As the title reads I want an MMO to come out featuring zombies and permadeath. Now tell me this wouldn't be an insanely popular game.

Permadeath would keep the game refreshing in and of itself. Everyday a new struggle to stay alive or all your work is <poof> gone. I have so many ideas for a game like this that its retarded. But honestly am i the only one who wants this?

i definetly want it, i pray everyday for a badass zombie mmo to come out

Originally posted by ace5572

As the title reads I want an MMO to come out featuring zombies and permadeath. Now tell me this wouldn't be an insanely popular game.

Permadeath would keep the game refreshing in and of itself. Everyday a new struggle to stay alive or all your work is gone. I have so many ideas for a game like this that its retarded. But honestly am i the only one who wants this?

A Zombie mmo with permadeath?

Does anyone else see the irony in this?

In any case, there is a zombie mmo being made. Though I don't know the details.

die2nite.com

browser game that requires an insane amount of teamwork and truly simulates the zombie apocalypse. Once your dead it is time for a restart with a new group of strangers to try to survive it all over again. Game is alot of fun and a weird mix of game/forums.

http://undeadlabs.com/

Originally posted by romanator0

http://undeadlabs.com/

 are they continuing their idiotic ambition to make this game only for consoles?

*edit yup, they are. im gonna enjoy watching them fail as a company :)  what a waste of potential.  these people should be arrested for stupidity.

Originally posted by romanator0

http://undeadlabs.com/

I really wish they'd come up with a name for this so it can stop being refered to as "the undead labs zombie mmo".

Doesn't roll off the tounge really.

But also after playing DCUO, I've got even higher hopes now for this game. MMO's on console have definite advantages to compensate for their limitations.

As much as people with the bleeding-edge rigs hate it, standardized hardware can mean a faster, more efficient production cycle.

Instead of making the various graphic sets to cover a spectrum of system settings, they just need to make 480i, 720p, 1080i/p.

They only have the small set of hardware revisions that the console has to test against vs the infinite build options that PC can cover.

Plus, standardized interface and hardware means the only determining factors of gameplay will be playerskill and internet connection.

Everyones hardware will be responding the same, if its choppy for one person in a group, its probably choppy for the other. Can't blame your computer being slow for dying, because everyones on the same machine.

As for handling death, there should be a few server types to accomodate different levels of survivalism.

Have the "normal" mode servers where theres some death penalty, but its not brutal.

An Expert server thats semi-permadeath, where your corpse can get rescued to give you another life.

And then a "STALKER on Master" server, where most people will be killed by dogs and have their corpse's dragged off into the woods within 2hrs or rolling the char.

Having permadeath as an opt-in option with its own rewards is good, but 100%-permadeath is not something that will draw enough people in to play, and basically excludes meaningful PvP.

If it takes 40hrs+ to reach peak-efficiency in the game, its not as appealing to lose all that to the broad market, and any game getting any real funding is being backed with the assumption that it targets a broad market unless specifically otherwise marketed.

Soften those blows though, have servers where the game can be learned, others where the penalties/challenge can be increased, and "master-class" servers where people can get put in their places.

Originally posted by Haegemon

Originally posted by romanator0

http://undeadlabs.com/

 

I really wish they'd come up with a name for this so it can stop being refered to as "the undead labs zombie mmo".

Doesn't roll off the tounge really.

 

But also after playing DCUO, I've got even higher hopes now for this game. MMO's on console have definite advantages to compensate for their limitations.

As much as people with the bleeding-edge rigs hate it, standardized hardware can mean a faster, more efficient production cycle.

Instead of making the various graphic sets to cover a spectrum of system settings, they just need to make 480i, 720p, 1080i/p.

They only have the small set of hardware revisions that the console has to test against vs the infinite build options that PC can cover.

Plus, standardized interface and hardware means the only determining factors of gameplay will be playerskill and internet connection.

Everyones hardware will be responding the same, if its choppy for one person in a group, its probably choppy for the other. Can't blame your computer being slow for dying, because everyones on the same machine.

 

As for handling death, there should be a few server types to accomodate different levels of survivalism.

Have the "normal" mode servers where theres some death penalty, but its not brutal.

An Expert server thats semi-permadeath, where your corpse can get rescued to give you another life.

And then a "STALKER on Master" server, where most people will be killed by dogs and have their corpse's dragged off into the woods within 2hrs or rolling the char.

Having permadeath as an opt-in option with its own rewards is good, but 100%-permadeath is not something that will draw enough people in to play, and basically excludes meaningful PvP.

If it takes 40hrs+ to reach peak-efficiency in the game, its not as appealing to lose all that to the broad market, and any game getting any real funding is being backed with the assumption that it targets a broad market unless specifically otherwise marketed.

Soften those blows though, have servers where the game can be learned, others where the penalties/challenge can be increased, and "master-class" servers where people can get put in their places.

 yeah, let's hope that this mmo is as good as DCUO....

/moving right along

Console games are designed with one major trait built into their design; to be short and closed ended.  this is so as to not hang players up on anyone title, therebye stifling the desire for whichever junk title is being released in the next quarter.  (not to mention the rental market)  

this is just not conducive to any of the factors of MMO's.  this game will will be hot for a month or two, mostly due to the fact it is in ANYWAY related to zombies, but as the console fans do what console fans ALWAYS do, move along to the next flashy commericial game, this one will feel as obsolete as any console game does, 3 + months following its release.  

its a terrible waste of resources and a suicidally poor business plan.  im sure the game would've been otherwise great (hey! i love zombies in any form) but once this game gets outed as NOT the next L4D type game, most pimply faced shooter lovers will toss it over their shoulders.

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by ace5572

As the title reads I want an MMO to come out featuring zombies and permadeath. Now tell me this wouldn't be an insanely popular game.

Permadeath would keep the game refreshing in and of itself. Everyday a new struggle to stay alive or all your work is gone. I have so many ideas for a game like this that its retarded. But honestly am i the only one who wants this?

A Zombie mmo with permadeath?

Does anyone else see the irony in this?

 

In any case, there is a zombie mmo being made. Though I don't know the details.

  My first thoughts too, but it could be done, maybe something like.. if your guy "dies" he becomes an AI controlled zombie!

 Hah, that would be pretty interesting if you think about it. Have AI controlled characters of dead players, with all their current stats/gear/etc, it would make the game increasingly more challenging as time went on, and it would never be the same repeated experience because of it.

Originally posted by ace5572

As the title reads I want an MMO to come out featuring zombies and permadeath. Now tell me this wouldn't be an insanely popular game.

Permadeath would keep the game refreshing in and of itself. Everyday a new struggle to stay alive or all your work is gone. I have so many ideas for a game like this that its retarded. But honestly am i the only one who wants this?

I think a zombie MMO with permadeath would be really popular if it wasn't action-based.

Perhaps a zombie game which focuses on survival, not shooting zombies FPS style, would fit with permadeath far far better.

Or just a RPG, either turn based or not-twitch-based MMORPG style.

A RPG is also the perfect way to handle this because twitch-based games with permadeath can drive people to rage far far easier than a game where STRATEGY, planning, and character development are far far more important. A game with permadeath where you know, before you go, if you will live or die: to at least some degree.

It's really sad to me the way people's brains shut down at the word 'permadeath.' You can still have advancement and permadeath at the same time. MMOs have done it before, and, in some ways, it's more addictive than having one character.

Yes please.

I'd love the intense feeling of having to fight for survival every day and it would make events so friggin scary too... Like, it'd be like living it because your friends might actually feel bad if they get you killed, you might actually rage quit if you die, and depending on how the graphics are, you may actually shit your pants when something jumps out at you.

Might have to put some kind of disclaimer up so you don't get sued for people smashing their monitors though...

Edit;

Yeah there could still be tons of advancement. Mostly reputation with NPC's and skills though. Don't put all of combat on stats if there's gonna be permadeath. It's best if it's like FPS for ranged weapons and like Idk hammer on CTRL to attack and hold ALT to block for melee.

Some of it's on how you want to do the zombies too. Is there infection, or are they animated corpses? Infection could put an interesting spin on PVP and, who knows, maybe you'll get your char back some day when the cure is found.

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by ace5572

As the title reads I want an MMO to come out featuring zombies and permadeath. Now tell me this wouldn't be an insanely popular game.

Permadeath would keep the game refreshing in and of itself. Everyday a new struggle to stay alive or all your work is gone. I have so many ideas for a game like this that its retarded. But honestly am i the only one who wants this?

A Zombie mmo with permadeath?

Does anyone else see the irony in this?

 

I see it yes!

And it gave me an Idea actually.

What if, every time a player Dies, they turn in to a Zombie NPC that adds to the population of Zombies in the world?

So the player comes back with a different Avatar, and the struggle continues :)