How is this different/better than Voyage Century Online? Besides having worse graphics.

Originally posted by DrOrpheus 

That said, this doesn't seem like a combat/pvp type of game.

 Naww this is not a combat oriented game.  But there are some tactics used, even if it's not all flashing lights and crazy moves.  Land fights involve a building power bar to do better skills, use of many items, and standard attacks.  They are a bit of a challenge because the enemy can heal itself and drop explosives and such that take half of your health.  But then again you can do all these also by buying items.  After all the sea exploring and traveling, most peeps seem to get burned out by the time they need to explore and travel on land.  If you put in as much time and cash into your ship as land battles, you'll have no problems.

Naval battles are simplified compared to say PotBS.  A few things do matter tho such as relative direction and speed to the combatants and distance apart.  You can also ram the other ship for damage.  The weakest combat feature is the sea ship to ship fighting.  The only interaction you have with the battle is to retreat or use some skills.   The game shows the ships in the water still with the numbers of your sailors changing, or skills used by either fighter.  It's great if your def and attack are a lot higher than those pesky pirates.  However, if you run into one that's higher level all those sailors you hire and improve quickly die.  Then you'll have to find a number of ports, rehire sailors, make them happy, and train over time.

The death consequences are fair.  You can lose some gear, cargo, and durability on items so it definelty sucks.  But at least you don't lose everything.  PvP is everywhere tho, starting at zones relatively close to starting cities and extend to the last ports you'll discover.  In the end the game is about nations competing for ports, and there are always the rats, i mean player pirates, trying to steal your booty.

Originally posted by DrOrpheus

 That said, this doesn't seem like a combat/pvp type of game.

It's not. There is a combat aspect, but it does not focus primarily on combat as does pretty much every other MMO out there. To me and many others who are anxiously waiting for this game to go into OBT, that is the beauty of it. If you want to focus on combat then I would recommend any other MMO. This is what distinguishes this game from others, that fact that its focus is varied and not primarily committed to combat.

I feel this game is more for those who are tired of typical combat focused games, because frankly that's pretty much all that is out there.

 As far as comparing this to VCO I can only say I tried VCO, didn't like it right from the start and uninstalled it. Some games just don't feel right, to me it was one of those. So on that one I have no opinion other than that.

Isnt Pirates of the BUrning sea better than this?

This actually sounds pretty fun, I might check it out next time I am bored. :)

Originally posted by DreigonIdrie

So how is this different than VCO? looks and sounds the same. Also what about the pvp? we heard about the softer side now tell us about the WAR. Port raids? Nation Wars? Can I be a pirate? loved VCO until it tanked hard, would  be interested in a replacement for it assuming its not one big pve carebear fest.

So u want to have the difference between UWo and VCO.

UWO much better graphics (i played VCO and get eye cancer)

UWO much better world map

UWO have better economic/craft system

UWO have better political system

UWO is not a fantasy game like VCO (UWO is more like a historical naval game where u realy play the 15-17century)

UWO IS JUST BETTER IN ALL TERMS EXCEPT  the fight system is a bit better in VCO

Originally posted by M4ko

Isnt Pirates of the BUrning sea better than this?

Someone had posted a lengthy comparison of the two games, I'll try to find it , but a couple points I seem to recall was that PotBS did a superior job on PvP & action/combat, while UWO had a lot more content, better economic model  and a larger more immersive world. 

I am sure there are many people who feel PotBS is a better game.

I am equally sure there are many people who feel UWO is superior. 

Probably we will never reach a unanimous decision on which is "better". Just which suits each person better. All I can offer is my own personal experience that I tried PotBS  and could never get into it, I tried UWO and could not  stop playing it.

But it may be the exact opposite for you.

edit: on the graphics, people will also disagree on this. UWO has a very 'old school' feel which likely will feel 'dated' and turn some people off, however I found the muted color palettes and general art direction to be warm and inviting, not garish like many newer MMOs. I enjoyed being in the world.   I downloaded VCO to check it out, the art was indeed more "sophisticated" and threw in a lot more detail, but felt distant and cold and sterile to me.

I think this is again a very personal thing.  People are not going to agree. However I have seen a few screenshots of VCO that, on their own, looked absolutely  lovely and I would have to say superior to UWO, so in a screenshot contest I would expect VCO to win. I just felt different "feelings"  ingame for each. It is a hard one to score, I expect a few people are going to rate UWO very very low on graphics. But I liked the graphics.

The only thing i didn't like about burning sea (and no i'm not abbreviating that) is the fact that when your ship sank due to goodness knows what reason (in my case getting PVPed when i skimmed a brief side of the red circle then got mauled down by 5 people) and losing all of my gear, i think ship included if i recall.  It's not so much getting pvped though i think the people who do pvp tend to sit in packs in that game, it's the losing everything i didn't like.

UWO does similar except if you die you lose some durability not everything you own except whats on your back.  PotBS might be closer to reality when you sink but UWO (in my opinion) is more fun because i'm not always back to step 1 when i die or lose a battle for whatever reason.

So i think PotBS has better graphics this has the game play features i like a lot better.  Also in PotBS, you picked pirate, you had safe ports and places that noone could get you. that doesn't feel like a pirate to me.  A pirate has to hide in plain sight and worry about being hunted all the time.  Which i think UWO has captured closer to this reality then PotBS did.

Of course this is just how i see it. I'll be enjoying the game (whenever they decide to release the open beta client) right along with the rest of the Frenchies.

In that second screenie the water seems like it's moving, it's freaking me out I can get it to stand still.

OT might give it a try on the old laptop

Originally posted by mrw0lf

In that second screenie the water seems like it's moving, it's freaking me out I can get it to stand still.

OT might give it a try on the old laptop

lol you know I just looked at that pic and watched the water for a second and your absolutly right.. it does look like its moving.

Originally posted by whilan

Also in PotBS, you picked pirate, you had safe ports and places that noone could get you. that doesn't feel like a pirate to me.  A pirate has to hide in plain sight and worry about being hunted all the time.  Which i think UWO has captured closer to this reality then PotBS did.

 Good point that not a lot of the reviews mention.  There is a faction system in the game for each of the nations, including non-player nations.  I'm not sure how severe it is though.  If you become hostle to a nation, that nation's warships will agro you.  During CB people were asking how to repair factions and some of the answers mentioned that you just have to wait it out.  Stop killing that nation and in time your faction will be good enough to not be KoS.   Definelty sounds like a fun but tough decision to make if you wanna be a pirate.   There was so much to explore and try out in CB I didn't even get to the pirate aspect, but it sure looks interesting.

This is definitely a game I want to check out. I discovered it a few weeks ago, and really liked what I was reading about it. I've heard a lot of positive reviews on the CB, so I'm hoping it's as good as it looks.

Originally posted by brash99

Originally posted by M4ko

Isnt Pirates of the BUrning sea better than this?

Someone had posted a lengthy comparison of the two games, I'll try to find it , but a couple points I seem to recall was that PotBS did a superior job on PvP & action/combat, while UWO had a lot more content, better economic model  and a larger more immersive world. 

 

I am sure there are many people who feel PotBS is a better game.

 

I am equally sure there are many people who feel UWO is superior. 

 

 

 It's a fairly easy choice:

Potbs - Primarily PVP.

Higher risk & loss, better ship "combat" & has real boarding plus avcom, player driven economy; smaller limited Caribbean map.

UWO - Primarily PVE.

Lower risk & more varied features, bigger World map with diverse economy, more depth of content for adventure & exploration.

I stumbled upon this game by accident checking my daily MMORPG sites. After being addicted to the anime One Piece and actually decided to read up on the game details and first thing I saw was how the class system worked. It is kind of similiar to the SWG class system. The world seems fairly large and fun to explore. I will be trying this MMO on Oct 1st for the open beta and I feel like it will be amazing.

Well...I have to say...we may have found some buried treasure with this game.I have not played in beta but from what i'v read it looks like my kind of game.If the game forums are a cause for concerns perhaps some players will create their own game sites that are more gamer friendly.

Gee whiz, this game is not going to be anywhere near the Pirates of the Burning Sea experience.  But now it is clear why PotBS is going free-to-play.  It is to make sure they offer a free-to-play option to counter what this game is offering.

Let's be clear:  If you want to try this kind of game you should really be going to PotBS first.  They just rolled out an expansion and the game offers alot.  PvP heavy, but for us carebears it makes it more exciting when you have to sail through the pvp zones to deliver your cargo and avoid being attacked by pirates. 

I played in the CBT of this game and decided to try the 14-day Trial of PotBS while waiting for UWO OBT.

Frankly, I lost interest in PotBS, it doesn't have nearly the same depth as UWO.

But, if you want another fighting game then maybe you might like PotBS better, but to me, that seems to be all there is to it pretty much for the most part. Sorry, but I very much prefer the variety and freshness of UWO. Personally, I'm sick of the same old MMOs out there.

Originally posted by brash99

Originally posted by M4ko

Isnt Pirates of the BUrning sea better than this?

Someone had posted a lengthy comparison of the two games, I'll try to find it , but a couple points I seem to recall was that PotBS did a superior job on PvP & action/combat, while UWO had a lot more content, better economic model  and a larger more immersive world. 

 

I am sure there are many people who feel PotBS is a better game.

 

I am equally sure there are many people who feel UWO is superior. 

 

Probably we will never reach a unanimous decision on which is "better". Just which suits each person better. All I can offer is my own personal experience that I tried PotBS  and could never get into it, I tried UWO and could not  stop playing it.

 

But it may be the exact opposite for you.

 

edit: on the graphics, people will also disagree on this. UWO has a very 'old school' feel which likely will feel 'dated' and turn some people off, however I found the muted color palettes and general art direction to be warm and inviting, not garish like many newer MMOs. I enjoyed being in the world.   I downloaded VCO to check it out, the art was indeed more "sophisticated" and threw in a lot more detail, but felt distant and cold and sterile to me.

 

I think this is again a very personal thing.  People are not going to agree. However I have seen a few screenshots of VCO that, on their own, looked absolutely  lovely and I would have to say superior to UWO, so in a screenshot contest I would expect VCO to win. I just felt different "feelings"  ingame for each. It is a hard one to score, I expect a few people are going to rate UWO very very low on graphics. But I liked the graphics.

i see thx

Originally posted by whilan

The only thing i didn't like about burning sea (and no i'm not abbreviating that) is the fact that when your ship sank due to goodness knows what reason (in my case getting PVPed when i skimmed a brief side of the red circle then got mauled down by 5 people) and losing all of my gear, i think ship included if i recall.  It's not so much getting pvped though i think the people who do pvp tend to sit in packs in that game, it's the losing everything i didn't like.

UWO does similar except if you die you lose some durability not everything you own except whats on your back.  PotBS might be closer to reality when you sink but UWO (in my opinion) is more fun because i'm not always back to step 1 when i die or lose a battle for whatever reason.

So i think PotBS has better graphics this has the game play features i like a lot better.  Also in PotBS, you picked pirate, you had safe ports and places that noone could get you. that doesn't feel like a pirate to me.  A pirate has to hide in plain sight and worry about being hunted all the time.  Which i think UWO has captured closer to this reality then PotBS did.

 

Of course this is just how i see it. I'll be enjoying the game (whenever they decide to release the open beta client) right along with the rest of the Frenchies.

Could you clarify what the death penalty is in UWO? What do you loose? I am somewhat familiar with Pirates of the Burning Sea back from Beta quite awhile ago. But i am not a PvP player so did not continue with that game live, so I would like to know more about the consequences in this game.