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  CymTyr

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9/17/10 8:50:02 PM#41

Edit: doesn't matter.

  rubulator2k

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Joined: 5/24/04
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9/17/10 8:50:55 PM#42

This is the kind of review that will cause MMORPG.com reviewers/reviews to loose credibility... this game, to pretty much anybody I talk to about it, is a 100 hour offline game that they plopped online instead. I have a rating posted months ago so I wont repeat myself...

This game is not at all that good for more than a drive by... unless they did a TOTAL overhaul, expanded space, expanded ground, scrapped the "lobby" of galaxies... I respect any developers attempt at creativity... but not every effort is going to be good... you have to have an eye for mediocrity... this is just that...

  Grand_Nagus

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9/17/10 9:00:30 PM#43
Originally posted by elistrange


I was thinking about trying this game again. However, I would want to play a Klingon, and well that is obviously out the question....so I will go back to EvE Online, and wait for GWII or one of the other new MMOs coming out in the next year.

 

I'm currently leveling a Klingon and having fun. However, I'm alternating between my Fed and my Klingon, so I cant say I wouldnt get bored if I was ONLY playing my Klingon.

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  Ozmodan

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9/17/10 9:17:17 PM#44

Where is the discussion on game play?  You just seem to gloss over it.  Basically it does not resemble Star Trek in any shape or form beyond the fancy graphics.  Star Trek was all about exploration and there is zero, zip, nada of that in this game.

Giving this game a 5 is being kind, your 7.4 is absolutely absurd.  Don't try to tell me they are improving it, the basic game design is a complete failure, you just can't fix that.

  User Deleted
9/17/10 9:22:36 PM#45

Not a bad looking game but not one I would ever pay a sub fee to again.  It's not out of any particular venom at Cryptic either as some will probably respond I just realize that as it stands now the game could provide a player like myself with a few weeks fun at the most making it never worth the monthly sub fee.  I must admit though if it were free like during the welcome back weekend I made it to I would probably log in to see what new things they added but not much more than that still.

While I'm not willing to disagree with the review score I can definitely say it couldn't rate that high from me (and would also still rate lower than the original score it got here).

  Votan

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9/17/10 9:29:09 PM#46

Are you kidding me 7.4 really?!!!! Did Cryptic just buy advertising and this re-review a throw in bonus for them?

As one poster already said it is reviews like this makes this site lose all credibility. 

I suppose you would give APB a 7 then.........

  Dinendae

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9/17/10 10:12:59 PM#47

"The Klingon faction also saw racial uniform options added already in Season Two."

   Really? Well, I guess it can be considered 'radical' when you look at how awful it was at launch; when something starts out at rock bottom, the only direction it can go is up. My god, the Klingon players just recently were begging for a frikking coat! Also, in regards to the comment in the article about Cryptic breaking their promise on the Klingons a year ago, that comment is false. Cryptic was promising that the Klingons would be a fully fleshed out faction at launch, and afterwards; the 45 day patch was supposed to focus on them initially, as Cryptic stated they needed time to make a Klingon version of the Genesis system.

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  Grand_Nagus

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9/17/10 10:38:10 PM#48
Originally posted by Dinendae


"The Klingon faction also saw racial uniform options added already in Season Two."

   Really? Well, I guess it can be considered 'radical' when you look at how awful it was at launch; 

 

Try reading again. The word was raCial, not raDical.

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  Soldarith

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Joined: 2/18/07
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9/17/10 11:44:46 PM#49

I believe that your score of 7.x is FAR too nice for an incomplete product. How is it possible, then, for your staff for rate any finished product lower than an 8?

I understand STO has given MMORPG.com revenue for advertising on your front page, ran multiple contests on your site, and had an interview or two with your staff. However, you are an MMO news reporting site. Your stance and your staff's should be impartial to any development studio.

This "re-review" is obviously very much influenced by the site's relationship with the game's development company, painting the game and the development studio in good light. Standing by this article's score, and missing significant areas for review, causes you to lose creditability among the player base and other note-worthy MMO industry sites.

  raistalin69

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9/18/10 1:04:34 AM#50

7.4???

so does that mean that mmorpg is now rating games on a scale that goes to 20?

if sto is a 7.4 i can think of half a dozen games that are above 10.

 

IF THE ONLY DEFENCE FOR CRITICISM OF A GAME IS CALLING SOMEONE A TROLL OR HATER, THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE GAME

  Ruivoml

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Joined: 9/18/10
Posts: 4

9/18/10 1:56:40 AM#51

 just viewed the review. It does a nice review of the things we have recently viewed in STO.

Its nice to view that there are some who view the need of re-viewing sto to make a rereview of previous reviews..


And i must say that, right now, in retrospect i do believe that Star Trek Online will soar high in the years to come. The devs DO hear us, and Daniel Stahl is as good a executive producer as we could ever desire. Most executives these days seem to think that they are far too important to debate ideas with the community, but dstahl, rekhan and others are so in touch with the community that we sometimes forget who we are talking to.



All in all, i surprisingly found myself playing STO every single day again since last week, and only after reading this re-review i noticed that i was once more having fun. STO future does looks brighter and brighter from where we stand

 

And another thing i must say is.. most people in here who are complaining and whining should be a little more involved in STO's community before saying that this game sucks. The thing is that STO was plagued by bad decisions in the past, and now it is entirely under new management. In the past 3 months, dStahl managed to turn water into wine regarding some aspects of the game, and there still is much more to come. Just wait until the new ground-combat system hits the main server...

  IAmMMO

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Joined: 5/17/08
Posts: 1300

9/18/10 2:08:18 AM#52
Still a shadow of a game of what it could have been as a MMO with that IP. It's a Star Trek online game for kids.
  Waizer

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Joined: 7/14/10
Posts: 110

9/18/10 2:26:38 AM#53

review was a good read. Haven't played this game but watched a friend play it for a few hours once and in all honesty I was tempted to have a look at it (especially as there was an offer at that point in time) until he said that the space combat was all it really had and he showed me the games problems.

 

Like I said I dont play this game nor probably ever will because that first view of the game destroyed it for me, but I am glad to see that the developers got shifted around and they are now taking the game in a good direction. Just a shame that they never spent more time getting the game right before release... although how many games can this statement be applied to nowadays?

  Shreddi

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"The decisions you make today will effect the rest of your life"
-Danny Devito

9/18/10 2:27:56 AM#54

Yea it could have been....   What ever,  I know a bunch of people that could have made a success when othes didn't .   Thing is...   they never did a thing but talk. 

So...  i can not say where Criptic is short but, maybe not at all.  who knows?   The games graphics are killer, the missions are good as any mmorpg. 

Space is a hard one to make mmorpg casual maybe?    EVE online players if you are HardCore,  don't get going please.  I understand Eve and it's incredible theory,  i agree with it all the way.  But mmorpg's  are not a Life Sacrificing event.   Eve is great but....   Not enought room for another.  

In the mean time,  STO is good.  What else can you do in space? 

Will Tell Ya how this GAME wuD ROCK !!!       Its not What do ya do in Space,   duh,   iT is WTF can ya do TO the planet!!!     Allow STO to attack CO.   A new expansion.  Aliens vs CO,   Like War of the Worlds or Mars Attack.    Anything.   The work put into this program could kick ass if unleashed on the other.   Cryptic let your products go to war!!!    Hell make it a third product if the co and sto world wanna be left alone.   the scenerio could bring on as much as the box office did if done right.  


This post is intentionally written not to make any sense what so ever. Thank You Very Much.

  Scot

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Joined: 10/10/03
Posts: 3602

9/18/10 4:10:39 AM#55
In the ‘Cons’ they say it’s a one faction game. But in the article they talk of factions as if there is more than one, what is that all about?
 
“The interiors, it should be noted, are at an unfortunately noticeable heightened scale” - What does that mean, is it ST technobabble? :)
 
What is their version of Monsterplay? How do they handle it? They mention pvp separately, is there any other sort of pvp.
 
"You are seldom encouraged to group until you hit a very specific segment of endgame, by which point most players are thoroughly unprepared for how to function in a group." - This is deplorable, it might as well be a solo game.
 
Typo's:
 
“particularly the accommodate the ship's modular visual customization approach” I think he means a ‘to’ here Captain.
 
"Players who were hoping for a change in the ame's space combat design will be disappointed." Dropping a 'g' is not logical Captain.
 
"Klingons are a bit more involved than monster play (from Lord of the Rings)," Logically 'in' I think Captain.
  Aki_Ross

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Joined: 6/22/09
Posts: 168

9/18/10 4:26:11 AM#56

7.4 is an overrating. I would say it's more alike a 4.0, but I suppose it all comes down to prospective. STO still isn't a very good game and never will be as long as they stay to Cryptic's original concept.

  LastLine

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Joined: 9/17/10
Posts: 3

9/18/10 4:54:32 AM#57

Still the community's coming out with some good stuff too, one player created an iPad app whereby you can fly your ship using a star trek console,not exactly a necessity but certainly good fun

 

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/tap-play-mmo-controller/id387723212?mt=8

  drel

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Posts: 923

9/18/10 5:19:54 AM#58

Interesting article.  If the game fails for you on the first go around trying it, why would you want to come back to it?

  Renko

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Posts: 96

9/18/10 6:51:30 AM#59

Great review, spot on. A lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth on the official forum from the Klingons about this review, I guess some people just can't handle the truth.

  Dinendae

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9/18/10 6:57:53 AM#60
Originally posted by Grand_Nagus 

Try reading again. The word was raCial, not raDical.

 Eh, that happens from time to time; I'm dyslexic and although I do try to make sure I read everything correctly, things sometimes slip by. Still I find the fact that the klingon players are begging for a coat to be quite telling; Cryptic's reputation for customization was clearly lacking for the Klingons at launch, both in characters and ship options.

"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan

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