The updated world isn't in 4.0.1 and is actually just on the Beta still. 4.0.3 is what will bring the world changes.

Originally posted by Leviathonlx

The updated world isn't in 4.0.1 and is actually just on the Beta still. 4.0.3 is what will bring the world changes.

 

 Yeah this article confused the hell out of me since there's no mention at all of any kind of changes to Barrens in 4.0.1. I don't know if the author was talking about Barrens from a beta he's (or she's) in or if he basically just ran through the same damn Barrens that's always been there... I love mmorpg.com as a news source but their editorial staff could use some help.

Originally posted by Clocksimus

By mentioning GS the article lost all credibility.  I know I tend to be overly harsh about things but GS is simply one of the worse addons to hav ever been made and sadly became a standard.

GS doesn't tell Bob the Tank how to switch aggro and doesn't make Jill the Rogue understand what aggro is (I know aggro control has been long dead but still.)

From what i hear they are changing that in cataclysm,and going back to more of Classic WoW with CC/aggro and such.

Originally posted by EricDanie

You folks are clearly not playing WoW. In order to do anything you must show your GS, because, you know, that is the absolute indicator of skill and knowledge.

GS is the reason why I left the game 'u need betteh gearzscore to join'.. I don't know who invented GS but it took the fun out of wow, and also the chucknorris-yourmum-anal-community... it's just terrible. pitty cause the game itself is overall nice.

a game is supposed to be fun f°ck gearscore!

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Stating your gearscore gives anyone with at least a passing knowledge of gearscore an idea of how far you've progressed in game with said character with out listing bosses killed and achievments earned.  In short, he gave us one line of text as opposed to an elongated list.

It's hillarious seeing peoples panties get wedgied at the first mention of gs.

Originally posted by kingtommyboy

Originally posted by EricDanie

You folks are clearly not playing WoW. In order to do anything you must show your GS, because, you know, that is the absolute indicator of skill and knowledge.

 

GS is the reason why I left the game 'u need betteh gearzscore to join'.. I don't know who invented GS but it took the fun out of wow, and also the chucknorris-yourmum-anal-community... it's just terrible. pitty cause the game itself is overall nice.

a game is supposed to be fun f°ck gearscore!

YEP!

I was not around when GS got Big/required (IE I bought WOTLK at release).But When a buddy of mine (who is currently playing) told me all about GS and that it was being used as a Gating mechanic(so to speak) to get into instances I just shook my head and said "if I wanted to APPLY for somethin based on my stats,Id go play a professional sport". Dont get me wrong I KNOW you need Good Gear/Decent skill to succed at higher level dungeons in an MMO. You mite as well start playing math games lol.

The Barrens has always had clustered quests, that you could do as you travelled around areas within the zone. The only difference, recently, is that you've had Blizzard's built-in quest helper with its little indicator zones to help you do them in the groups they were provided. That they've tweaked the drop rates and a few quests, a little bit, really doesn't change the zone, at all: it's still huge, dull and filled with idiots.

The "quest about the dead orc" (Mankrik's wife) is a lore quest and is an introduction to the dangers in the southern parts of The Barrens. Oh, and you can do that one while you're doing the various raptor quests, in the area (amongst others, like heading to Camp Taurajo), so it's not at all out of the way unless you're completely disorganised, clueless, not paying attention to your quest helper or a mixture of all the above.

And lastly, Stonetalon is a significantly worse area when it comes to quest-spread, Sun Rock Retreat aside, with quest-givers being thrown all the way from the Barrens' zone-line, to little pockets all over place, including in the goblin area with one little NPC hidden up in the south hills, for example, with no breadcrumb quest to tell you he's there. That you prefer it to The Barrens - and for the reasons given - I have to say that what little credibility you had left after the GearScore comment is now solidly non-existant.

Y'know... the entire article makes me wonder if you were, actually, quite serious about the pride in your GearScore; which would sum your score, the article and GearScore itself up quite nicely: they're all tripe.

Originally posted by shakermaker0

I think he was just trying to show that he knows the game and has experience - rather than showing off or something.

Considering 5.7k GS is rather average at this point I would agree with you.

He was only trying to show that he has experience not trying to brag or anything, to those who say he lost credibilty, you are overly sensitive, please grow a thicker skin and don't over react to everything in life.

I like the way Gearscore works as it is an instant way to get a general sense of how far a player has progressed with their character. It isn't black and white though and isn't usually used that way by most people I know. But as a quick guide, it's great.

However, I wish Blizzard would break it so that the whines about it can end. I'm am far more tired of the whines than I am attached to the system.

Originally posted by colddog04

I like the way Gearscore works as it is an instant way to get a general sense of how far a player has progressed with their character. It isn't black and white though and isn't usually used that way by most people I know. But as a quick guide, it's great.

 

However, I wish Blizzard would break it so that the whines about it can end. I'm am far more tired of the whines than I am attached to the system.

IF you have played WoW a decent amount of time you really DONT need GS to get a general sense of how far a player has progressed. GS was not needed pre-bc,during bc. I think the idea of the GS was cool ,but than the community took it to far. And honestly most people are not whining about the GS system as most reasons are RESonable,whining would instatute unresonable reasons they dont like the GS system..like I dont like the GS system cause I suck at math,as an example.

Chuck Norris created teh new barrens

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Barrens was my home stomping grounds when I first rolled a Druid during Vanilla.

I know the world needs new content, but I'm sorry to see it go.

Originally posted by zaylin

Originally posted by colddog04

I like the way Gearscore works as it is an instant way to get a general sense of how far a player has progressed with their character. It isn't black and white though and isn't usually used that way by most people I know. But as a quick guide, it's great.

 

However, I wish Blizzard would break it so that the whines about it can end. I'm am far more tired of the whines than I am attached to the system.

IF you have played WoW a decent amount of time you really DONT need GS to get a general sense of how far a player has progressed. GS was not needed pre-bc,during bc. I think the idea of the GS was cool ,but than the community took it to far. And honestly most people are not whining about the GS system as most reasons are RESonable,whining would instatute unresonable reasons they dont like the GS system..like I dont like the GS system cause I suck at math,as an example.

You do if he's not standing next to you.

And I never said you NEED it. I said I like it for a quick check.

And I AM insinuating that they are being unreasonable.

Mentioning achievements, especially level and gear, usually kills the credibility of the article instead of sustaining it... 

Why are you folks harping back and forth about the gear score? Seriously?  It's just ironic to me that you are all jumping all over the author about that while completely overlooking the fact that the Shattering hasn't even happened yet and so what we have in the Barrens right now really can't be called the "new Barrens" at all.

Even a cursory examination of the most recent patch notes (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/patch4p01.html) show that 4.0.1 didn't do anything with the Barrens quests (or any other quests) while the Under Development page (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/) lists the still to come 4.0.3 as being the patch that will change everything.

Yes, Mr. Fuller has shown he really doesn't know what he's talking about at this point.  But the gear score has nothing to do with that.

I have a 6k GS and a kingslayer title. Does that mean I'm more qualified to do a writeup on the new barrens even though I havent even logged on in about 2 or 3 months?

Though I'm pretty sure you need a GS of over 9000 to justify talking about a lvl 10 to 20ish zone.

Originally posted by aurick

Why are you folks harping back and forth about the gear score? Seriously?  It's just ironic to me that you are all jumping all over the author about that while completely overlooking the fact that the Shattering hasn't even happened yet and so what we have in the Barrens right now really can't be called the "new Barrens" at all.

 

Even a cursory examination of the most recent patch notes (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/patch4p01.html) show that 4.0.1 didn't do anything with the Barrens quests (or any other quests) while the Under Development page (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/) lists the still to come 4.0.3 as being the patch that will change everything.

 

Yes, Mr. Fuller has shown he really doesn't know what he's talking about at this point.  But the gear score has nothing to do with that.

 But he has a 5700gs. That shows his credability. You linking facts but not stateing your GS means nothing.

What do you recommend he calls it? Barrens 1.5? 

I was going to post something negative about GS and how it changed the game into pure number crunching instead of style, knowledge, experience, or ability (I'm jaded... I once, and my toon was max level, got kicked out of an easy holiday boss group because my GS was too low... and the person who kicked me? Not even in high school yet... thats when I truly saw how far the game had fallen...)... but theres not much to say about it that hasn't already been said by posters above me. Well done, community. I'm not sure why they even attempt to put a storyline into WoW anymore... Why tell us about the new Barrens if its just a small stepping stone to more phat lootz? Does it  make getting gear easier so that GS can be raised and raised and raised and.... pointless, mindless drivel...  

GearScore was meant and existed way before the Badge farming and Random Dungeons Existed, It was a "ok" way to check your own status on how well you were doing in relation to raids.

It got popular, and Retards started using it as the inly Medium to invite others.

I rarely have that problem for the simple fact that i put SOME effort in finding a Guild to raid or do dungeons with. You guys cry of Pugs Kicking you.. Pugs fail more than less to begin with. Join a decent guild and have fun with the same people over and again.. Then GS wont matter there.