Let me preface by saying i think WoW is a very well done game.

My problem is not with WoW its with the rest of these so called developers out there that take WoW and just add a little twist here or there.

Hey lets take WOW and have a bit more focus on RVR

hey lets take WoW and add a more open class system

Hey lets take WOW and give it star wars skins

hey lets take WoW and set it in norrath

Hey lets take WoW and give them guns

Hey lets take WoW and but set it in a comic book

we get it WoW is a big moneymaker, they are the largest MMO out there but that doesn't mean their way is the ONLY way so you have to copy it directly.

I am done with this genre till some AAA company pulls their heads from their rear and realizes that if people wanted to play WoW they will just play WoW, we need some originality.

Please tell me...if you replaced WoW with themepark how would the outcome be any different? You either like mmos or don't

thats all fine and good.

Now, what do you want?  What do you want developers to do differently than WoW? Can you think of anything someone hasnt tried already?

Thread is fail sorry.

Originally posted by Asheram

LOL

EVE?

Originally posted by AlysenMinase

EVE?

 not themepark.

not fantasy.

the topic is "stealthily" about what a fantasy themepark that isnt wow-alike looks like.

Originally posted by Robokapp

Originally posted by AlysenMinase

EVE?

 not themepark.

not fantasy.

 

the topic is "stealthily" about what a fantasy themepark that isnt wow-alike looks like.

It looks like FFXIV and we see how well that worked...

That is like saying all single player games should be that same you have no idea how ignorant that sounds, I am not calling you ignorant but someone who is a gamer in many ways find this statement almost unbarable. The thing is if they keep making games like wow people will want something differant all those kids who started in wow 4 5 years ago are growing up want something new and fresh, just like the console and pc gaming industry games need to evolve and change to entertain just like movies and tv shows.

You cannot keep reselling crap that is why many games fail, now sadly allot of mmorpgs do to much at once, and make the game unappealing in the end, if they would just focus on a good launch make it as unique as they can and make it more unique later that would work out quite well.

Originally posted by Ramonski7

You either like mmos or don't

The wisdom in this statement is in its simplicity.

Blizzard continues to update and intergrate the entire genre. I'm sure the developers are all thinking "Let's not do a WoW clone." but as they go through the genre, you kind of have to.

DDO isn't so WoW-like.

City of Heroes is pretty unique.

WURM & EVE exists.

These games exist outside of WoW's direction, go play them. Bounce around. It's just how the market is now a days.

 ignorant

 

kids who started in wow

 

We really need to let go to the concept that wow is played exclusively by kids...

edit: let me clarify. when you're insulting a few million people and 1% of them decides "I'll show you buddy. rating all 1s and 0s in your game" then you turn whatever you're playing on a 1v1 with WoW. And you cant win that one. WoW is stable.

 

So stop insulting WoW population if you want it to stop killing your games.

You need to check out Guild Wars 2, SWTOR, DCUO.

Tera and Rift just wana be sisters of WoW, so I wouldn't recomend them.

Originally posted by nomss

You need to check out Guild Wars 2, SWTOR, DCUO.

Tera and Rift just wana be sisters of WoW, so I wouldn't recomend them.

 I'd say SWTOR is the closest thing to WoW out of everything listed here. The developers multiple times have commented how the system is "similar to WoW" or "exactly like WoW". WoW in space, except Star Wars not Starcraft

Originally posted by Benthon

Originally posted by nomss

You need to check out Guild Wars 2, SWTOR, DCUO.

Tera and Rift just wana be sisters of WoW, so I wouldn't recomend them.

 I'd say SWTOR is the closest thing to WoW out of everything listed here. The developers multiple times have commented how the system is "similar to WoW" or "exactly like WoW". WoW in space, except Star Wars not Starcraft

Could you please link to these quotes?

Originally posted by Ltldogg

Originally posted by Benthon

Originally posted by nomss

You need to check out Guild Wars 2, SWTOR, DCUO.

Tera and Rift just wana be sisters of WoW, so I wouldn't recomend them.

 I'd say SWTOR is the closest thing to WoW out of everything listed here. The developers multiple times have commented how the system is "similar to WoW" or "exactly like WoW". WoW in space, except Star Wars not Starcraft

Could you please link to these quotes?

http://massively.joystiq.com/2010/06/15/massivelys-exclusive-swtor-interview-starships-pvp-and-craft/

Quotes from Rich Vogel, the executive producer for Star Wars: The Old Republic

Now with the PvP War Zones, they are going to be instanced as well?

The PvP War Zones are very similar to what you see in WAR and WoW

Will there be questing with small groups?

You'll be adventuring. You'll be adventuring with a party, absolutely.

Would it be required?

No, it's not required, but like anything you get better rewards. But it's not required. You can play our games single-player, like you can with WoW. The issue is we like to encourage people to group, and we'll have a lot of mechanics in our game that will actually do that.

Raids were mentioned today, which will be high-end content. I know you can't talk too much about raids. Will they be integral to the storyline of the game? Will players find themselves being lead to them? Or will they be more stand-alone, you-can-do-them-if-you-wish?

You can do them if you wish. That's the way they're designed. In WoW you have your raids and they are scaled on basically what you're fighting, right? We will have areas like that in our game, scalable to different sized groups. Again, we are not forgetting the MMO. We are not Massively Multiplayer Single Player Game. That is not what we want. We have a lot of good mechanics to promote grouping, socializing, and we have crafting in our game, yes.

What does crafting entail? Is there going to be a lot of crafting, or is it going to be very focused?

The big thing about crafting is that it will support combat in our game and it is very important. We haven't talked much about crafting, but we will in the future. People will be pleased with what we are coming up with for crafting. I think very pleased actually. It will not be to the extent of some of the games out there, like [Star Wars] Galaxies. It will be very similar to what WoW has. But it has some really cool twists that WoW doesn't have that I think people will like.

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Originally posted by Ltldogg

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Originally posted by Benthon

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Originally posted by nomss
You need to check out Guild Wars 2, SWTOR, DCUO.
Tera and Rift just wana be sisters of WoW, so I wouldn't recomend them.

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 I'd say SWTOR is the closest thing to WoW out of everything listed here. The developers multiple times have commented how the system is "similar to WoW" or "exactly like WoW". WoW in space, except Star Wars not Starcraft

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Could you please link to these quotes?

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 I was beated. :\

Originally posted by Slipscreen

Let me preface by saying i think WoW is a very well done game.

 

My problem is not with WoW its with the rest of these so called developers out there that take WoW and just add a little twist here or there.

Hey lets take WOW and have a bit more focus on RVR

hey lets take WoW and add a more open class system

Hey lets take WOW and give it star wars skins

hey lets take WoW and set it in norrath

Hey lets take WoW and give them guns

Hey lets take WoW and but set it in a comic book

 

 

we get it WoW is a big moneymaker, they are the largest MMO out there but that doesn't mean their way is the ONLY way so you have to copy it directly.

 

I am done with this genre till some AAA company pulls their heads from their rear and realizes that if people wanted to play WoW they will just play WoW, we need some originality.

we would have got your message even if you only had said, WoW is perfect and all other mmorpg are wow clones.....

man, it is true that there are wow clones out there, many, but you are talking like if every single mmorpg out there is a wow clone with a twist.... keep in mind that wow was not the first mmorpg ever made. If there is gonna be a wow clone that is completely fine as long as it is well made and fun to play and of course F2P wich is the purpose of wow clones, to bring a close experience of wow to the players who cant afford to pay for wow plus the ones who rather microtransactions and non-sub game... but thats only with the wow clones, Most of the mmorpgs out there are NOT wow clones..... so your post only fit in a few mmorpgs that cloned wow where you can sense the epic fail of a game right away (thats only a few of them).

PS: if u are waiting for a AAA game as u said, be patient until GW2 comes out.

Originally posted by theartist

Originally posted by Ramonski7

You either like mmos or don't

The wisdom in this statement is in its simplicity.

Blizzard continues to update and intergrate the entire genre. I'm sure the developers are all thinking "Let's not do a WoW clone." but as they go through the genre, you kind of have to.

DDO isn't so WoW-like.

City of Heroes is pretty unique.

WURM & EVE exists.

These games exist outside of WoW's direction, go play them. Bounce around. It's just how the market is now a days.

agree with this,  the problem is that people think an mmorpg is a wow clone because they do the same thing as wow such as, crafting, questing killing mobs, gathering items, pvp, factions pvp (some of them) variety of classes (where most of them are the same as wow) like mage, summoner, rogue, warrior, knight/paladin, ranger/hunter.... races that include elves.... all that stuff is typical in mmorpgs, so that does not mean is a wow clone... so far the wow clones out there took some of the graphics and mechanics, thats it. most of the stuff out there belongs more to the fantasy genre thatn to just plain WoW. WoW didnt bring the fantasy genre to the world, WoW was made based on an existing fantasy genre which people seems to forget that and think its the opposite

How much more can the MMORPG offer us?  If we're looking to push the envelope... where does that 'push' come from?  And really, where does it push us to?

The FPS-MMO hybrid was supposedly 'next-gen'.  It's not.  It's just an MMORPG with a different combat system.  And...?

FPS games that now track 'achievements' and stats, allow for unlocks of weapons and equipment, etc.,.. Also, not an MMORPG, imho, but that's the FPS genre bleeding over into 'MMORPG' territory. 

Theme park vs sand-box?  Open world vs streamlined pathing? 

Are we looking for a different 'genre' or IP? 

How does the MMO move from the current space to somewhere new?  Somewhere beyond WoW?

Some people think it's by blending in Facebook/Twitter/MySpace with MMORPG's.... those people should be punched in the jejunum.  Honestly... do I really want to be 'friends' and connected IRL with the arsehats from tradechat?  No... I really don't. 

Personally, I think customizable content... personalized content... adaptable content is what we need.  But that's just me.  All of these games tell us 'we are the champion'... 'the chosen one'... the game promises to tell 'your story'.  Okay... then let US tell 'our story'.  That's what I want to see.