"I have a high threshold for bad launches. "

 

LOL, then i commend you. I for one can't stand something that isn't at least mostly polished. I truely hope Funcom learns to listen to their community and logically approach problems. At this point I have seen no signs of this happening any time soon.

I will check up on TSW from time to time to see how its doing, but only for morbid curiosity.

 

Originally posted by Adalwulff

Originally posted by Dietaether

There are a lot of pissed off people everywhere, it doesn't mean they're the majority or correct for that matter. Case in point, Tea Party.

 

Really? I find it funny how liberals ignore the evidence directly in their faces, and then expect you to believe it too...LOL

Tell me then how the Tea Party has managed to vote in several of their members if they have no power or majority, or anything in common with Americans today? Even the incumbants are getting the boot....

Anyway, this is what forums are for, to speak your mind, and I agree with the OP, I'm done with Funcom.

Actually, it's looking to be likely that the tea party is going to end up allowing Democrats that would otherwise have stood no chance to get in instead of Republicans. 

And they haven't voted ANYONE in yet. But the Republicans are systematically taking over the tea party. If I were part of the Tea Party, I'd be far more afraid that Rebublicans sweep in and distort what it was the Tea Party meant to stand for in the first place.

And I like Anarchy Online back in the day. That's why I'd buy from Funcom.

Originally posted by Furiousbeard

"I have a high threshold for bad launches. "

 

LOL, then i commend you. I for one can't stand something that isn't at least mostly polished. I truely hope Funcom learns to listen to their community and logically approach problems. At this point I have seen no signs of this happening any time soon.

I will check up on TSW from time to time to see how its doing, but only for morbid curiosity.

 

polished and badly launched are not really the same thing. WoW had a bad launch but was very well polished; AoC, from what i hear, had a fairly good launch, but the lack of polish is what angered everyone, i.e. it was an incomplete game as opposed to simply a buggy game. I will take a bad launch over an unfinished game anyday. Other unfinished games would be pretty much anything touched by cryptic heh.

I'll be honest, the real reason I have faith in this game doing well has nothing to do with funcom's history or who is making the game or anything like that. I have faith because I took the time to start thinking like a businessman. If this game does well, it is the first of its genre and fills a much needed niche. If it fails, funcom WILL go bankrupt. they're pouring all of their money into it, and they know full well that it is their last chance to win over the crowd. They've already taken over ten years on its plot and universe, and nearly 8 on actual development. This will either be their magnum opus, of the most fantastic failure in the history of the genre. Personally, I wouldn't want to miss either :P

Originally posted by Demeel

I am sorry, but i do not understand why you would buy another game from a company that keeps failing and can't even finish the games they have out?

 

AoC was the biggest let down.. i paid 100 for the collectors edition and the game still today doesn't work......

 

And somehow this game has a hype meter of 8 something i mean no wonder game company's keep making crap unfinished games ppl still buy them....

 

Please wake up ..

 

Thank you

I too bought the collector's edition and while ultimately the game didn't hold any lasting appeal for me I didn't see it and don't see it as a complete disaster either at launch or now. The game does work and the beginning part of the game is very well crafted and enjoyable to play through. Funcom tried a number of innovations with AoC that just didn't win over many converts but the risk of trying something is at the risk of failing and there is a difference between a failure because of effort and one for lack of effort and Funcom put in some serious effort I feel.

Ultimately, I pick or choose what I want to play based only partially on the company and the concepts behind the product but also partly on the hope that it will be something awesome so I don't see that people trying another game from Funcom is anything foolish at all.

Please go back to sleep.

Thank you.

I will be playing the TSW based on the fact that 1) I like the concept and ideas of it and what I have seen so far.

2) AoC had a rocky start but Funcom has done a good job of fixing that and making it into a enjoyable game no matter what the subjective opinions of some who post here are over a 2 year old grievance. And 3) it is a totally different development team.To do any different would be like saying I wont play GW2 because I have a grudge against Aion.

I've never played a Funcom game before so no issues there. The setting of this one is very appealing to me, finally a "real life" mmorpg.

I'm really sick and tired of fantasy and the lack of audacity mmorpg developpers have been showing of late.

I will buy from Funcom because its just a GAME ffs. They don't sell drugs to under aged so i have no reason to boycott them. jeez some of you people take things way too seriously. Also, IMO AOC and Anarchy Online (my first MMO) both are awesome games.

Combo skipping was an exploit that affected AOC pvp mechanics since launch...

To this day, they have not managed to fix it..

I intend to get The Secret World from Funcom mostly because it's not Fantasy nor some silly wacked out Futuristic game.

It's one of those games that deals with what we've all heard and know about myths, legends, and conspiracies.

The problem with the AOC launch wasn't just that it was buggy.  It was how much the developers lied to the beta testers and manipulated things to hide the fact that they clearly knew the game wasn't ready

1.  The media was limited to being able to play the first 20 levels.  After release, it was clear that the level of polish to the first 20 levels was far superiour to the rest of the game.  They put all their effort into that one small section of the game that the media was allowed to play.

2.  Open beta testers (those allowed to talk about the game) were similarly limited to those first 20 levels, which meant that everything they were saying about polish was exaggerated.

3. Close beta testers (of which I was one)... we were allowed to play most of the game.  We were ASSURED.. on many many occasions that another patch was coming the day before launch that would bring up the quality and polish of the game from level 20+.  One dev actually said that the 'polish update' would make levels 20-40 actually more polished than Tortage.  This of course was a lie, since to this date there is still a drastic drop-off in quality after lvl 20.  We were also repeatedly reminded that we were only allowed to talk about the first 20 levels.   We were also told that the pvp system was finished, but it wouldn't be implemented on the beta servers, only activitated once the game went live.  Of course, there never was a pvp system.  Only after the game launched did they even begin working on it.  It took 2 years after launch for the pvp system to actually be implemented (and required you to purchase an expansion).

The problem isn't that AOC was buggy and unpolished.  The problem is the lengths the developers went to lie to player (expecially beta testers) shortly before launch.

I'm all for giving people a second chance (or in funcom's case a third chance).  But the fact is that nobody should purchase the game based on they hype coming from the devs, or comments from a limited beta version.  Wait until the game is launched and judge it based on what players with full access and with the ability to actually talk about the game say.

I just won't be buying a funcom game until 3+ months after release.

I'll definitely be gunning for the beta of TSW,to see if its truly worth my money....

Funcom is still on my shady list.

Going to pre-order because for me TSW has the best concept of all MMO's. I'm sick of elves and gandalfs and don't expect much from games like SW:TOR either. Also I tried AoC again after a year, rolled a new toon and the game is much better than I remembered. 

the game has an actually interesting concept, no more LEVELS! Skill based advancement like darkfall. I'm interested but like anyone whos smart... will beta test even if it means 5$ down payment at Gamestop to get a key.

Originally posted by Timukas

Going to pre-order because for me TSW has the best concept of all MMO's. I'm sick of elves and gandalfs and don't expect much from games like SW:TOR either. Also I tried AoC again after a year, rolled a new toon and the game is much better than I remembered. 

 Becuase thats about how long it took them to get that game on its feet...a year.

The up an coming pvp patch will make mini games totally random...a new mini game match and a 'sound' when you get the access to the mini game....great pvp update by FC but almost 2 years too late...will i buy another fc game, never....never....never. I dont care about the concept as the concept of AoC was awesome and even the combat system is the best but come on...anyone who played aoc will not this company has no idea about pvp....at all and their new direction in pve is total grind (look at aoc expansion it was just a pure grind fest requiring hours and hours of exploiting or months and months of grinding).

Funcom in my opinion are just behind Cryptic in my list of dubious mmo companys.

Never again will i buy a product from then without doing some reseach on the game in question.

They will have to prove to me first that there game is worth buying, also they need to deal with people who use exploits in there games which in AoC they never did.

Originally posted by sibs4455

 

Never again will i buy a product from then without doing some reseach on the game in question.

 

Uh, thats kind of something you should do for games from ANY company, especially mmos.

Originally posted by warmaster670

Originally posted by sibs4455

 

Never again will i buy a product from then without doing some reseach on the game in question.

 

Uh, thats kind of something you should do for games from ANY company, especially mmos.

 I dissagree Warmaster670, i have browsed Steam many times and bought games on impulse, also many of these games became firm favourites of mine. 

But

I was taken in by the lies from Funcom with AoC also i saw first hand the exploits that people used in the early life of the game, there were many posts on there forums about the exploits but nothing was ever done.

Originally posted by sibs4455

Originally posted by warmaster670

Originally posted by sibs4455

 

Never again will i buy a product from then without doing some reseach on the game in question.

 

Uh, thats kind of something you should do for games from ANY company, especially mmos.

 I dissagree Warmaster670, i have browsed Steam many times and bought games on impulse, also many of these games became firm favourites of mine. 

But

I was taken in by the lies from Funcom with AoC also i saw first hand the exploits that people used in the early life of the game, there were many posts on there forums about the exploits but nothing was ever done.

its your money, if you want to guess if you like the game or not is up to you, but then don't come crying you are deceived by buying a crappy game.