha version of this game. How many peoples here are ready to sacrify their free first month today, knowing that most of the content will not be released before April?

A serious question.

Where did it go wrong ? I mean they had to rewamp the combat system. (How they could not se that it needed it is beyond me) To few assets / to little time ? 6 or 7 years contra darkfalls about the same.

From videos the skills seem kind of thought out. Have pre-ordered in hope of future miracles.

Pointless post but still. There it is.

I like how the guy creating the thread complains about movement, and the problem is he is to lazy to read the first page that pops up when you log in "Movement". Thats all I need to read, I cant listen to any of your complaints after such a fail.

As for the game, yeah it sucks, but I think I like it. Deffinately a game I want to be part of early, even though the problems will be many.

Originally posted by EveJunkie

I waited years for this and finally got a beta key. After playing for a short while... what have they been doing all these years? This isnt even close to being ready for release. Its not even beta standard its alpha, I'm crushed. :(

Everything I saw in game felt sloppy and poorly developed. I really wanted to give it a honest try and hope that it would improve but I really couldnt put up with it. Really basic things like that you cant even remap your keys without editing LUA files as they've not put that functionality in yet. It was so poorly done I got angry at the wasted potential and uninstalled.

 not really its beta alpha ussly unplayable

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Celusios

This game is probably the worst MMORPG title on the market. Anyone who does not believe me get a beta key and hop into the game. Character creation is lacking as crap, UI sucks, and of course the movement controls are HORRID.

This is just like the thread that say Rift is the best game of 2011, stop sharing out "awards" before the year is over. Just say thta you don't like it and why.

well said.  

Originally posted by Celusios

Originally posted by gigat

Originally posted by Celusios

This game is probably the worst MMORPG title on the market. Anyone who does not believe me get a beta key and hop into the game. Character creation is lacking as crap, UI sucks, and of course the movement controls are HORRID.

I haven't played the game yet. Character creation, UI, and movement controls? That's it?

What about other aspects of the game?

It was so shitty I couldn't even bother. This is all opinionated of course... I couldn't even really move. Like tradtionally you can click or move with WSAD. Well you can move with WSAD however, it's not entirely accurate nor does the camera move. Character creation you get like 10 faces to pick from, and a few hair styles. You cannot customize anything but those (and race of course and skin color/hair color). UI looks like some stuff from 2001. The quests made no sense.. nor was there a story introduction to explain anything going on.

 

On a positive note, it does have some pretty nice looking graphics.

So you came posting here because you didn't read the big popup window telling you how to move and switch combat and movement modes? okay. move along.

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Originally posted by astoria

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Originally posted by Celusios

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Originally posted by gigat

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Originally posted by Celusios
This game is probably the worst MMORPG title on the market. Anyone who does not believe me get a beta key and hop into the game. Character creation is lacking as crap, UI sucks, and of course the movement controls are HORRID.

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I haven't played the game yet. Character creation, UI, and movement controls? That's it?
What about other aspects of the game?

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It was so shitty I couldn't even bother. This is all opinionated of course... I couldn't even really move. Like tradtionally you can click or move with WSAD. Well you can move with WSAD however, it's not entirely accurate nor does the camera move. Character creation you get like 10 faces to pick from, and a few hair styles. You cannot customize anything but those (and race of course and skin color/hair color). UI looks like some stuff from 2001. The quests made no sense.. nor was there a story introduction to explain anything going on.
 
On a positive note, it does have some pretty nice looking graphics.

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So you came posting here because you didn't read the big popup window telling you how to move and switch combat and movement modes? okay. move along.

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Originally posted by cyress8

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Originally posted by astoria

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Originally posted by Celusios

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Originally posted by gigat

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Originally posted by Celusios
This game is probably the worst MMORPG title on the market. Anyone who does not believe me get a beta key and hop into the game. Character creation is lacking as crap, UI sucks, and of course the movement controls are HORRID.

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I haven't played the game yet. Character creation, UI, and movement controls? That's it?
What about other aspects of the game?

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It was so shitty I couldn't even bother. This is all opinionated of course... I couldn't even really move. Like tradtionally you can click or move with WSAD. Well you can move with WSAD however, it's not entirely accurate nor does the camera move. Character creation you get like 10 faces to pick from, and a few hair styles. You cannot customize anything but those (and race of course and skin color/hair color). UI looks like some stuff from 2001. The quests made no sense.. nor was there a story introduction to explain anything going on.
 
On a positive note, it does have some pretty nice looking graphics.

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So you came posting here because you didn't read the big popup window telling you how to move and switch combat and movement modes? okay. move along.

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You can dismiss his statement, however, he is correct. The controls really do need some work . They just do not flow as well as other mmo games or even a single player TPS game. Tabula Rasa had decent movement and shooting controls. They will probably get it up to that level in time.

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Originally posted by Tredo

Well, I have played for about 3 hours total, there is not story line, there is not direction, graphics are no better than Runes of Magic, UI is for sure something from 2001 or before. The game play sucks, there is not course of tutorials for anything other then go kill this with this gun, go kill this with this other gun and thats about it. Once you get off the n00b island more of go kill this, and then go kill that, no tutorial for crafting or anything else. You basically walk around lost and hope someone tells you were to go find the mob you need to kill. Controls are horrid, you have to know the right combination of keys to get the outcome you need in order to pick something or to click something or to go into combat mode or look around... horrible set up. Epic fail imho worse then FFIVX.

 This is a SANDBOX game. Its not going to hold your hand and give you an arrow to follow. Your supposed to have to explore the world and find creatures for quests etc.

People who complain about the controls either aren't able to change from the standard mmo or just don't read the manual. You use WASD to move and strafe, QE to turn, and alt to switch between combat mode (when you right click you shoot) and exploration mode (you have a mouse and can interact with objects). TAB switches between the two aiming modes (one gives you a locked cursor that moves the screen like a shooter, the other gives you a free coursor thats like every MMO).

The UI  is basic but its fine, of course I've never been one to complain about any UI. Graphics are actaully pretty good on max.

It sounds like ALOT of the people posting hate about this game didn't know anything about it and just grabbed a beta key. Like this poster above me he didn't even take the time to explore the world or learn the controls. It's not a theme park MMO and it won't hold your hand.

Personally I'm having a blast with the game. The world is the best open MMO world I've ever seen, the PvP is fun and unique, and the 250+ skills will keep anyone who likes figuring out fun character builds interested for a long time.

Originally posted by cyress8

 

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Originally posted by astoria

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Originally posted by Celusios

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Originally posted by gigat

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Originally posted by Celusios
This game is probably the worst MMORPG title on the market. Anyone who does not believe me get a beta key and hop into the game. Character creation is lacking as crap, UI sucks, and of course the movement controls are HORRID.

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I haven't played the game yet. Character creation, UI, and movement controls? That's it?
What about other aspects of the game?

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It was so shitty I couldn't even bother. This is all opinionated of course... I couldn't even really move. Like tradtionally you can click or move with WSAD. Well you can move with WSAD however, it's not entirely accurate nor does the camera move. Character creation you get like 10 faces to pick from, and a few hair styles. You cannot customize anything but those (and race of course and skin color/hair color). UI looks like some stuff from 2001. The quests made no sense.. nor was there a story introduction to explain anything going on.
 
On a positive note, it does have some pretty nice looking graphics.

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So you came posting here because you didn't read the big popup window telling you how to move and switch combat and movement modes? okay. move along.

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You can dismiss his statement, however, he is correct. The controls really do need some work . They just do not flow as well as other mmo games or even a single player TPS game. Tabula Rasa had decent movement and shooting controls. They will probably get it up to that level in time.

 

 Tabula Rasa did have great controls and they remind me of Earthrise. Still he exaggerated to the point of inaccuracy. It took some getting used to the Alt and Tab, like 1 minute. Now, if I can't remap them, I'll join the complainers. Something that basic I'll put on a mouse or g13 button.

first off this game might have some pontential but the way the gear is so overpowering really limits the game. right now tech 3 gear takes about 10 noobs to take them down.

now lets excelerate this to 2 years. they now have tech 20 armor. how and why would any noob ever want to join.

eves ships all have there advantages and disadvantages, even now its  not unheard for a t1 frigate gang to form and set up to have some fun and wreck havock.

also as far as sandbox goes its more of a comunal sandbox game, you free mines to help everyone. you build mines for your corp so the corp benefits. so the sandbox seems to imply corp or guild sandbox.

And the developer sdo not give any type of specific mechanics and there very vague in responses if they respond.

Its also not full loot becuase the cost to insure everything important is negligeble.

If MHS wants my money, I want an elaborate plan presented to me, not vague promises. I want to see the rule sets up front. and I want to hear there plans for the future and the rules sets for them. Not were going to have vehicles.

can you build the vehicles, can they have weapons on them, can you steal them can you blow them up.

I think if MHS actually had someone who worked PR and would speak to there potential cusutmers and disemenate useful information it would go along way with alleaving fears.

for starters is that it for the character creators, or do all women have to have blonder hair, even if your a black women.

The only sandbox game i ever played was SWG and it was never in this state when it first launched. It also gave the players a bit more direction that what ER is giving for sure. I remember just logging into SWG for the first time right in the middle of Corellia city. Even though i was like a lost puppy, you could clearly see trainers, bazzars, the spaceport and after choosing which proffession you wanted, the meatlumps right out of the city were prime picking for grinding xp. ER, even though is in the same vain, it seems to be just in a very messed up state and doesn't seem like it will ever reach that type of polish SWG had in the sandbox mmo genre.

Originally posted by musicmann

The only sandbox game i ever played was SWG and it was never in this state when it first launched. It also gave the players a bit more direction that what ER is giving for sure. I remember just logging into SWG for the first time right in the middle of Corellia city. Even though i was like a lost puppy, you could clearly see trainers, bazzars, the spaceport and after choosing which proffession you wanted, the meatlumps right out of the city were prime picking for grinding xp. ER, even though is in the same vain, it seems to be just in a very messed up state and doesn't seem like it will ever reach that type of polish SWG had in the sandbox mmo genre.

MHS against SOE... you are joking right.