Originally posted by Solestran

Yeah, I'd love to see how you guys would react if it were your itellectual property that was being misused.  Especially in a way that undermines any future plans you may have for the IP.  I'm willing to bet my life that most if not all of you would be up in arms with lynch rope in hand.  Not only upset at the principle of the matter, but the detrimental effects on income as well.

 

Sorry...but if someone was able to take a product that I created and was able to make it better. Then more power to that person!

Heck, if Blizzard is so flippin' worried about their copyright and Itellectual property,  then they (Blizzard) shouldn't have rolled out the SDK software so that the player base can mod their product.

If anything Blizzard should offer that person(s) a job and take their idea and their software code to the next level and turn that into a cash cow for them both.

-Slider7

Originally posted by Solestran

Originally posted by Meowhead

Originally posted by Solestran

Originally posted by kishe

They make modding tools for Starcraft...then when people mod Starcraft, they pull copyrights on them?

 They weren't modding SC2, they were making a completely different game with the modding tool and to make it worse, labeling it as World of Starcraft.  I mean really, it's indefensible by anyone but asshats.

Uh, no.  They were totally modding SC2.  The SC2 mod tools are pretty amazingly flexible, really.  This would have been simply a mod that was unplayable unless you actually own SC2.  It's not like the man was stealing their money or something.

Yes, they probably have to make the guy stop, to protect their own copyright, but they could have been nicer about it.  There's a huge gap between 'Can't you be a bit more polite when fans are using your own modding tools to create a mod of one of your games' and 'asshat'.

 

 It's no longer modding if they completely change the format of the game.  How the hell do you equate a SC2 mod with a MMO style game labeled as World of Starcraft?  They aren't modding SC2, they are creating a completely different kind of game, using the SC2 engine and mod tools.

 Thats still modding... You would still need SC2 and have to go through battlenet, the creator already stated that. 

And I really think the only reason they are trying to get this down is because of the name, jsut like everyone else has said.  It's clear he isn't doing this for profit, but they want to protect the name.  Just think, no one made a fuss about dota and it was well accepted.  If anything, they could probably use his creation to make money since it would have to be accepted by Blizzard to be placed on battlenet and, in a sense, donated.  But they won't let this guy be the creator of something called World of Starcraft, even if they profit from it.  The name is worth a lot by itself and they won't let it be ruined.

LOL I knew this would happen.

 Haha, pretty silly for them to take action when starcraft and warcraft are their two best sellers, was only a matter of time until someone tried to marry the two when given permission to use their tools.

 I seriously laughed at that, but maybe their next unnamed mmo actually is World of Starcraft? It could explain this nonsense lol.

Originally posted by just2duh

I seriously laughed at that, but maybe their next unnamed mmo actually is World of Starcraft? It could explain this nonsense lol.

Idd, but I think it would be Universe of Starcraft ;)

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Originally posted by Silverbarr

Originally posted by just2duh

I seriously laughed at that, but maybe their next unnamed mmo actually is World of Starcraft? It could explain this nonsense lol.

Idd, but I think it would be Universe of Starcraft ;)

 

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  Hah, touchè

Originally posted by Meowhead

Originally posted by Solestran

 It's no longer modding if they completely change the format of the game.  How the hell do you equate a SC2 mod with a MMO style game labeled as World of Starcraft?  They aren't modding SC2, they are creating a completely different kind of game, using the SC2 engine and mod tools.

 

You are aware that Blizzard themselves made 'StarJeweled', a mod that turns Starcraft 2 into a Bejeweled version of Starcraft, right?  Along with several other mods that completely change the gametype (Including a co-op survival game called Left 2 Die?  Which seems suspiciously close to ANOTHER game's title, yet Valve never got around to sending them a cease and desist.  Speaking of which, they also made 'Blizzard DoTA', when Valve owns the copyright to DoTA.  Huh.  So asshattery is okay if it's Blizzard, but not if you're an independent modder?)?  To show people that it can be done, and encourage people to do other things like that?

There are mods that make SC2 a turn based JRPG style game, and a kart racer, and Blizzard/Activision are fully aware they exist.

You really don't have the slightest idea about the SC2 mod tools, do you?  Are you just making up stuff to make yourself sound smarter or something?

I think everyone is missing the point, and you are almost making it here.

Originally posted by chaosngn

I think everyone is missing the point, and you are almost making it here. They are working on Starcraft Universe no matter what they've told you in the past, and this just pissed them. It's Activision mostly.

Oh, whether or not they're making World of Starcraft, or whatever they want to name it, they want to protect their trademarks and copyrights and whatnot.  I don't think anybody here is debating that.  Whether they're going to make a Starcraft MMO at some point in time is almost irrelevant, because they have to act as if they were getting ready to any moment now.

My only issue is that some people don't seem to understand what you can and can't do (legally and coding-wise) with the Starcraft 2 mod program. :)

So funny...blizzard gives out the tools and then says "hey don't use them".... Personally they should IMO...hire the guy.

Everyone saw this coming. And I am a glad this project is getting shut down. Not to be mean to the developer of the mod, but it's just not his place to make a MMO like this. He probably new this was going to happen, but he probably did this to bring it up. And anyways if Blizzard did let this project continue, and it was a successful project people would probably flock to the mod instead of playing Starcraft the RTS like WoW did to Warcraft the RTS. So for the sack of the series Blizzard had to shut it down. Although, I do agree a lawsuit is a little much, but Blizzard had to get rid of it  as quickly as possible.

In the US you can't copyright a title, and trademark protection is for businesses operating in the same sphere. This guy isn't doing business in any sphere, and Blizzard's lawyers know they can't sue him anymore than they can sue a snowplow manufacturer or a two kids putting on a play for their parents. They also haven't lifted a finger to protect "World of" in their own industry. This is a meaningless gesture.

And silly too, because the only reason anyone enjoys all this tacky Warhammer fanfic is because Blizzard is really good at making it.

Originally posted by Roman291

Everyone saw this coming. And I am a glad this project is getting shut down. Not to be mean to the developer of the mod, but it's just not his place to make a MMO like this. He probably new this was going to happen, but he probably did this to bring it up. And anyways if Blizzard did let this project continue, and it was a successful project people would probably flock to the mod instead of playing Starcraft the RTS like WoW did to Warcraft the RTS. So for the sack of the series Blizzard had to shut it down. Although, I do agree a lawsuit is a little much, but Blizzard had to get rid of it  as quickly as possible.

No lawsuit, just a little muscling the stuff out of Youtube, mostly.

Also, this guy's World of Starcraft wouldn't be a TRUE MMO.  It would be more of a lobby game, since it would be using SC2 and Battlenet as the base framework.  You would only be able to party with whatever the max group size is in Battlenet, and I'm not sure if you could make the maps persistent.  (I would think they would reset whenever you leave).  So basically a bunch of instances.

Also, DoTA was an insanely popular WC3 mod, and they never shut it down... they don't care if people play the mods more, or even exclusively, since that still leads to more sales of the game.

Originally posted by traesame

Once again people see what is obviously at least a trademark case and scream ‘Copyright, bla, bla, bla.” Trademark and copyright are not the same thing. While copyright law is being invoked here as well, it is Trademark law which requires them to step in.

Haha, I should actually know better too.  Oh well.  I can never keep copyright and trademark straight, which is probably why I'm not a lawyer.

Originally posted by Roman291

Everyone saw this coming. And I am a glad this project is getting shut down. Not to be mean to the developer of the mod, but it's just not his place to make a MMO like this. He probably new this was going to happen, but he probably did this to bring it up. And anyways if Blizzard did let this project continue, and it was a successful project people would probably flock to the mod instead of playing Starcraft the RTS like WoW did to Warcraft the RTS. So for the sack of the series Blizzard had to shut it down. Although, I do agree a lawsuit is a little much, but Blizzard had to get rid of it  as quickly as possible.

He can still make the mod, he just can't use the name and people still need SC2 and be on Bnet to even play the mod. Oh, there is no lawsuit that we know of only a copyright infringment of the name.

Originally posted by Silverbarr

Originally posted by just2duh

I seriously laughed at that, but maybe their next unnamed mmo actually is World of Starcraft? It could explain this nonsense lol.

Idd, but I think it would be Universe of Starcraft ;)

 

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 It's called Titan.

Originally posted by Hakoten

 It's called Titan.

Actually, they've already said that's only the project code name.

That happens a lot when things aren't released yet, they just get some cool sounding code name as a placeholder until it really has a name.  Either because they haven't decided on a name, or because the name gives away too much, or for whatever reason.

Originally posted by SBFord

Let me assure you that I am in no way shape or form going to deliver anything less than complete perfection.

I don't feel bad for this guy because he was "bullied" on YouTube by Activision-Blizzard. I feel bad because he's so delusional and (seemingly) overconfident.

The title probably raised red flags for Blizzard. Could see this coming.

Originally posted by Solestran

Originally posted by kishe

They make modding tools for Starcraft...then when people mod Starcraft, they pull copyrights on them?

 They weren't modding SC2, they were making a completely different game with the modding tool and to make it worse, labeling it as World of Starcraft.  I mean really, it's indefensible by anyone but asshats.

 

It is a SC2 mod... not separate. Just so ya know. People will still need to own Startcraft 2 for this to be playable, so Blizzard should make even bigger profit margins from it. I haven't bought SC2 yet, but I bet I will if this mod works like I hope it does.