Sort of suprised me to read this today. I'm not quite sure what to say, it's rather unexpected and has perhaps made me more wary towards Aventurine, than I already was.

In his Activity Report October 15th, Tasos hints at DF2010, a relaunch and a Sequel.

"Finally we organized and participated in the Hellenic Game Developer’s Conference where we gave a very short (15 minute) postmortem on Darkfall development and how things went after its launch, successes and failures and lessons learned. We also mentioned some of our plans for the future, our next expansion / relaunch and also mentioned plans for the sequel to Darkfall. All development for a while now has Darkfall’s future generations in mind, all the lessons we’ve learned from Darkfall so far and all our player feedback will ensure that we keep improving this game and making better games in the future.

Next week we continue development on our next patches and parts of Darkfall 2010, we'll also have more information for you on the development end of things. We'd also like to thank you for the excellent feedback on the expansion which made it possible for us to locate and quickly fix most issues."

And Mr.White added in a different thread "Question: Sequel to DarkFall"

"After he was done talking about Darkfall, he went into future plans and, among other things, he mentioned the possibility of a Darkfall2 in the future, and how all current Darkfall development and development on the technology platform taking place is keeping future generations of Darkfall in mind."

While DarkFall 2 doesn't appear to be entirely "official" yet, I'm rather curious to know about the logic behind this possible "plan". DarkFall already appears to be struggling for many reasons that AV has not managed to correct, which have left both servers with a very small population composed mostly of veteran-type characters, leaving new players bitting the dust for months and months.

Is DarkFall 2 AV's way to "reset" the servers and have everyone start over from scratch? Add the features that were once promised but set aside? Bring modifications and features that will never be added in DarkFall? Guess only time will tell.

Lol, DF is still in it's infancy and they're already thinking about a sequel? Just what do they plan to add to part 2 that they can't put in part 1?

Originally posted by jusomdude

Lol, DF is still in it's infancy and they're already thinking about a sequel? Just what do they plan to add to part 2 that they can't put in part 1?

Been following these forums for years but very rarely do I post.

Came out of the shadow just to correct you. This whole "sequel" thing is a bit confusing I know, and apparently will be explained a little more next week, however, the way that Tasos refers to ''Darkfall 2'' ''sequel'' he means that the 2010 expansion will change the game so much that it will be like a different game.

I am just as hesitant to take anything AV says at face-value but what you were saying is just wrong. Thanks.

Originally posted by Troada

Originally posted by jusomdude

Lol, DF is still in it's infancy and they're already thinking about a sequel? Just what do they plan to add to part 2 that they can't put in part 1?

Been following these forums for years but very rarely do I post.

Came out of the shadow just to correct you. This whole "sequel" thing is a bit confusing I know, and apparently will be explained a little more next week, however, the way that Tasos refers to ''Darkfall 2'' ''sequel'' he means that the 2010 expansion will change the game so much that it will be like a different game.

I am just as hesitant to take anything AV says at face-value but what you were saying is just wrong. Thanks.

So you're saying where he say's the expansion which is clearly not the same as where he says sequel is actually the same thing?

Would be logical to make major changes to the game with the next expansion, re-launch, and call it "Darkfall 2" or whatever.

E: Well, you beat me to it, but I don't have any facts, just speculating.

Originally posted by Vaen

Would be logical to make major changes to the game with the next expansion, re-launch, and call it "Darkfall 2" or whatever.

 

E: Well, you beat me to it, but I don't have any facts, just speculating.

It would make more sense for them to make major changes in an expansion and call it DF2 with the relaunch but by what is said it seems the expansion and sequel are two entirely different things.

Sounds right, they hold on to all the new content, fix's, and what not for a huge revamp, change the name and rerelease it to the public. Doesnt sound terrible from a business view since darkfall never seemed to get its name out to the public and has been having issues with population and what people call the time gap( The diffrence of skills from newbs and vets ), unfortunately gamers are very big money and if they require subbers to pay for another game most will freak call them too geedy.

Don't you think it's a bit early to start wringing your hands over an announcement this vague? It may very well turn out exactly as you're predicting, but until that's known for sure worrying about it is a waste. At this point, you're worrying about your own conjecture rather than on any concrete facts.

What is definitely stated is that they plan on improving the current DF. They're almost for sure learning lessons on what was good and what was bad during this development cycle for use in any future games they make.

EDIT: If I misunderstood the meaning of your post I apologize in advance. I'm a bit edgy today thanks to work.

Look at it like this, it took 10 years to make DF vanilla. Lets say past experience could cut that time in half. That would mean DF2 is right around the corner... in 2015 or so ;)

No worries, DF 1 will be around for some time to come.

Originally posted by Nizur

Don't you think it's a bit early to start wringing your hands over an announcement this vague? It may very well turn out exactly as you're predicting, but until that's known for sure worrying about it is a waste. At this point, you're worrying about your own conjecture rather than on any concrete facts.

What is definitely stated is that they plan on improving the current DF. They're almost for sure learning lessons on what was good and what was bad during this development cycle for use in any future games they make.

EDIT: If I misunderstood the meaning of your post I apologize in advance. I'm a bit edgy today thanks to work.

Tasos himself said it at the HGDC, and Mr.White somewhat confirmed that AV is considering a DarkFall Sequel.  This is not about a post being vague or not, but rather that AV is already thinking/planning to make a second game, when DarkFall is in this present state. To me, it appears as if they are either not confident in DF2010 and are looking for a future potential source of income along side with DarkFall, or simply don't think they are able to "save" DarkFall  and believe that DarkFall 2 may do just that. Either way, that will affect the development time for either projects or expacs, possibly creating even further delays, etc.

My main issue is that this reminds me of Cryptic (CO, STO, and now the upcoming NWN), but I know that AV is better than that, but everytime I want to believe in AV, they punch me in the face.

Originally posted by Troada

Originally posted by jusomdude

Lol, DF is still in it's infancy and they're already thinking about a sequel? Just what do they plan to add to part 2 that they can't put in part 1?

Been following these forums for years but very rarely do I post.

Came out of the shadow just to correct you. This whole "sequel" thing is a bit confusing I know, and apparently will be explained a little more next week, however, the way that Tasos refers to ''Darkfall 2'' ''sequel'' he means that the 2010 expansion will change the game so much that it will be like a different game.

I am just as hesitant to take anything AV says at face-value but what you were saying is just wrong. Thanks.

Sadly you are mistaken.  And I'll quote the part again: We also mentioned some of our plans for the future, our next expansion / relaunch and also mentioned plans for the sequel to Darkfall

Aventurine is working on both: DarkFall2010 Expansion + Relaunch   AND there are plans for a DarkFall Sequel, thus DarkFall 2.

I smell fail all over this. Fact of the matter is , their is a lot to be done with Darkfall itself and their is no real reason for a sequel.Reminds me of another game that i loved that failed called "Neocron"  , the game has a lot of promise but dev's never really ficed things they just added a "sequel" and watched the game die.

Originally posted by Hellrazor27

I smell fail all over this. Fact of the matter is , their is a lot to be done with Darkfall itself and their is no real reason for a sequel.Reminds me of another game that i loved that failed called "Neocron"  , the game has a lot of promise but dev's never really ficed things they just added a "sequel" and watched the game die.

Ya, if they make a part 2 they might as well just take part 1 offline... they don't have a big enough playerbase to split them between 2 games.

What's everyone so up in arms about? It's most likely just talk, nothing more. Even if a second DarkFall is in the planning stages, how can you know that it will take any attention away from the current DarkFall.

Hell it could be anything. Who says that a sequel has to be anything like the first game? Whereas the first DarkFall is a open-ended PvP game, DarkFall 2 could be a more open-ended PvE game. Who knows? 

There is really no reason to be so upset at Aventurine for having future plans for itself and the DarkFall IP.

Two weeks after any relaunch, youll have all those "vets" at max skills again, like they all did the first time. 

They could get a synthetic "relaunch" simply by making all skill and stat caps 200 and making the first 100 improve faster than the next 100.

This just in.......

Darkfall2 to be relased

****CONTENT = everything that was promised to us in the Darkfail 1 launch

Originally posted by Redlucifer

This just in.......

 

 

 

Darkfall2 to be relased

 

****CONTENT = everything that was promised to us in the Darkfail 1 launch

If only...

much ado about nothing.  vague statements don't mean much.

Originally posted by jusomdude

Lol, DF is still in it's infancy and they're already thinking about a sequel? Just what do they plan to add to part 2 that they can't put in part 1?

Probably Guns, I could see them going for a Futuristic theme with Darkfall 2.

i mean couldnt you..?

I Lol'd you got me OP