Originally posted by Aragon100

But i think youre in for the surprice of youre life when Darkfall delivers the best MMORPG game of all times.

no

So (snickers) I guess if the world goes all medieval (snickers more) and technology implodes on itself and disappears all of you Darkfall players will be prepared for what ensues from playing Aventurines "war simulator"(gut hurts from snickering so hard)

When did trolls get necro skills? Was that in their latest patch?

Originally posted by Asheram

So (snickers) I guess if the world goes all medieval (snickers more) and technology implodes on itself and disappears all of you Darkfall players will be prepared for what ensues from playing Aventurines "war simulator"(gut hurts from snickering so hard)

Icarus Studios (makers of post-apoc Fallen Earth) do government contract work too, as well as corporate work, simulations and such, I guess, so between these two companies, the secret government behind all the other governments really has their bases covered.  No matter what disaster befalls our planet, their special MMORPG-trained forces will be ready!

Okay, I love a conspiracy theory as much as the next person (probably more), but this one isn't something to get your tinfoil knickers in a twist over.  Game designers love AI and violent, immersive worlds.  Happens governments and militaries do, too.  But when I finally do give Darkfall a shot, I'll keep a sharp eye out for those highy trained commando gankers.  Especially the casters.  Gotta watch out for those military mages.

Originally posted by UbberGoober

I think they're a Defense contractor. It seems that way, they were listed as one of the Companies that attended the2006 exhibition in Athens Greece on Conventional Systems for National Defense on Land Sea and Air.

Here's the website.

[url]http://defendoryinternational.gr/home.htm[/url]

 

And here are the companies that are listed Aventurine S.A is one of them

[url]http://defendoryinternational.gr/list_2006.htm[/url]

 

Here's a small snipet of the companies listed.

 

ASTRA (SES ASTRA S.A.)	LUXEMBOURG
ATK	U.S.A.
ATLAS ELEKTRONIK GmbH	GERMANY
AVENTURINE S.A.    <-----------------DF Developers.	GREECE
AVIATION INDUSTRIES ORGANIZATION (AIO)	IRAN
AVIATION WEEK	U.S.A.
AXON ENGINEERING	GREECE
AXON S.A.	GREECE
BAE SYSTEMS	UNITED KINGDOM
BAE SYSTEMS (International) Ltd.	GREECE

 

 

What do you guys think? WHy would a Defense Contractor be involved in a MMORPG? I wonder who's backing them financially.

Old news.  They did defense contracts to help fund Darkfall.  I forgot where I saw this but it was known well before Darkfall even went into beta.

Originally posted by -Zeno-

Originally posted by UbberGoober

I think they're a Defense contractor. It seems that way, they were listed as one of the Companies that attended the2006 exhibition in Athens Greece on Conventional Systems for National Defense on Land Sea and Air.

Here's the website.

[url]http://defendoryinternational.gr/home.htm[/url]

 

And here are the companies that are listed Aventurine S.A is one of them

[url]http://defendoryinternational.gr/list_2006.htm[/url]

 

Here's a small snipet of the companies listed.

 

ASTRA (SES ASTRA S.A.)	LUXEMBOURG
ATK	U.S.A.
ATLAS ELEKTRONIK GmbH	GERMANY
AVENTURINE S.A.    <-----------------DF Developers.	GREECE
AVIATION INDUSTRIES ORGANIZATION (AIO)	IRAN
AVIATION WEEK	U.S.A.
AXON ENGINEERING	GREECE
AXON S.A.	GREECE
BAE SYSTEMS	UNITED KINGDOM
BAE SYSTEMS (International) Ltd.	GREECE

 

 

What do you guys think? WHy would a Defense Contractor be involved in a MMORPG? I wonder who's backing them financially.

Old news.  They did defense contracts to help fund Darkfall.  I forgot where I saw this but it was known well before Darkfall even went into beta.

 It is old news. But Darkfall was funded with grants from both the EU and the Greek government. It is also my guess that since the upper management of Aventurine are of Middle-Eastern heritage that oil and write-offs play a part in it also.

Originally posted by Respit

 It is old news. But Darkfall was funded with grants from both the EU and the Greek government. It is also my guess that since the upper management of Aventurine are of Middle-Eastern heritage that oil and write-offs play a part in it also.

Where did you get such ideas ? Can you give sources ?

Good find, saying that we've known they been in the simulation business for the Greek military since they've moved to Greece years ago.  Old news, but good find none the less.

Old topics let old beings crawl under the rock and into the light again i guess.

We have sources for AV doing projects for greek military and not a single proof on anything else claimed.

This thread is quite old. Locked due to necromance.

one of the graphic designers is in their version of the reserves and he just got back.

How much you want to bet when he filled out a form he put the company name on it?

Originally posted by Chirugai

This thread is quite old. Locked due to necromance.

Or not . . . ?

This is already known to the DF community. It's no hidden secret AV had kept hidden.  Can find your way to that info through their own site.

I work for a company that has a defense contract and just got back from Cape Town South Africa.  I worked a show called AAD

http://www.aadexpo.co.za/

Not sure its a big deal...is it?

Originally posted by daarco

Maybe Tax is a WoW player 

And he dont like the idea of player freedom.

I spoke with a WoW player today. It was like mastrubating with a pair of scissors, fun in the beginning...then mostly pain.

 

He could not understand why anyone would have player freedom to do quest. Then i told him there isnt a quest MMO. Thats was impossible for him to understand. Then the conservation went out of hand.

Player 1: "But.... but... how can you play a game - nevermind *enjoy* one - that doesn't show you exactly where to go or what to do?"

Player 2:  "Well, the game leaves it up to the player to find out for themselves, kind of like your old-school RPGs, or they can talk to other players and ask for help, which helps build community."

Player 1: "... blank stare ..."

Player 2: "You okay?"

Player 1: "I'm trying to figure out how you would know what to do. That doesnt sound very fun. There's no ! or anything to let you know who has a quest?"

Player 2: "Nope. Not one."

Player 1: "... blank stare ..."

Player 2: "Hello?"

Player 1: "How do you know who has quests?"

Player 2: "You talk to them and find out"

Player 1: "But, how do you know who to talk to?"

Player 2: "You talk to different NPCs and see what they have to say"

Player 1: "That doesn't sound very polished to me. You should play "insert casual  heavy hand-holding MMO here" instead. It doesn't make you do any of that. It tells you everything you need to do, where you need to go, it shows you where your quest items are.. some items even have sparkles, so you don't have to waste any time finding anything. There's no reason why a new, modern MMO shouldn't have all that"

Player 2: "That's exactly why I don't play games like that"

Player 1: "But, why?"

Player 2: "I think this conversation's over"

Sadly, I've had almost exactly that conversation with someone.... at a GameStop, with one of the employees when talking about FFXI some time back. Blank stares and all... well, they were more quizzical looks, like he was trying to comprehend what I was saying to him lol.

Same, it seems, could be applied to DF.

Edit: Apparently this is a very old thread lol. I just jumped to the most recent post, noticed the date and then went back a few pages, and didn't even realize how far back it went. Apparently, a mod had intended to lock it... Yet I'm posting... I have power over death!!