I was just curious how people view the delay in general.

I'm sure that we all feel a bit a disappoint since those of us that are fans of comics and of this genre of game languish the extended wait.

However, I feel it's a good thing as well as it states that the company felt the game wasn't ready and they wanted to work on it more, before handing it to us. I do feel that a polished product with enough content to keep players busy is really important.

But do you think a delay harms the hype the game was attempting to build up? How many of you were interested, but lost interest in the game when the announcement of a delay was made?

I was interested in the game right from its announcement, and I'm only now looking forward to the game's release even more now having seen what DCUO had to showcase at NYCC. The game's looking pretty darned good now; it can only get better by the time they release it next year (January, hopefully!).

For me a delayed, well made game is preferable to an on-time piece of crap.

Originally posted by Trinitarian

I was interested in the game right from its announcement, and I'm only now looking forward to the game's release even more now having seen what DCUO had to showcase at NYCC. The game's looking pretty darned good now; it can only get better by the time they release it next year (January, hopefully!).

 I would have liked to see for myself what was displayed at the New York Con and certainly hope it was good. I still have high hopes for this game as I'm a long time DC comics fan.

I also agree with you Komarr. The last couple of MMOs that I have tried were released early in an attempt to meet a deadline the company (which I'll not mention, since it's like beating a dead horse) could not realisticly meet in order to obtain a bonus for producing the game/s. This, of course, made the game/s turn out to be unpolished and bug ridden.

The last thing I want to see is DCUO in the same shape.

I do think, however, that even with the delay SoE and the DCUO developers need to keep up the hype and keep up the interest in the game.

Originally posted by dnarris

I was just curious how people view the delay in general.

I'm sure that we all feel a bit a disappoint since those of us that are fans of comics and of this genre of game languish the extended wait.

However, I feel it's a good thing as well as it states that the company felt the game wasn't ready and they wanted to work on it more, before handing it to us. I do feel that a polished product with enough content to keep players busy is really important.

But do you think a delay harms the hype the game was attempting to build up? How many of you were interested, but lost interest in the game when the announcement of a delay was made?

 

I'm not sure...kinda torn atm...

I love that they were willing to listen to player feedback and are actually willing to address that feedback before release. I'm also bothered that there was so much feedback that they needed to delay the game. One is promising, but it's rather disturbing that there was enough that it warranted a delay...30 days before release isn't the time to start looking at feedback.

Missing the holiday doesn't help either, but they may be OK with the Gift Cards seem to be the new norm.

Originally posted by dnarris

I do think, however, that even with the delay SoE and the DCUO developers need to keep up the hype and keep up the interest in the game.

 That's what the beta process is for; it has a two-fold functionality:

1.) ongoing refinement, fine tuning, polishing, quality control of the client, server stability, etc.; and

2.) a litmus test for anticipated sales at release - it gives an indication to the publisher of how many boxes/copies of the game to produce and ship.

DCUO closing beta applications and offering spots in the beta test for pre-orders is a positive step; it both builds hype for the game and tells us the game is nearing release (Q1 2011 is not as far away as some people may think). SOE - like any other game publisher - wants to keep people interested in this game so expect to see a lot more information about it publicised on week to week basis.

DCUO has the potential to become SOE's flagship game - their golden child - much like World of Warcraft is for Blizzard.

If SOE get DCUO right - and there's a lot of pressure on them to do so since they're toting the DC Comics brand name - this game alone could do away with the stigma SOE carries with it at the moment as a "game breaker" (i.e. what they did with Star Wars: Galaxies, what happened to The Matrix Online, and so on) and not to mention do a lot for DC Comics, basically what Lord of the Rings Online should have done for Turbine and Tolkien Enterprises.

Originally posted by Trinitarian

 That's what the beta process is for; it has a two-fold functionality:

1.) ongoing refinement, fine tuning, polishing, quality control of the client, server stability, etc.; and

2.) a litmus test for anticipated sales at release - it gives an indication to the publisher of how many boxes/copies of the game to produce and ship.

DCUO closing beta applications and offering spots in the beta test for pre-orders is a positive step; it both builds hype for the game and tells us the game is nearing release (Q1 2011 is not as far away as some people may think). SOE - like any other game publisher - wants to keep people interested in this game so expect to see a lot more information about it publicised on week to week basis.

DCUO has the potential to become SOE's flagship game - their golden child - much like World of Warcraft is for Blizzard.

If SOE get DCUO right - and there's a lot of pressure on them to do so since they're toting the DC Comics brand name - this game alone could do away with the stigma SOE carries with it at the moment as a "game breaker" (i.e. what they did with Star Wars: Galaxies, what happened to The Matrix Online, and so on) and not to mention do a lot for DC Comics, basically what Lord of the Rings Online should have done for Turbine and Tolkien Enterprises.

Yeah, I can see that the beta can keep some hype up, but the thing with beta is that it's usually a select number of people and those people are sacked with a nondisclosure agreement. So, they really can't share anything with us or at least they aren't suppose to.

So, the responsibilty still falls on those with the power to do so to keep information flow out to those of us that are gnashing their teeth in anticipation and weren't lucky enough to end up in the beta.

I also, completely agree that this is a golden opprotunity for SOE to develop a game that can really skyrocket them as a major contender in the MMO world. If SOE gets this right they can begin to make up for the failures of the past.

I'm optimistic, but I hope SOE and DC do something over the next few months to keep it that way.

Originally posted by dnarris

 but the thing with beta is that it's usually a select number of people and those people are sacked with a nondisclosure agreement. So, they really can't share anything with us or at least they aren't suppose to.

 

 

That's true, but for a majority of beta testers, it's a "try before you buy" kind of deal. Once the NDA is lifted (usually when the developer moves to the Open Beta phase of testing) you'll see an assortment of write-ups around the web be they positive or negative critiques of the pre-release product. Primarily, the hype is built in the hope that one will be selected for beta testing.

Originally posted by TUX426

Originally posted by dnarris

I was just curious how people view the delay in general.

I'm sure that we all feel a bit a disappoint since those of us that are fans of comics and of this genre of game languish the extended wait.

However, I feel it's a good thing as well as it states that the company felt the game wasn't ready and they wanted to work on it more, before handing it to us. I do feel that a polished product with enough content to keep players busy is really important.

But do you think a delay harms the hype the game was attempting to build up? How many of you were interested, but lost interest in the game when the announcement of a delay was made?

 

I'm not sure...kinda torn atm...

I love that they were willing to listen to player feedback and are actually willing to address that feedback before release. I'm also bothered that there was so much feedback that they needed to delay the game. One is promising, but it's rather disturbing that there was enough that it warranted a delay...30 days before release isn't the time to start looking at feedback.

Missing the holiday doesn't help either, but they may be OK with the Gift Cards seem to be the new norm.

I feel that soe delayed, because they had no other option.  Cataclysm was releasing within a moth and the game did not look ready to release yet as witnessed by the lack of information released to the general public. 

There had to be something very wrong with the games condition to delay the game to miss the holiday sales season and fall right into the same period when so many other games are releasing.  If the game was ready to release today I think soe would have. 

Originally posted by Daffid011

I feel that soe delayed, because they had no other option.  Cataclysm was releasing within a moth and the game did not look ready to release yet as witnessed by the lack of information released to the general public. 

There had to be something very wrong with the games condition to delay the game to miss the holiday sales season and fall right into the same period when so many other games are releasing.  If the game was ready to release today I think soe would have. 

That could be very true, but if there was something wrong with the game, don't you think it was better that they delayed the release instead of  putting out a faulty product while going up directly against a strong competitor?

I mean, the delay did make me unhappy and made me doubt my interest in the game, but with the new inside the studio release a little while ago they got me as excited as the first day I heard this game was in the works.

Then I went and watched all the inside the studio videos again and now I'm really excited about the game again. I think as long as they keep making these videos with the developers answering face book questions and releasing screen shots and similar information, I think the hype will remain strong enough for a good opening for the game.

They just have to make the delay count or people will be pretty upset, I think.

I really like superhero MMOS as they do offer a nice variation from your run of the mill fantasy or scifi.

That being said I was looking forward to having something to do in November with DCUO.

If it means putting out a working product instead of all the mismanaged unfinished flops of late....then I can wait.

My opinion of what's to come hasn't been affected at all, why would it be? Whatever the reason behind it a delay must have been necessary, it's not really a big deal. If the game released tomorrow and was terrible that would be a big deal but them putting more work into it isn't.

Originally posted by Kabaal

My opinion of what's to come hasn't been affected at all, why would it be? Whatever the reason behind it a delay must have been necessary, it's not really a big deal. If the game released tomorrow and was terrible that would be a big deal but them putting more work into it isn't.

I'm of a simliar mind. I think that if a push back is necessary they should definitely do it. DC is such a great IP that I, personally, really want to see it come out well.

I keep wondering what would have happened with Cryptic if Marvel and Microsoft hadn't pulled out and the Marvel game came to be. Looking at the final product of Champions Online leaves me pessimistic in that line of thought. Maybe it would have been different with Atari's hands out of the mix. Clearly their two release delays did them no good.

I guess it comes down to whether or not you believe SOE is being responsible with the IP or whether they had other motives for delaying the release.

I'm the kind of consumer that buys a game and then plays it for a year or more before I decide whether I stick with it or move on to something else. I'm also itching for a new MMO. I just wonder how many other consumers are the same way and bought something else with DCUO being delayed?

Either way, I'm so optimistic about DCUO that I'm holding out. I'm not buying anything until it comes out.

too many games are rushed glad they are waiting and hopefully getting this one right, all we can do is speculate but pushbacks are becoming almost a given at this point, especially with so many tentative dates floating around so , doesn't worry me a bit

Originally posted by Exterminos

too many games are rushed glad they are waiting and hopefully getting this one right, all we can do is speculate but pushbacks are becoming almost a given at this point, especially with so many tentative dates floating around so , doesn't worry me a bit

 Yeah, I have to say that seeing some of the recent gameplay footage has made a lot more confident in the game. The game looks pretty good even though it is in a more involved beta now. You can definitely say it was a good idea they are taking the few extra months before releasing the game.

I think if it looks this good in beta now, they have the potential to really polish it up in the next few months. So what I'm hoping is that they really do hope that the extra time is spent wisely.

A net positive to me.  Since I'll never buy a game at launch that I didn't get to play in open beta, the delay means that they weren't skipping open beta as I had thought; they just aren't ready, yet.

Since CO is just a flat out mess, and CoX's latest expansion wasn't quite enough to get me subbing again(VERY disappointed in the gfx update), I'm hopeful for DCO.

In the meantime, with Fallout: New Vegas and the usual Christmas single player game kerplosion inevitably coming, I can wait til late Winter.

I wouldn't read too much into it.   Many games get delayed.  Release dates are only speculations, and they have to change them when needed.  Unfortunately, some games that should be delayed, aren't.  They are dealing with a major franchise here, they can't afford to rush it out the door.  I think they have learned from past mistakes. 

Disappointed that it's not going to be out sooner, but so glad they are taking their time to test it further. Beta tests are good. People will find more ways to break your game than you can ever dream of.

To be honest, Im worried. Not worried about why they have delayed the game, but worried because we have a lot of games coming out in 2011. This game isnt one that I would play over Tera Online or TOR. It's a game that I would try and play before those. Once I get into those games, I might not leave them to try this game out.

Im worried that I wont play it now

Originally posted by Ashlura

To be honest, Im worried. Not worried about why they have delayed the game, but worried because we have a lot of games coming out in 2011. This game isnt one that I would play over Tera Online or TOR. It's a game that I would try and play before those. Once I get into those games, I might not leave them to try this game out.

Im worried that I wont play it now

So don't play it. You don't have to play every game that comes out.  If you already know that you aren't interested enough to keep playing, why start? That doesn't even make sense as a worry.  Plus, you have no idea how those other games are going to turn out. They could suck. How many MMO's have been overhyped in the last few years?  Too many to count.  I'm interested to see how TOR turns out.  I'm not really fond of instanced MMO's, but I'll keep an open mind.  It just seems foolish to commit the whole of next year,  to games you haven't even seen.