Originally posted by Comnitus

Originally posted by tawess

"if Orcs can work together with chaos (what is imo stupid) than skaven can as well"

 

*Digs out his old CE* I think there is a brief section of the hardback commic that explains this... Nothing earthshattering just the good old magical mind controll trick.

 

Anyhow Skavens are kinda funky when it comes down to it. It is not so much them not working with others as other not working with them. Altho i belive Dark Elves have tried in the past. Most likley did not turn out to well but as a Warhammer table top gamer for long i know you never let lore get in the way of a good fight.

"If Orks can be manipulated by Dark Elves (what is IMO completely plausible) than Chaos can manipulate them as well."

"Orcs" are from Tolkein and the other wimpy fantasy IPs. ORKS are Warhammer. Skaven pretty much do their own thing.

Ork orc orcoid orker orch... You know what i was saying... pointless to pont it out.... About as usefull this this line of text...

Anyhow, I am sure it will be very hard to fit Skavens working "with" the empire... if nothing else becase they do not belive in skavens.. =P But then again lore always have to take the back seat if somehing can not be fitted within lore.

Playing skaven sounds really cool,but you have to EARN it :). WAR had potential that it did not live up to,witch i wish it would have..i loved my Chosen. but adding (as one other said) basicly monster play is grasping for survival imo. they should have spent more time and came out with a Good/deep Xpac. but im not a dev, dont know how hard that would be,all i can say is after 6months,a guild that was 200+ and followd WAR 2years prelaunch, and almost everyone is gone just goes to show really,i do kinda hope war can dig it self out of a hole.but as we have seen once you get so deep its REALLY hard to come back.

Originally posted by Comnitus

Originally posted by tawess

"if Orcs can work together with chaos (what is imo stupid) than skaven can as well"

 

*Digs out his old CE* I think there is a brief section of the hardback commic that explains this... Nothing earthshattering just the good old magical mind controll trick.

 

Anyhow Skavens are kinda funky when it comes down to it. It is not so much them not working with others as other not working with them. Altho i belive Dark Elves have tried in the past. Most likley did not turn out to well but as a Warhammer table top gamer for long i know you never let lore get in the way of a good fight.

"If Orks can be manipulated by Dark Elves (what is IMO completely plausible) than Chaos can manipulate them as well."

"Orcs" are from Tolkein and the other wimpy fantasy IPs. ORKS are Warhammer. Skaven pretty much do their own thing.

Sorry, in Warhammer its Orcs, not Orks.

Orcs in Warhammer.

Orks in Warhammer 40k

Originally posted by AZAlex86

Orcs in Warhammer.

Orks in Warhammer 40k

This, and just in case anyone tries to argue it, ill just post this link.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by Manchine

Looking good.

 

(In before the haters come.)

Love people that can't stand criticism.  If you have not figured it out yet, I feel sorry for you, the game is beyond hope, the design is just flawed beyond repair.  I don't see this game making it through next year, they don't have the subs and these changes won't bring many back, just too little too late.

This game is in it's death knells.   Just a matter of time before EA pulls the plug.

Love people who can't stand other peoples opinion.  This kind of stupidity never ends.  =)

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by DAS1337

 

If Darkfall can stick around with 15k subs, I'm sure WAR will manage with a measly 100k...

Agreed but the speculations is more if EA will allow it or not. The had no problem with Terminating Tabula Rasa that had something like 85K players so you can't really be sure (but you can be sure that WAR really should avoid losing 15K players more).

Trusting EA might not be a good idea no matter what and Mythic need to get more players one way or another if nothing else but to prove to EA that the game can support itself.

I have no doubt that WAR could be run for years as long as it have enough players to pay for the servers but the same was true for Tabula rasa and Sims online. No need to panic of course but that doesn't mean that the devs should relax, they need to make the game more fun so more players join.

WAR is fun in the short run but not so much in the long one (opinion). They should fix that, DAoC was the other way around so they should be able to do just that.

 

The main question is how much did EA pour into WAR, how much do they have a reasonable chance to recoup when recurring costs are factored in, and does slashing and burning any expenses related to EA make somebodies corporate balance sheet look better, or prevent a more productive arm of the company from facing cuts?

It's that simple. At this point it does not matter if the game has potential. It does not matter if the population has stabilized at a certain fan level, or if gameplay has been fixed, improved or revolutionarily  turned around. WAR lost money on its balance sheets. Lots of it. It is a massive disapointment in turns of revenue generation. Especially when compared to EA's primary competitor. ( and it is not escaping EA executives notice that most of their competitors profit has been coming from "non console games" ie WOW and Starcraft. WAR is what they expected to grab a piece of that pie damnit!). The current trash talking going on between the AB CEO and the EA one does not help WAR in any way. It is a festering pit of resentment, and will never escape that. So the only thing that it lives or dies on is whether or not it can meet ongoing expenses and whether its losses can ever be recouped. Love the game or hate it, at this point it is only a matter of time before it feels the harsh swing of the axe from an EA bean counter in order to protect an executives pet project.