General Discussion

I beat FF7 14 times and RPed in the "Final Fantasy" realm so to speak for years after that. So needless to say I loved the game...BUT

The best FF, for any real FF fan is Final Fantasy 3. The storyline and presentation value and just the sheer depth of the game was to the SNES what FF7 was for the PSX. It was just the best. If you've played it and don't agree with me, bear with me a moment and try to imagine FF3 (FF6/japan) with graphics on par with todays technology, or FF7's technology if you want to compare the two. Judge it that way and you can see how easily it surpasses any FF to date. For those who have not played it yet -- I'd suggest you do so, the graphics are way outdated yes but if you play RPGs on the GBA it shouldn't be too out of wack for you to stick to.

P.S. D.Cloud check out FF8 and Final Fantasy Tactic for your PSX, both are awesome games. (And don't buy FF9, its the worst of series, even worst than FFX-2 :P)

But as for greatest RPG, not counting FF games? I'd probably say Xenogears. The storyline was almost as contrived as the Matrix storyline, but if you had the taste for it you could definitely cut it apart and see how extremely exremely deep it was. It was one of the most compelling, emotional console RPGs I've ever played. Parasite Eve is also an interesting little RPG, short experience, but intriguing to say the least. Of course im sure no one forgets Chrono Trigger, Breath of Fire 3, and Lunar: Silver Star Story Complete. All awesome RPGs :D

I miss great console RPGS they don't happen much anymore (traditional, I love the way the BioWare console RPGs turn out, like KOTOR and Jade Empire, but I miss the traditional 'fantasy' type ones [that were actually good, like listed above])

"Ever heard of FF7"

My god, was someone living under a rock?! LoL
Well better late than never I guess...
Dont want to sound like a broken record, but FF7 is one of the best RPG's ever created

7 was good, but i liked a lot of things in FF Tactics better for it's unique designs to some of the systems and character designs. However, FF3 in the US is still the best RPG ever made in my book - i still play that game to this day. Chrono Trigger is a possible tie... I'd have to debate that one for a good long while if you asked me to pick just one. My SNES finally died a few years ago and i kept both of those cartridges with all my saves on it because i didn't have the heart to throw it out even though i'll probably never see it play on an SNES again.

yo. for once i agree with Sygmas. Final Fantasy VII is one heck of a game in the FF saga, the 6 IS the best of the series, but the VII is second.

as for best RPG ever made, that is so much debatable that is not even funny. I liked really much Planescape: Torment tough so i will leave it at that.

to the original poster: the game can be quite hard to beat if you go trough it completely. Now that you did that, take your time to find all the damn secrets that game has. in particular, get a gold chocobo so you can explore the whole world. doing so will give you THE most powerful summon ever created for any game. the 12 knights round. We are speaking 12x non-elemental ~5000 damage each!!

Couple of this summon, one or two 4x ZERO-bahamut and Yuffi last weapon (that does 9999 damage each and every hit) and the last Sephiroth goes down so fast, but SO FAST that you can't believe your eyes.

ok. that is all ;)

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Originally posted by Volkmar

as for best RPG ever made, that is so much debatable that is not even funny. I liked really much Planescape: Torment tough so i will leave it at that.

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I agree on Planescape. I don't think i could actually pick a favorite RPG. There are so many that I've enjoyed for months on end. As for PC games, Baldur's Gate series was great as well as Icewind Dale, the vampire series was amazing too. Xenogears story still leaves me in awe to this day, and the new Xenosaga games hold a lot of potential for another amazing storyline. There's so many to name, I still miss the glory days of SNES RPG's, and the original FF on NES. It's impossible to say which one is the "best" RPG, I've enjoyed so many, although lately the RPG market has been a little disappointing - starting with the release of FF-x2.

It depresses me that as new games are coming out, they're placing more and more importance on graphics and flashy crap for commercials and box screenshots to sell then a good story line and admirable characters you get attached to. Maybe it's just me though, missing the "good ol' days"

[quote]Originally posted by magik_fx
It depresses me that as new games are coming out, they're placing more and more importance on graphics and flashy crap for commercials and box screenshots to sell then a good story line and admirable characters you get attached to. Maybe it's just me though, missing the "good ol' days" [/b][/quote]

Wow, that sums up everything I've been thinking about the new RPGs. We need games like FF6, FF7, Crono Trigger, Lunar, and Shining Force II again. I miss the good ones.

~KingMazer

While the Rpg market isn't as good as it used to be these days, there is still a few decent games that have come out. Both the Shin Megami Tensei have been quite nifty, and Tales of Symphonia was a good, if slighty unoriginal, Rpg. Shadow Hearts 2 isn't half bad, and Dragon Quarter was a nice game that was somewhat creative too.

Of course, these Rpgs don't match the quality or quantity of the 93-95 Snes days, or the 98-00 Ps1 days.

Um, does this thread hurt anyone elses eyes?

definitely a great game... definitely very overrated...

sure was a huge sense of accomplishment back in the day though... beating FF7 was like the nerdy RPG players version of puberty...

knights of the round + omni-slash = buhbye sephi o_0... it's obscene how much more powerful u are with just those two abilities... oh, and that 4x cut move is fairly awesome too

as for being the "best RPG ever"... mmm... naw... although it would deffinatly rank among the top 5