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  shadow9d9

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9/13/10 2:15:36 PM#21
Originally posted by doorb7

Tired of all the people that keep saying, "the mechanics wont't change the mechanics wont change the mechanics won't chnge" 99.9% of the people who have followed this game and been in the cb and ob know the mechanics wont change, but we do know that alot of the quest content is not in yet because SE do not want ppl to experiance everything in ob and burn out. all they want us to do, is play around with the game, test the mechanics and stress test. Stop telling everybody mechanics wont change we already freeking know.

 

Guessing and hoping that a majority of content was left out of open beta is preposterous.

  doorb7

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9/13/10 2:17:23 PM#22

no it couldnt. or yes it could, because then it could be followed up by one of those "reviewer only played for 20mins" stories like darkfall on eurogamer. The UI, whilst it is laggy and needs to be improved works fine if you use a controller. Yes they should make it easier for keyboard players but if you just research a little and play a little then you know this game was designed for controller use. Sound, music animations and graphics are ll top notch and nobody can argue that, though i agree the client needs optimising. yup some areas use the same texture and tile assests but so do all games. Combat is fun once you have more than one skill, and is challenging on hrder mobs. Chat in this game is horrible, global, lfg and trade channels all need adding. The method of using retainers in the market wards would work much better if we could have sentance strings above ech retainer so we can get a general idea of what each one is selling. Guildleves, are a nice way of being able to log in, get a couple of quests done alone or with a group and progress when you only have limited time. more quests from npcs will be in from launch that are more time consuming, along with the main story. Crafting is difficult to learn, and somewhere to remember what recipes you have learnt, or previously made would be nice, instead of having to remember. Party play needs more incentives, at the moment there doesnt seem much point, but with harder quests and tweaks to xp gain etc im sure this will be fixed. That was just a few things of the top of my head. The game isnt perfect by a long stretch but its nowhere near as bad as people make out. UI lag is a genuine complaint, and the need for a few tutorials is too, but most other complaints are from people who can't be bothered to learn how to play, adapt to a new way of playing or don't like not being rewarded every time they spell there username correctly. 

  doorb7

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9/13/10 2:20:11 PM#23

Its not prepostreus(lol i cant spell that either) shadow, its exactly what the devs have stated. a lot of quests, items etc are simply not in the ob client. how everything works is going to stay the same ofcourse it is, so if you dont like the combat, or questing then sure dont buy the game, but if your complaing because of lack of things to do quest wise etc, this is why.

  seabeast

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9/13/10 2:36:09 PM#24

Good review that has reported game issues that I have been reading about. I was ready to drop momey on a new PC but have changed my mind considering past experience with other game releases. Gaming has become a great hobby for me but I am not willing to spend time researching on how to run programs, how to find information and/or rerig my system in order to play this game. I wonder just how many other people are willing to do so and how it will effect the population of the game the first year of release. Thanks for the review OP

  shadow9d9

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9/13/10 2:46:32 PM#25
Originally posted by doorb7

Its not prepostreus(lol i cant spell that either) shadow, its exactly what the devs have stated. a lot of quests, items etc are simply not in the ob client. how everything works is going to stay the same ofcourse it is, so if you dont like the combat, or questing then sure dont buy the game, but if your complaing because of lack of things to do quest wise etc, this is why.

Quote it and educate all of us where they say that non story quests are bein left out.

  natuxatu

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Bookah

9/13/10 2:47:23 PM#26

Of course the fanboiz are in denial once again. They can't accept the fact that someone doesn't like the game and thus it must be:

1) Troll

2) Too used to WoW

3) It's only beta and going to be oh so drasticlly different at launch (good luck with that.)

4) It's actually more than a week away.. like a week and half because that really matters.

 

I feel bad for those that just can't accept reality. Of course I am talking about those of you that use the above reasons.

If you played the game and really do enjoy it, that's understandable. I'm sure there are a bunch of people that simply love this game. But using the above excuses is a sad attempt at justifying anything.

  User Deleted
9/13/10 2:50:33 PM#27

"Its not for you".

  donaldduck

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9/13/10 2:50:37 PM#28

So basically the devs have not learned a single thing from their first FF MMO ... reading this review you could have been excused for thinking it was about FF XI ...sigh

  MisterSr

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Nothing surprises me these days, luckily I am getting into the industry to create my own surprises.

9/13/10 3:02:37 PM#29
Originally posted by Zeblade

Well I've been playing and its the best ever mmo out there 10/10!

 

Haha.. ok no really I agree with most the 1st poster said. Dont ask why but the min I turned on AA the mouse was alot better. Thats the only part that LAGS for me. Beta yes.. still has bugs. Tiny bugs like "should is shuold". Or I had one of those time quests, started it.. something flashing on my map.. game crashes. Restart.. I have the quest but no time now and cant restart, I dont know how to delete it. 

The quest thing for some I guess is easy but me.. wow SOOOOO lost. Dont know where to start, go. I dont mean I want everything handed to me but its very confusing. The cut scenes are beautiful and the starting scenes have voices but once you start to play no more voices ever ..well for so far. After all these years you would think MMO's would bring more life to NPC's. For me this is no upgrade (so to speak) from the last one at all. It wont be a huge hit thats for sure. If you love it great.. for me and this is very sad to say.. wow as wow is NOW ..is more fun.

 

Voiced scenes are called Events, they only apply to major moments. Think of FFX when a movie clip comes along every once in a while only when the scene is a pivotal part in the plot. Those are voice acted, the rest is just read. 

  Ralsar

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9/13/10 3:03:57 PM#30

Open beta only has 0.22% of the content that release will have!  It's beta!  BEATA I TELLS YA!!!1 hehe

 

Well written review.  As always I agree with so many of the bad points of this game, but for some reason I'm really liking it.  I am sticking with my CE and will put in a solid 30 days.  If I can still find the fun at that point then rock n' roll.  If not then I'll just go back to waiting for Guild Wars 2.

  User Deleted
9/13/10 3:04:34 PM#31
Originally posted by Magnum2103

One correction OP.  Beta is not the second development stage.

You have multiple development stages that don't use the Greek system.  You have pre-production, then production phase with mutliple milestones which include Alpha and Beta versions of the game.  You also have a post-production phase (in a MMO you'd be putting out new content and fixing bugs during this phase).  Beta could actually be the hundredth build of that game.  Beta is actually the final stage of testing when the game is most feature complete and should be ready for release.

Added to the Alpha and Beta versions there should be a Gamma version where all the planned content is implemented and it's atleast 95% bug free...  this version might not be available at launch.

  Homergdog

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9/13/10 3:26:24 PM#32

I'd have to agree with the OP on most of what he said. However, I do enjoy the game, and have pre-ordered the collectors edition. Why? ... Because there isn't anything else to play atm and I love Final Fantasy Games... lol.

A couple things I need to point out though. This game closely resembles FFXI with a new graphics engine, and also your wrong when you say you have to only use a keyboard. Keyboard = typing... Logitech Rumblepad 2 = playing with your feet up. I love the controls for this game, because it was made with a gamepad in mind.

Common Questions:

***Does this game have issues/bugs? Yes, as does every MMO (I'd put the FFXIV a little ahead of most MMOs though... then again... I play a lot of SoE games lol.)

***Is this game fun? To me, Yes, but you will have to make up your own mind

***Is this game different from your typical MMO? Yes, noone will be calling this a WoW ripoff. Thats what I probably love about this game.

***I've died and I can get up!!!?!?!?! Yes, the first time you die you will sit there and go through your game manual... Let me save 5 minutes from your life. Goto Menu and Select RETURN!

 

All and all, i'm glad FFXIV isn't normal and is somewhat hard (not FFXI hard, but not WoW easy). My main fear was that they would make FFXIV with the typical WoW ripoff quest and control systems. That was laid to bed in open beta and I placed my pre-order. See you IN GAME!

Titus Maximus

  User Deleted
9/13/10 4:06:11 PM#33

Wow, this review is exactly how I feel, every single part of it. I couldn't quite put it in words, and now I do don't have too. And also to the "Its only beta" club, most of the complaints about this game are not about the content. Adding more content isn't gonna change most of the bad or negative views this game is creating. Its about the game's core systems. Adding more content won't fix that.

  MadnessRealm

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9/13/10 4:47:45 PM#34
Originally posted by shadow9d9
Originally posted by doorb7

Its not prepostreus(lol i cant spell that either) shadow, its exactly what the devs have stated. a lot of quests, items etc are simply not in the ob client. how everything works is going to stay the same ofcourse it is, so if you dont like the combat, or questing then sure dont buy the game, but if your complaing because of lack of things to do quest wise etc, this is why.

Quote it and educate all of us where they say that non story quests are bein left out.

Bah can't find it, though it has been quoted multiple times on this forum already.

 

Althought I did find this:

"The following is a list of several of the synthesis recipes available in the FINAL FANTASY XIV Beta Version. However, remember that this is only a sample of the hundreds of items players can create as Disciples of the Hand."

https://dev-na.ffxiv.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=106552#Post106552

It's possible that you can't see or access the websites if you don't have a Beta Account. But other than what I quoted, it's just a list of recipe for Crafting so you aren't missing anything.

 

If I find the thread, I'll edit this post. I know it's there somewhere, had found it few days ago.

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  crazynanny

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9/13/10 4:56:55 PM#35

Kudos to OP on well written review. You got here all major issues but also promising features this game have. I feel for all nice people that like this game, that SE made it so new user unfriendly as because of this community will be hurt. After all You should be dragged by the game instead having lots of patience to stick with it. I just can't imagine dragging a friend new to MMOs to FF XIV...


As for me - despite being bored with WoW/LOTRO/other MMOs style of questing and enjoying story, music and crafting in FF XIV - I just couldn't bear with all issues. No AH, mail system, shared bank made me said ok, that's it. *ahem* You guys I'm going home :)

  Ortisai

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9/13/10 5:15:37 PM#36

this review has to be changed to a preview.

As far as your opinion goes, we thank you for voicing it, but those of us (160,000+) who have committed to purchasing the game at launch, have made up your mind.  Most of the people (if not all) that agree with you here are those who already committed to cancelling or have cancelled the preorder (or have not even planned on playing the game)

Open beta as it is now is not the complete game we will see come next weekend.

We dont even have close to 50% of the content the full game has to offer.

only 2 of the starting cities main quests

only a handful of crafting items

the mobs are scaed down for the time being

 

 

my biggest issue the UI lag, it can be better but its not terrible.  They fix that and a lot of people will be happy

  ironhelix

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9/13/10 5:32:27 PM#37

I love people who review incomplete software. Exactly what is the point? It is akin to ordering a Bentley, driving to the factory before it's complete, and complaining that it's not going to work right because it doesn't have any wheels on it. I understand that at this point the game is mostly finished, and core features are not going to change, but much of the OP's issues with the game are simple matters of optimization. The UI will work right. The mouse lag will be fixed. Does anyone REALLY believe that they won't remedy those issues? On top of everything else, the OP purports to know (as spelled out in the Foreward) under what premise SE are conducting this "open beta" as if he were on the board of directors. The fact is that no one knows FOR SURE what the final state of this game will be, and reviewing it now is kind of a waste of time. 

And who in the Hell has time to write all that shit about a beta test anyway? Get a fucking hobby already.

  Gurpslord

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9/13/10 5:36:37 PM#38
Originally posted by skoreanime

Someone who finally understands that what we have in open beta will essentially be the same at launch with a few negligible differences like content.  We've been playing the core mechanics of the game and that's not something that will change in just two weeks.  Meat and potatoes!

 

FFXIV open beta = demo.  That's fact, and people not agreeing with that are rose tinted glasses fanboys.  This is what XIV has to offer at launch, and it will be virtually the same in its lifetime.  There will be the usual MMO updates with major patches and expansions, but it will, at its core, be the same game.

 I've said this in another post but will repeat here.  If this were any other game from any other developer I would agree with you entirely.  For the vast majority of games since the dawn of the modern mmo (around 2004 or so) the open beta part of the testing phase was really more of a free demo to try to entire people into their game.

In this case I have to disagree.  Square-Enix is notorious for doing things their way, the traditional way and no amount of peer pressure (if you will) is going to change that.  They don't care what every other developer does, they're just guna do it their way and we all have to deal with it.  This is both good and refreshing, and bad and annoying.

In this case, the open beta actually and legitimately means a server stress test and whatever other bits of info a developer gleans out of having a ton of people running about their game all willy nilly.

This entire post is based off the Open Beta=Demo and this is how it's going to be mentality.  Which doesn't apply (this time).  Yes, the UI is going to be terrible, but the FPS will be better as they remove the debug code.  The content in open beta is laughable, yet had the poster looked at all sources he would have seen that the beta manual states that only a very small percentage of what will be available in the release is going to be available to the beta.  Given Square-Enix's reputation it's entirely conceivable that there's even race, class & customization options we haven't even been allowed to see, or entire CHUNKS of content that they didn't feel needed any kind of stress testing (By this I mean Player housing as an example).

I know it's not our style here at the MMORPG community to look at things with a balanced eye, it's far more entertaining to unleash our negative outputs and put a faux-unbiased face on, however if you're going to claim to review something then you have to have all information available, well you SHOULD have all information available in order to be taken seriously.

Currently reviewing FFXIV is akin to reviewing a movie you've only seen the opening credits to.

  Honeymoon69

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9/13/10 5:38:04 PM#39
what no miracle patch?
  grapevine

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9/13/10 5:38:41 PM#40

Seems you need to wake up, from the dream.

 

SE are no different to any other developer.  The only other MMO they have produced is FF XI, so you have absolutely nothing to found those claims on.

 

Open beta is not stress testing.  They've already done stress tests, and informed us when they were taking place.  Open beta is there to continue testing the whole game, other than the locked story arc.

 

One isn't going to wake up on launch day, and discover a new game.

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