Originally posted by Yuui

 

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Originally posted by toddze
Funcom, you need to give Erling Ellingsen a raise. He is doing a hell of a job fooling these people AGAIN. Even so soon after AoC launched, he can still do it. 

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The only peson who needs to get a raise is Ragnar Tornquist.

AFter delivering the WIN of Longest Journey and the WIN of Dreamfall chapters, he is going to deliver the WIN in mmo form - The Secret World(after all this man was behind many innovations in Anarchy Online, so its assuring that TSW won't fail).

Even better yet, Funcom should just focus all the budged available into Ragnar's projects.

If anything I see AoC as a quick cash grab plan in order to finance their next big project, TSW.

Of course Aoc is getting fixed and currently became into an awesome game, but I never saw AoC as the focus of Funcom's marketing. It was just there, as a cash grab, as a test of engine for tsw, etc. It was there, while TSW was secretly being created ever since 2002.

So yes, I am quite sure that TSW, with Ragnar Tornquist at helm, will be the best mmorpg ever released.

Can I get some of those drugs your on? They sound like the best money can buy.

Whats TSW but just another money grub atempt for their next project? This is flawed logic due to your personal intrest in the concepts of a game, that will most likely never materialize. Ya maybe my logic is flawed too but  atleast their past supports my logic.

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Originally posted by Quale

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Originally posted by Dubhlaith

 

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Originally posted by Quale
* A prominent psychologist says that lowered expectations is the key to happiness. Now that Funcom has allready shown you that it's a company with the amoral capacity for swindle, do you think maybe you can take down your enthusiasm 10-15 notches?
 
* You say you can't wait. Very well, if you really can't wait, then you do something radical as a consequence. Like breaking into the FC HQ for the code or hibernate on opiates. If you're not gonna do anything special at all, you can and will wait.

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It sounds like you are just being rude for the sake of being rude. "I cannot wait" is a figure of speech and you damn well know it. People always get excited over games when the company releases PR tidbits this early in the cycle. Stop acting like an angry idiot.

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Wrong.
You're the one acting like an angry idiot. I never attacked anyone personally. You do and to top it off you forgot to take your brain for a spin first.
I offer something which may be the first step in a series of techniques that enables people not to respond to promises with the no questions asked format of a consumer automaton.
How did you contribute today?

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I told a jerk they were a jerk, and that makes me feel better. I am not trying to contribute anything, per se; the article for this thread does that. We are discussing it. People are excited, and they have every right to be. You are being rude in assuming that they are automatons because they are interested in a game. This is a forum for talking about games we like or are interested in. That is precisely what we are doing. You seem like someone who hates Funcom and is trying to cloak it in intellectual affectation. And you are taking common colloquial sayings and taking them literally to make a point that did not need to be made in the first place, and thus sound very much the fool.

More to the point, it is not just your "points" that are rude, though they are, it is your manner. "Do you think maybe you can take down your enthusiasm 10-15 notches?" That is a rude way of saying what you mean. Your little story about breaking into Funcom and saying "you can and will wait" is an equally rude way to stating your point. So you are rude not only because you are saying things that do not need to be said because you assume the people you are talking to are too stupid to think critically (which, can I say, that if they are too stupid to think about the game critically, they are not going to listen to you in any case), but you are doing it in a way that is rude itself.

I do not like rude people. You are a rude person. I tell you that I think you are rude and that I do not like you. It makes me feel better to tell jerks they are jerks. Because I am here to talk about games, not argue with trolls...or whatever you are.

I am none of those things. ^^ You are arguing against your own projection.

You are right in standing up, for yourself and to champion those whom you feel are being subjected to abuse.

I commend you for your motives, but you're barking up the wrong tree and in so doing you are becoming what you seek to confront.

Conclusion: Thread policing takes more than good intentions and you should now write a post arresting yourself for being abusive.

I will not respond to further posts from you regarding this matter as your derailment of the topic has gone more than far enough.

Originally posted by Baggs

[ Erling Ellingsen, Director of Communications for Funcom ]

[ Lead Production Designer, Ragnar Tornquist ]

 

Thanks, but no thanks.

 

Wake me up if it runs flawlessly on most computers like AION and also has as much content as AION does.

I used to hate Ncsoft's new "baby" but their newest patches (1.5.0.1+) made me change my mind completely on it.

Hrm, AION's amount of content is easily within reach. While I enjoy AION (pre-ordered collectors edition), it is *lacking* content, it certainly doesn't suffer from TOO MUCH lol. I feel for the Korean and Chinese players who had to suffer with the early versions. But I guess they tend to enjoy grinding much more than the western audience, so it might not be as bad as I would have thought for them.

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Originally posted by Baggs

[ Lead Production Designer, Ragnar Tornquist ]

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This alone makes this game win :)

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Originally posted by Baggs
Wake me up if it runs flawlessly on most computers like AION

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You were not in the chinese closed/open beta phases then, I assume? :)

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Originally posted by Baggs and also has as much content as AION does.

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Going by the pure fact that its developed by Ragnar Tornquist,I see no problem in content.

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Originally posted by Baggs
I used to hate Ncsoft's new "baby" but their newest patches (1.5.0.1+) made me change my mind completely on it.

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I'll take Funcom-occasionally-we-release-too-soon over NCSoft-we-don't-know-what-is-europe any time.

Every funcom game i've played has been worth the money I spent on them easily, not world-shatteringly good, but not a waste of time by any stretch - maybe I'm just lucky.

people need to whine less. AoC and AO were quality imo and I played AoC at launch, the key with launches is , don't rush, just relax and enjoy the funny bugs =p

As a games dev myself I have a lot more patience than the average consumer it seems, since I know how painful deadlines can be :)

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Looking forward to this on the edge of my seat, everything seems to be in place, no levels, no classes, contemporary with mythological / insidious themes. ALL CHECK, PLEASE TAKE AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO MAKE IT WORTHY, PLEASE!

I don't mind funcom, AoC was a decent game overall, it was just missing a few major components in the endgame such as working raids, city sieges and balance (gem stacking) which made everyone leave once they levelled up to a certain point.

I am keeping an eye on secret world because I will give anything that isn't generic fantasy a fair shot. As for the factions, I it will be interesting to see how it plays out, but I wouldn't mind some better sandbox features as in guilds make their own factions and choose where they want their HQ to be. Probably a hopeless dream at this point.

FuncoN?

No thx. Already got burnt once.  Tired of empty promises. :/

Originally posted by Yuui

 

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Originally posted by Baggs

[ Lead Production Designer, Ragnar Tornquist ]

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This alone makes this game win :)

I AGREE!  This, quite frankly, is the ONLY thing that would make me "forget" that FUNCOM's name is behind it as well. I'm interested in this game because of this man being lead production designer. However, my interest stems from my love of "The Longest Journey," and not necessarily AO. This guy.....can tell a story. I don't think lack of content will be a problem, nor will there be any lack for an engaging story.

 

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Originally posted by Baggs
Wake me up if it runs flawlessly on most computers like AION

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You were not in the chinese closed/open beta phases then, I assume? :)

 

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Originally posted by Baggs and also has as much content as AION does.

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Going by the pure fact that its developed by Ragnar Tornquist,I see no problem in content.

 

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Originally posted by Baggs
I used to hate Ncsoft's new "baby" but their newest patches (1.5.0.1+) made me change my mind completely on it.

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I'll take Funcom-occasionally-we-release-too-soon over NCSoft-we-don't-know-what-is-europe any time.

The other thing that delights me, at this point anyway, is that finally we will begin to have a few threads WITHOUT the words, "looks like just another WoW clone" in them.  This is the second game I have seen in the past week, that appears to be nothing....nothing at all....like WoW. And that is, at the very least, a LITTLE exciting!

I still play WoW (among other games), but I am interested in seeing the MMO genre expand beyond that. I don't want WoW to go away, I just want some developers to have the balls (and enough MONEY to be willing to GAMBLE)  to take chances to explore BEYOND the borders of that style.  CHOICES.  I want to be able to play WoW, but I also want to be able to login and play some MMO that is ENTIRELY unlike WoW.

let the beta testing begin!

With Funcom it can never be too early or too often!

I hope they don't fuck this one up. I really would like to play it.

The concept of this game looks pretty cool, and for once it seems that a game is learning from DAoC and putting three factions into their game. I must admit I got burned by AoC like pretty much everyone else, but if people look at the track records of MMO developers, then no games are going to be worth playing in the future.

The big question is how playable is this game. AoC looked awesome, but when duels become all about circlestrafing around your opponent, it falls fast. Add the poor zone design which lead to all kinds of accusations of spawncamping and unncessesary drama, and there are certainly issues Funcom needs to address.

All in all, the concept intrigues me, but time will tell if Funcom is able to live up to the hype.