Wouldn't comparing POTBS to STO be a more better match? given how similar they are, but how vastly superior POTBS is.

EVE Online is a bit too hardcore and niche, STO is more mass market, its an unfair comparisson. You should compare POTBS to STO, its a more logical choice, but POTBS would win out, its combat system is better, its land battles are actually interesting, their customization options are just as good and the game isn't nearly as instanced as STO is.

EVE Online has also had so many extra years of development, so its unfair.

I'v never been able to get into eve online. I think it's a good game, but it's not for me at all. I'd rather play STO (not that I do).

STO wins for me...

Originally posted by Kyleran

This entire series of articles are in fact flame bait and meant to stir up controversy.

Apparently so. It's a shame. Clearly this site is now nothing more than a joke of a "news" source, intent on selling advertising dollars. (If it had any integrity before anyways)

I've been coming here for the better part of almost seven years, hoping the site would at least gain some legitimacy. I guess the joke's on me.

Ah well, I guess the site will go on pretending like it's articles full of bad writing are more than just a pissing contest to start flame wars, while the rest of the industry pats them on the head and gives them a gold star for effort, trying to hide their snickering. Perhaps one day they'll realize why actual journalism sites get the big bucks.

OK, Ok. As writer of this series, I take on your criticisms and in later articles will strive to remedy the negatives. As I point out time and time again, these are my opinions, try as I might, I am going to always be subjective- such is being human. Bias is something that nobody can hide, however, this is something I will try to minimize in future.

In regards to your comments that the website is trying to stir up some sort of inter-mmo war. Come on buddy, these articles are meant to be fun and entertaining. They are not the last word in the quality of the game neither or they meant to be pieces of journalistic art. Sure there is an element of debate to them but come on, I'm trying to entertain people on this website first and foremost. Give me a break.

Also, Eve Online versus Star Trek Online- is it a fair comparison? I am going to say yes, as both share a common genre element. Sure, it's sand box versus theme park but on the general idea that these are the foremost representations of Space MMORPGs, I think it fair to consider these worthy of the comparison.

Originally posted by shakermaker0

 

Also, Eve Online versus Star Trek Online- is it a fair comparison? I am going to say yes, as both share a common genre element. Sure, it's sand box versus theme park but on the general idea that these are the foremost representations of Space MMORPGs, I think it fair to consider these worthy of the comparison.

lol.... no it isn't a fair comparison. Not just because it's sandbox vs. themepark though. The reason it isn't a fair comparison is that this just aren't 2 balanced opponents. There was never any question on anyones minds who would be the victor, even the STO fans know that EvE is light years beyond what STO could ever hope to be. You compared basically a name brand item to an off brand item thats been recalled and asked which is better. You just took something that everyone else already knows, wrote up an article on it and said "in your opinion". 

I mean come on, you have to see how the article is akin to things as asinine as what I'm writing below. 

"In my opinion the world is round, here is an article of mine discussing both theories written in 2010"

"In my opinion Mike Tyson could knock out your average 10 year old boy if they were to fight him, here is why"

"In my opinion I think diet and exercise is better than taking fen-phen" 

lol... 

If anything STO should have been compared to SWG as both are space based plus both have ground combat avatars. In the end though STO would have still lost, even though it tries hard to be the best at what it tried to be.

Kinda knew STO was a dead end when i reached borg space twice within the first week with two characters while cryptic was still desperately trying to impliment lvl40-50 content & raids.

Originally posted by Methos12

Couldn't wait for TOR, huh? Also, that was kinda... unfair match-up.

Lol First thing that crossed my mind too.

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Originally posted by shakermaker0
OK, Ok. As writer of this series, I take on your criticisms and in later articles will strive to remedy the negatives. As I point out time and time again, these are my opinions, try as I might, I am going to always be subjective- such is being human. Bias is something that nobody can hide, however, this is something I will try to minimize in future.
In regards to your comments that the website is trying to stir up some sort of inter-mmo war. Come on buddy, these articles are meant to be fun and entertaining. They are not the last word in the quality of the game neither or they meant to be pieces of journalistic art. Sure there is an element of debate to them but come on, I'm trying to entertain people on this website first and foremost. Give me a break.
Also, Eve Online versus Star Trek Online- is it a fair comparison? I am going to say yes, as both share a common genre element. Sure, it's sand box versus theme park but on the general idea that these are the foremost representations of Space MMORPGs, I think it fair to consider these worthy of the comparison.

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Are you actually paid for your articles? It is a frightening image...

Otherwise as someone already said, it is just a shame on MMORPG.COM for approving something like that on their website.

I won't even comment on your last paragraph that only expose your ignorance even further.

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

Originally posted by shakermaker0

 

Also, Eve Online versus Star Trek Online- is it a fair comparison? I am going to say yes, as both share a common genre element. Sure, it's sand box versus theme park but on the general idea that these are the foremost representations of Space MMORPGs, I think it fair to consider these worthy of the comparison.

lol.... no it isn't a fair comparison. Not just because it's sandbox vs. themepark though. The reason it isn't a fair comparison is that this just aren't 2 balanced opponents. There was never any question on anyones minds who would be the victor, even the STO fans know that EvE is light years beyond what STO could ever hope to be. You compared basically a name brand item to an off brand item thats been recalled and asked which is better. You just took something that everyone else already knows, wrote up an article on it and said "in your opinion". 

I mean come on, you have to see how the article is akin to things as asinine as what I'm writing below. 

 

"In my opinion the world is round, here is an article of mine discussing both theories written in 2010"

 

"In my opinion Mike Tyson could knock out your average 10 year old boy if they were to fight him, here is why"

 

"In my opinion I think diet and exercise is better than taking fen-phen" 

 

 

 

lol... 

 

 Yes , but whose fault is that ? Cryptic launched the game with full knowledge that it wasn't ready . Once they entered the market the gloves were off , putting it mildly , they exposed themselves to criticing and comparison . To say it's not fair is childish and immature. Cryptic bears the responsiblity for releasing a half-assed product in a genre that contains a tough competition and will get tougher with time.  Someone needs a nappy , I think.

I'm sure someone has mentioned it, but one huge reason it's not fair...

EVE was released in 2003.

STO was released in 2010.

In 7 years, who knows how good or bad STO will be. It could have 10 races with unique ships and tons of planets to explore. 7 years of development time is a HUGE difference.

EVE is goo, but slow, you need to be a really dedicated playet to achieve anything in EVE. STO is more of your arcade style game, you don't lose your ships, you don't need to mine for days and the universe is pretty instanced. But overall at least NOW, I enjoy STO better. (played EVE since 1995 with breaks, but game is very well made, its just easy to lose yourself in it). STO is good now especially now with their episodic events. Today is next Series starting, cool!.

LOL... what a comparison... having played both... ... ...... ...... oh wait... here comes the announcer...

"In this corner, EVE The Gigantic, with arms so expansive it cant see its fists... And in this corner STO the anorexic... so thin it can hide behind Paris Hilton... So LETS GET READY TO RUM......... ..... ...... It seems STO has fallen over and cant get up.... TKO of STO at 0.00 of the first round... lets go to the STO corner and ask what went wrong... here's head trainer Dip Cryptic... Dip... what happened? Well, we thought just the name STO could draw fans, big bucks, and knock out the compitition. Unfortunately a HUGE head on a skinny foundation just couldn't stand on its own... .... .... That was Dip Cryptic folks.... Looks like a lack of good training to me... lets hope STO makes some changes in its management team, this kids got good breeding and real potential... just needs visionary management willing to put in the time and resources it deserves... Good night everybody"    

Originally posted by colddog04

I'm sure someone has mentioned it, but one huge reason it's not fair...

 

EVE was released in 2003.

 

STO was released in 2010.

 

In 7 years, who knows how good or bad STO will be. It could have 10 races with unique ships and tons of planets to explore. 7 years of development time is a HUGE difference.

You think STO is going to make 7 years, 7 years full of developments and upgrades?

Originally posted by Unlight

Thought I'd take a peek just to see how badly STO got mauled.  It's about what I would have expected when a Tiger tank goes bumper to bumber with a Volkswagon Beetle.

We need more space MMOs, damn it.

 

lool! love the comparison

Same here. The winner was obvious. I only skimmed to see how bad the trashing was

Next week in fight talk:  Burning your eyes out vs apples.

I skipped reading this tripe.  If it was a marketing effort to build some positive spin for Eve I think they could have found a closer match up that would have provided actual worth to this otherwise crap article.

Damn over 150 posts telling the OP he shouldnt have made this match up... really?

Lets let this one die because with the shear volume of posts this thing has gotten you've shown these guys that they could match up anything and you will all post in its thread lol/