Originally posted by erictlewis

Well I have to say this.  I had canceled my pre-order of STO becasuethe beta was so bad.  I said that I would come back in six months and give it a try.

I had a blast doing some of the missions. Like the tribble mission, the guardian of forever.  There was some Star Trek lore and I enjoyed it for what it was.

So I been playing the past month on and off.  This is what I saw.  

(1) Took 3 weeks to get to the top rank of VA Vice Admiral

(2) After you reach vice admiral whats left to do

     (A) Roll an alt another type of toon or Klingon

     (B) Run dailies to get emblems to buy different things

(3) Social interaction. This is the part of the game that needs tons of help.  I found the tools to be hard to use.  Such as bringing up the fleet window, looking through a log of events, and the bank log going back only 2 days.

(4) Ground missions, they are still bad.  It is like your in a holodeck with walls. Ground mission are the true downfall of this game.  You get NPC's stuck your crew stuck and I have had to file several tickets because things get stuck and your quest does not update.

(5) The cryptic store.  Ahem.  Yes well even I spent a couple of dollars there.  I wanted the dreadnought. Oh by the way it is not worth the cash for it, just wait till VA and get a star cruiser you will be much more happier.

I have to rank the game 6/10.  The reason is it is fun to play until you run out of things to do. The problem is that happens very quickly and less than a month. I am gong to keep my sub running another month just to see what if anything they do. You have to wonder what they are going to do next.  The main problem is the level cap at this point.  There is not much you can do, now that you have Vice Admiral, that after Rear Admiral.  I guess you could go Ambassador but they already have that rank for diplomatic missions.  So your really out of luck with the ranks, and level cap.

The weekly missions were ok and fun but took less than 4 hours each to run.

 Ooooooohhhhh , now you did it, prepare to incur the wrath of the CDF. They claim that there is more then a months worth of content and only hardcore players run out of content. It's interesting that 6 months after release it still only takes less then a month to complete the game.

Originally posted by AG-Vuk

Originally posted by erictlewis

Well I have to say this.  I had canceled my pre-order of STO becasuethe beta was so bad.  I said that I would come back in six months and give it a try.

I had a blast doing some of the missions. Like the tribble mission, the guardian of forever.  There was some Star Trek lore and I enjoyed it for what it was.

So I been playing the past month on and off.  This is what I saw.  

(1) Took 3 weeks to get to the top rank of VA Vice Admiral

(2) After you reach vice admiral whats left to do

     (A) Roll an alt another type of toon or Klingon

     (B) Run dailies to get emblems to buy different things

(3) Social interaction. This is the part of the game that needs tons of help.  I found the tools to be hard to use.  Such as bringing up the fleet window, looking through a log of events, and the bank log going back only 2 days.

(4) Ground missions, they are still bad.  It is like your in a holodeck with walls. Ground mission are the true downfall of this game.  You get NPC's stuck your crew stuck and I have had to file several tickets because things get stuck and your quest does not update.

(5) The cryptic store.  Ahem.  Yes well even I spent a couple of dollars there.  I wanted the dreadnought. Oh by the way it is not worth the cash for it, just wait till VA and get a star cruiser you will be much more happier.

I have to rank the game 6/10.  The reason is it is fun to play until you run out of things to do. The problem is that happens very quickly and less than a month. I am gong to keep my sub running another month just to see what if anything they do. You have to wonder what they are going to do next.  The main problem is the level cap at this point.  There is not much you can do, now that you have Vice Admiral, that after Rear Admiral.  I guess you could go Ambassador but they already have that rank for diplomatic missions.  So your really out of luck with the ranks, and level cap.

The weekly missions were ok and fun but took less than 4 hours each to run.

 Ooooooohhhhh , now you did it, prepare to incur the wrath of the CDF. They claim that there is more then a months worth of content and only hardcore players run out of content. It's interesting that 6 months after release it still only takes less then a month to complete the game.

 Rofl I say.  I had not even been playing it full time.I put in 3 or 4 hours a day, then trotted back off to eq2.  Some days I did nto play at all.  Anybody who takes more than a month to complete the content has to only be playing very limited number of hours per week.

Now there is content left, if you like pvp and or daily mission.  And well the breen series was great. You waited each week to do it, then in a matter of hours you were done with that weeks mission.

who knows what they are going to come up with,  the main thing is now there kind of very level capped. 

Its good that you have fun in sto. Sto is the bigest cash grab I have ever seen in my 10 years of playing online,

Originally posted by saya1965

Its good that you have fun in sto. Sto is the bigest cash grab I have ever seen in my 10 years of playing online,

 I had fun until it became booring repetition, and your right cash grab dont even cover the words I would like to use about it.

This thread came up in the recently posted section.  As such I feel compelled to say I will never play this abomination of a Star Trek game.  Offer rejected.

Originally posted by erictlewis

Originally posted by saya1965

Its good that you have fun in sto. Sto is the bigest cash grab I have ever seen in my 10 years of playing online,

 I had fun until it became booring repetition, and your right cash grab dont even cover the words I would like to use about it.

And let me guess, it took about a month?

Originally posted by erictlewis

Originally posted by saya1965

Its good that you have fun in sto. Sto is the bigest cash grab I have ever seen in my 10 years of playing online,

 I had fun until it became booring repetition, and your right cash grab dont even cover the words I would like to use about it.

Agreed guys. Both of these are my top 2 issues as well.

The boring and repetitious missions. UGH! If I ever do one more "daily" I'll stab myself with a shovel. I'm certain the game has improved since Season 2's release, and truthfully, my sub is still active (year)...but I can't even justify updating the game to myself.

I convinced myself for weeks that the "daily" missions were "fun" and that Cryptic was listening...but they missed deadline after deadline with their "repeatable missions" due to insisting it be tied in to the "sidekicking" feature. Meanwhile, people like me sat there with ONE f'ing mission to do. ONE!!!

The C-Store being their top priority for a full month while I ran the same daily mission will never be forgotten. They had time to create plenty of items for them to sell in the c-store, but they didn't have the time to activate even ONE additional mission for me.

As much as I wanted this to be the game I loved, it became a game that disgusts me. Sloppy, shallow cash grab.

Originally posted by erictlewis

 Rofl I say.  I had not even been playing it full time.I put in 3 or 4 hours a day, then trotted back off to eq2.  Some days I did nto play at all.  Anybody who takes more than a month to complete the content has to only be playing very limited number of hours per week.

 According the STO faithful, playing 3-4 hours a day makes you one of the 'hardcore' players. To be considered an 'average' player by them (despite the fact that you fall in the lower range of the real MMO average player), you need to only play two hours or less per session.

Originally posted by Zap-Robo

So, as an alternative viewpoint to the "Don't play" thread I'm going to take the other viewpoint (and hope some others will join me) to put across why you might want to play STO. I know I do - I'm a Lifetime Subscriber and still enjoying the game!

Please, if you want to say why people shouldn't play the game, go do it over in the other thread.

So, on we go...

1. It's Star Trek - If you're a Trek fan, you'll find familiar races, familiar ships and audio from your fave Star Trek show here in Star Trek Online. Walk around DS9, hear the whoosh of the turbolift doors on your starship, the blast of phasers and the pulse of photon torpedoes being fired!
2. It's Two Games in One - A game of two halves. Not only do you have the space combat flying around in your ship but you also get to go on away missions and run around battling foes, or resolving conflict without bloodshed.
3. Design a Starship - You get to design your own starship/warbird. Choose from a selection of parts, colours and designs. Go with an iconic starship class, or make something new.
4. Cryptic Customisation - Cryptic games are almost unsuppassed for character customisation (see City of Heroes, Champions Online). Be a previously unknown Alien race and let your creativity flow!
5. Expanding World - Level cap has already been raised, new missions have been and are being added (as well as entirely new mission types) and we're only six months in

At the end of the day, on this forum there are some of us posting trial keys. Try the game out and see if you like it - if you do buy a boxed copy/digital key and stick around for a bit and see if you like it longterm!

 

Anyoe else care to add their good points?

 I am playing and really enjoying STO , Kudos to you for making this thread , I think it needs something to counter some of negativity about this game.

My Pro's :

The Space combat is a lot of fun and can become extremely addictive.

The Customization for Ships and characters is superb.

The game has really nice community.

There are always alot of people playing and finding groups is very easy.

The Graphics look great especially in space combat ( tho I do concede the ground combat need some TLC )

The game has new Dev's that are actually improving the game.

Great  Star Treksound effects .

Some good opportunity for Role Players is being added to the game.

My Con's:

The game admittedly is not for everyone and is quite casual in its approach.

Ground combat still need work although it has improved massivley since launch.

Cryptic really do have appalling customer service, ( tho I do believe they are starting to improve )

Some missions can seem a little repetive , but to fair nearly every Mmo on the market can have repetitive elements.

Game needs more content , especially Klingon stuff and higher level.

No First person Bridge View sucks.

Space Travel should have been implemented better.

Planet Exploration is sadly missing.

C Store is just wrong Imo.

So as you can see I like the game quite alot , tho I'll admit I am a huge Star Trek Fan, but I can also see that it has quite a few bad points too .

..... right I'm off to Upgrade my Phaser banks so I can stand a chance against that Pesky Gorn Battle Cruiser in the Risa Sector !!  :p

Hmm.. how about just NO...  personally. this game just isnt star trek, graphically, it may look like startrek, but, for anyone who has even watched a single episode of the program, you'd have a hard time identifying this game from it, and anyone who grew up with star trek and has watched just about every episode of  ST:NG, Enterprise, Voyager.. well.. youd just end up crying in your beer..

or to put it another way;

it may look like a Duck, but it doesnt walk like a Duck and it can't Quack..

any aspersions that might indicate it is in fact a LAME DUCK.. are entirely intentional.

Originally posted by TUX426

The boring and repetitious missions. UGH! If I ever do one more "daily" I'll stab myself with a shovel. I'm certain the game has improved since Season 2's release, and truthfully, my sub is still active (year)...but I can't even justify updating the game to myself.

Agreed, daily quests/missions/whatever are the most boring thing anyone ever invented for a MMO. I would like to meet the guy who got the idea originally and punch him in the face, you really have to look after a worse kind of grind.

As for STO Cryptic needs to patch in a lot more content, they made the game in a short time and like many other MMOs do you run out of things too fast because of that. AoC have the same problem, too little content forcing you to grind when you played through it. And WAR..

MMO devs need to know that a game needs a certain amount of content to keep the players subbing, if you can't make enough you should make a B2P CORPG instead with no monthly fees.

What Cryptic did was make a game in about two years with only two months at the most content, even now going on one year after release they only added about maybe another month worth on content.  As I see it, if they done what the majority of decent companies do and take four or five years to develope and release the game, they would have five or six months content and that would be about right for a release.

No point in anyone wasting money on this POS , it's going F2P . The only question now is how far behind Champions is it.

http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/10/26/champions-online-goes-free-to-play.aspx

I must say one thing and that is tht my playing time has been cut down to about 1 hour a week and that is only to do the weekly missions.  This game has become so tedious that I lost interest half way thru the Defari missions and just logged out and played Civilazation.