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  Suzie_Ford

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Joined: 6/28/10
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10/15/10 12:26:49 PM#1

In his latest Fighting Talk column, MMORPG.com's battle master, Adam Tingle, places CCP Games' EVE Online and Cryptic's Star Trek Online in the ring for a battle royale. Adam compares each game's universe, player characters, community, end game and PvP features. Will one of these space-themed MMOs score a knockout? Read Adam Tingle's EVE vs Star Trek Online to find out!

Hello and welcome back! Today we pit two space-fairing MMORPGs against one another: Eve Online versus Star Trek Online. Just which is stronger? Just which is better? Just which has bigger space cajones? It’s Trekkies versus Evies, Galante versus Klingon; just who is better? Just who has the greatest crinkled brow? There is only one way to find out! Unhook the telephone, send your loved ones away to shelter, and as always clutch a genital of your choice with nervous tension. Let's. Get. Ready. To-A-Ruuuuumble!

Read more Fighting Talk: EVE vs Star Trek Online.

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  Methos12

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Its better to be quiet and perceived as stupid, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

10/15/10 12:38:03 PM#2

Couldn't wait for TOR, huh? Also, that was kinda... unfair match-up.

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  Papamac

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Joined: 11/28/08
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10/15/10 12:39:26 PM#3

Assuming that the scores given only reflect a comparison between these two games, then I have to agree.

EVE is a great title, worthy of its fans' dedication and loyalty.

STO... well, let's just hope that somebody else gets a shot at the Star Trek IP other than Cryptic.  Hopefully sometime in the not-too-distant-future.

  User Deleted
10/15/10 12:42:32 PM#4

Tossing EvE in "Fighting Talk" with STO is like matching up GSP and a toddler in the Octagon.

Can we do CO and CoX next please? I wanna see another land slide...

  mklinic

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10/15/10 12:45:52 PM#5
Originally posted by Papamac

STO... well, let's just hope that somebody else gets a shot at the Star Trek IP other than Cryptic.  Hopefully sometime in the not-too-distant-future.

Careful what you wish for. I believe someone else does have access to the ST IP and are making a browser based game. I'll try to dig up a link...

 

edit: ok, it's in German, http://www.gameforge.de/content/blogcategory/35/69/lang,en/ (despite the (lang,en) part). Looks like it is DS9 based according to google translation.

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  Tadzio

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10/15/10 12:49:19 PM#6

I already feel the drama.

 

Spreadsheets! Gankers! 20 years needed to catch up! Crappy UI!

vs

CO in space! No content! Cryptic! Cash Shop! It was cool for the first 2 days, then i ran out of content!

  User Deleted
10/15/10 12:51:37 PM#7
Originally posted by Tadzio

I already feel the drama.

 

Spreadsheets! Gankers! 20 years needed to catch up! Crappy UI!

vs

CO in space! No content! Cryptic! Cash Shop! It was cool for the first 2 days, then i ran out of content!

Nice Bait...

  Tadzio

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10/15/10 12:54:31 PM#8

More like pre-emptive strike :)

  Kyleran

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10/15/10 12:57:27 PM#9

I agree, this was a slaughter all the way, but it would be interesting to see it done again in about a year or so when SWTOR is released and has at least 6 months under its belt.

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  User Deleted
10/15/10 12:59:40 PM#10

Honestly I would have much rather seen a DF vs EVE article.

I understand they are to completely different settings but both games target a similar playerbase.

And seriously that article would have generated some Heat.

This one is just sad...

Even if you don't like Eve you can't deny that its a fundamentally sound game, STO on the other hand is a mess.

Even the players that like the game know it has problems. Its no freaking contest.

  Squal'Zell

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10/15/10 1:01:54 PM#11

Next edition in Fighting talk:

Books versus Cats

 

the only thing that is common about star trek and Eve online is that its internet spaceships. 

cant compare them in anything else.


  Aristides

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Joined: 3/02/10
Posts: 172

10/15/10 1:03:06 PM#12

Clearly this is some kind of joke.

EVE is the dominant space MMO.  It is a high-quality, player-driven living universe.  It has years of refinement and feature development poured into it, and a growing, vibrant customer base.

STO is a crappy knock-off, though of an intellectual property that millions know and love, with mediocre RPG gameplay and mediocre space gameplay.  Last I heard, it was busy choking on its own vomit.  I will be utterly unsurprised when I hear this abortion has been turned off.

Even troubled development projects like Jumpgate Evolution are probably going to be more interesting space games than STO.

Why are we even having this conversation?

  Eveeldour

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10/15/10 1:03:13 PM#13

Nice even matchup :P

  VirusDancer

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10/15/10 1:05:52 PM#14

A few things come to mind when thinking about STO.

  1. Imagine if CCP had done STO instead of Cryptic.  For those familiar with EVE Online, the space aspects almost feel like a perfect fit right off the back and one cannot help but notice the ST influence.  It is not that far of a stretch in the least to extrapolate other game mechanics from EVE into what would be a STO world.
  2. For those looking forward to Incarna in EVE, think about STO without the ground missions.  Is that what you are all clamoring for?
  3. And last but not least, did Cryptic design the worst possible jump animations as part of some April Fool's Day joke aimed at Square Enix?

I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?

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  User Deleted
10/15/10 1:07:56 PM#15

I have an idea.

Mods if you are reading this why not let us vote on the next Fighting Talk match up?

Put out a list of ten possible match ups and have us vote.

  eddieg50

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10/15/10 1:08:19 PM#16

The difference is Eve is boring right away and STO is boring after 6 hours of gameplay

  Zekiah

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10/15/10 1:14:48 PM#17

This is like comparing Mike Tyson in his prime to the local neighborhood bully.

*baffled*

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  tman5

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Joined: 8/24/07
Posts: 547

10/15/10 1:19:32 PM#18

Honestly, this article isn't even worth reading.  EVE vs STO?  Really?  You couldn't think of anything else to write about, like strawberry jam vs toe jam?

  StormwindX

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Joined: 8/16/10
Posts: 128

10/15/10 1:19:45 PM#19

Despite the whole unfairness of the match-up, the bias on this article is of such magnitude that it makes reading the whole thing a rather boring chore. It just screams "I love EVE so much and I believe that STO sucks!". Is impartiality too much to ask for? 

  colddog04

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Joined: 9/19/06
Posts: 2572

10/15/10 1:20:13 PM#20

What... the... hell... is... this?! None of this needed to be said.

 

It's like analyzing a fight between me and Mike Tyson.

 

Step one: Get owned by Mike Tyson.

Step two: Declare winner.

 

This just never needed to happen to find out who would win the fight.

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