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  Sertii

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Joined: 6/28/10
Posts: 52

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9/12/10 11:22:03 AM#41

my advice for you, is to find another game. Seriously, once you actually get all that gear, what is there left to do? Kill the lich king? for what? more gear? and when you have top notch gear, what are you going to do then? Exactly - nothing. You wait till the next expansion comes out wich renders all of your gear completely useless, and the cycle keeps going on. I mean the gameplay itself isnt even fun in pve. All you do, is stand behind a boss, hit your 4-5 buttons and 1-2 cooldowns now and then, along with the occasional, move out of gas/fire/meteor/other element. The community is one of the worst in any game. The game gets even more community unfriendly with each patch, and the whole game just doens't work anymore. It feels more like a lobby-based game, with everyone just waiting around dalaran for the raid summon or the dungeon invite, and trust me, this will only get worse.

Just ask yourselves... Why do i still play?

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  whilan

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9/12/10 5:21:04 PM#42
Originally posted by Sertii

my advice for you, is to find another game. Seriously, once you actually get all that gear, what is there left to do? Kill the lich king? for what? more gear? and when you have top notch gear, what are you going to do then? Exactly - nothing. You wait till the next expansion comes out wich renders all of your gear completely useless, and the cycle keeps going on. I mean the gameplay itself isnt even fun in pve. All you do, is stand behind a boss, hit your 4-5 buttons and 1-2 cooldowns now and then, along with the occasional, move out of gas/fire/meteor/other element. The community is one of the worst in any game. The game gets even more community unfriendly with each patch, and the whole game just doens't work anymore. It feels more like a lobby-based game, with everyone just waiting around dalaran for the raid summon or the dungeon invite, and trust me, this will only get worse.

Just ask yourselves... Why do i still play?

What is surprising is i started to notice the same thing in EQ around it's 6 or 7 year mark. The community went downhill and it was all about getting the next big piece.  Though it never got as bad as the WoW community, although as i only heard that from others i can't judge on the community itself. But the surprising thing to me is that this seems to be normal for MMOs. they do great (at least the good ones) at the start and as time goes on, i guess the community gets bored and it starts to degrade.

Maybe this is a self implanted mechanic to say the game has run it's course? Sure it can stay alive but this is to make sure something doesn't last forever and makes room for other newer things?

Just seems odd to me.

FYI i'm in no way saying the game should die, it can live for as long as it likes in my opinion, just noting an interesting similarity in long run games.

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  Aeroangel

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9/13/10 6:52:13 AM#43

If you want to raid you get in a guild. It's as simple as that, and it's pretty much always been as simple as that. Pugs generally look for people that severely over gear an instance, because it's a PuG! You have less chance of having someone in all greens with a bad spec who has never stepped foot in a raid or whatever when you look for a high gear score. I'm not defending gear score, I detest it personally, but that's why people use it for PuGs, or armory, or wow-heroes, /inspect, what have you. 

 

If you join a guild that isn't like the top guild on your server or something ridiculous, just like a middle of the road progression guild for ICC 10 or 25, then you'll get a nice little raid spot and you just have to show up once a week or whatnot and do your job, you'll probably get geared fairly quick if you are consistent enough in showing up and if you actually have skill. And then before you know it you can either keep raiding with said guild (which in my opinion would be the obvious answer, especially if it's a group of chill folks who are fun to be around) or you could run out and PuG it up with your new gear score. 

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  Rydeson

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Joined: 3/05/07
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9/13/10 7:41:34 AM#44
Originally posted by Aeroangel

If you want to raid you get in a guild. It's as simple as that, and it's pretty much always been as simple as that.  Really?  I've been in 2 raiding guilds in WoW and in both, as I'm sure happens in 90% of the guilds out there, there are cliques inside each one..  There are the "primary" team that does their thing and ID's themselves.. If you are the 11th or 15th or 27th person to a raid you'll always be a bench warmer.. WAITING for a primary raider not show up on a given night..  Which seldom happens.. Belonging to a guild NEVER guarantees you a raid spot..  Pugs generally look for people that severely over gear an instance, because it's a PuG! You have less chance of having someone in all greens with a bad spec who has never stepped foot in a raid or whatever when you look for a high gear score. I'm not defending gear score, I detest it personally, but that's why people use it for PuGs, or armory, or wow-heroes, /inspect, what have you. 

 

If you join a guild that isn't like the top guild on your server or something ridiculous, just like a middle of the road progression guild for ICC 10 or 25, then you'll get a nice little raid spot and you just have to show up once a week or whatnot and do your job, you'll probably get geared fairly quick if you are consistent enough in showing up and if you actually have skill. And then before you know it you can either keep raiding with said guild (which in my opinion would be the obvious answer, especially if it's a group of chill folks who are fun to be around) or you could run out and PuG it up with your new gear score.  In your case that MIGHT be the situation, however my experience as well as surfing the WoW armory, that is NOT the case :)  A vast majority of the guild hoppers are due to the fact that people are tired of cliques running the raids, and everyone else has to take a number and wait..  I have NEVER heard or witness a raiding guild that promotes a "maditory" rotation of raiders..  What I mean by maditiory rotation is that on 10 mans, you can have the 7 experience raiders while filling in 3 others from the guild wanting a piece of the action as well.. HENSE breaking up the high school clique raiding.. 

If anyone responds with a "there are guilds that do that, just look for them".. need to give us exact guild names and server they are on.. and I will gladly contact them to verify that is guild policy :)

  Robokapp

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Joined: 11/15/09
Posts: 5257

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9/13/10 7:54:28 AM#45

I want to clarify one thing about GS:

 

I have it and it shows me the names of people who are feeding me their scanned data. So i know pretty much everyone has it. There is a golden rule which says "dont talk about GS". And these people arent recruiting based on it but they do have it in their posession as well.

 

for me, for example, the in-game armory is the main feature I use. I'm working on my offspec so I type /gs <name> of a few people who i know that play that spec as their main, and I see their armory in-game. no browsing through websites, just a 5-second string of text. no tabbing back and forth...shift-click and i compare his item with mine.

 

GS is...bad in the hands of bads. like any tool or powertool in the hands of an asylum patient for example. But the tool is also very useful if used correctly. It's not a weed-out scoreboard, it's a gear-inspection tool. It's not very smart, it only understands the quality of gear, it does not understand appropriateness. But some of its other features are quite nice.

 

aside from the in-game armory you can tell it to list classes or guild members, so you can for example inspect the top-10 geared hunters in the server and decide which 4 pieces of tier to use. (by cross-examining). Or look for what weapon enchants the paladin tanks choose most frequently. Or what second trinket. Finally you can set it to show you below each iem how it'll affect you. by mouse-over'ing a new piece of plate you can see in green text +125 armor +22 stamina +32 dodge and in red -32 expertise -22 parry -2 strength.

 

anyway. most people dont think the addon does more than a number. blame the people. that's not how the tool's intended to be used.

  unbound55

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Joined: 8/03/09
Posts: 328

9/13/10 7:54:50 AM#46
Originally posted by Rydeson
Originally posted by Aeroangel

If you want to raid you get in a guild. It's as simple as that, and it's pretty much always been as simple as that.  Really?  I've been in 2 raiding guilds in WoW and in both, as I'm sure happens in 90% of the guilds out there, there are cliques inside each one..  There are the "primary" team that does their thing and ID's themselves.. If you are the 11th or 15th or 27th person to a raid you'll always be a bench warmer.. WAITING for a primary raider not show up on a given night..  Which seldom happens.. Belonging to a guild NEVER guarantees you a raid spot..  Pugs generally look for people that severely over gear an instance, because it's a PuG! You have less chance of having someone in all greens with a bad spec who has never stepped foot in a raid or whatever when you look for a high gear score. I'm not defending gear score, I detest it personally, but that's why people use it for PuGs, or armory, or wow-heroes, /inspect, what have you. 

 

If you join a guild that isn't like the top guild on your server or something ridiculous, just like a middle of the road progression guild for ICC 10 or 25, then you'll get a nice little raid spot and you just have to show up once a week or whatnot and do your job, you'll probably get geared fairly quick if you are consistent enough in showing up and if you actually have skill. And then before you know it you can either keep raiding with said guild (which in my opinion would be the obvious answer, especially if it's a group of chill folks who are fun to be around) or you could run out and PuG it up with your new gear score.  In your case that MIGHT be the situation, however my experience as well as surfing the WoW armory, that is NOT the case :)  A vast majority of the guild hoppers are due to the fact that people are tired of cliques running the raids, and everyone else has to take a number and wait..  I have NEVER heard or witness a raiding guild that promotes a "maditory" rotation of raiders..  What I mean by maditiory rotation is that on 10 mans, you can have the 7 experience raiders while filling in 3 others from the guild wanting a piece of the action as well.. HENSE breaking up the high school clique raiding.. 

If anyone responds with a "there are guilds that do that, just look for them".. need to give us exact guild names and server they are on.. and I will gladly contact them to verify that is guild policy :)

Actually, I ran my guild that way (mandatory rotations)...unfortunately, back when I played WoW several years ago.  The problem I would run into is that a number of people got upset that they weren't in every run (no matter how many times I explained to them that it is only fair to rotate).  In several cases, my guild got used to gear people up who then left to join larger raiding guilds.

 

When dealing with people, there just isn't a perfect scenario.  Whether leadership or guild members, there will always be issues.  Find a guild that works well enough, or start your own, are really the only solutions.

  Daffid011

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Joined: 1/03/04
Posts: 7920

9/13/10 7:55:49 AM#47
Originally posted by Rydeson
Originally posted by Aeroangel

If you want to raid you get in a guild. It's as simple as that, and it's pretty much always been as simple as that.  [1] Really?  I've been in 2 raiding guilds in WoW and in both, as I'm sure happens in 90% of the guilds out there, there are cliques inside each one..  There are the "primary" team that does their thing and ID's themselves.. If you are the 11th or 15th or 27th person to a raid you'll always be a bench warmer.. WAITING for a primary raider not show up on a given night..  Which seldom happens.. Belonging to a guild NEVER guarantees you a raid spot..  In your case that MIGHT be the situation, however my experience as well as surfing the WoW armory, that is NOT the case :)  A vast majority of the guild hoppers are due to the fact that people are tired of cliques running the raids, and everyone else has to take a number and wait..  I have NEVER heard or witness a raiding guild that promotes a "maditory" rotation of raiders..  What I mean by maditiory rotation is that on 10 mans, you can have the 7 experience raiders while filling in 3 others from the guild wanting a piece of the action as well.. HENSE breaking up the high school clique raiding.. 

[2] In your case that MIGHT be the situation, however my experience as well as surfing the WoW armory, that is NOT the case :)  A vast majority of the guild hoppers are due to the fact that people are tired of cliques running the raids, and everyone else has to take a number and wait..  I have NEVER heard or witness a raiding guild that promotes a "maditory" rotation of raiders..  What I mean by maditiory rotation is that on 10 mans, you can have the 7 experience raiders while filling in 3 others from the guild wanting a piece of the action as well.. HENSE breaking up the high school clique raiding.. 

If anyone responds with a "there are guilds that do that, just look for them".. need to give us exact guild names and server they are on.. and I will gladly contact them to verify that is guild policy :)

[1]

So, being in a guild doesn't guarentee a raid spot, but you claim the same 10 guildmemebers in a "clique" have a permanent spot in the raid every week.   Priceless.

 

 

[2]

So you gleen some special insight as to why people hop guilds, because you surf the armory?  Again, priceless.

 

 

  Daffid011

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9/13/10 7:59:37 AM#48
Originally posted by outfctrl

ok, I have been playing since release, not steady, but playing off and on.  My company layed me off for a few months so I was bored and started an Orc Hunter.  Got him to 80 pretty quick. Now, my gear score is only 4989, no one lets me into the 10 and 25 man.

So everyday I log in, get my two frosts (5 man) and do a few more for Triumph emblems, then log out.  Anyone have any suggestions to relieve my coming up boredom?  What else can I do to get with the big boys or just have fun again?  I am back to work now and dont have allot of free time.

 

Thanks all

If you are having trouble getting into someone elses raid, start your own.  Wow is filled with people from every walk of life and I'm sure you can find 9 other like minded players to fill out a raid with. 

Put up a message on your server forum with what you are looking for and the playstyle you prefer. 

  Dmyankee

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Joined: 6/29/07
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9/13/10 8:06:19 AM#49

I still play world of warcraft ... right now i have walked away from raiding and playing on my 80s because of the vicious cycle mentioned. The thing is that I pug raids now since my guild consists of 4 people (Wife, and 3 RL Friends). that is it it is a choice we made. The biggest reason i walked away from raiding was in november last year, but i came back to the game in may it is funny how people depend so much on GS ... but when i run randoms (and i did run a lot of randoms) I would out dps players that were up to 300 gs pts higher than me (at the time i had 4770) it has gotten a little better now. But sadly, i have not raided since ulduar i have watched the fights but getting into ICC or TOC (both pugged frequently on Scarlet Crusade) since i have not actually done the fights ... is a vicious circle. So i am just waiting on cataclysm and getting to 85 on my DK and going from there.

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  Robokapp

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9/13/10 8:07:37 AM#50

I have NEVER heard or witness a raiding guild that promotes a "maditory" rotation of raiders..  What I mean by maditiory rotation is that on 10 mans, you can have the 7 experience raiders while filling in 3 others from the guild wanting a piece of the action as well.. HENSE breaking up the high school clique raiding.. 

If anyone responds with a "there are guilds that do that, just look for them".. need to give us exact guild names and server they are on.. and I will gladly contact them to verify that is guild policy :)

 

 

 

Colossus-Greymane. My guild. I'm the recruiting officer. We make wishlists of the items we want, before each boss on farm we swap in all the people who need loot if possible. If make-up doesnt allow us to, we decide who's highest on DKP therefore most likely to win the item. You gain DKP for being online, even if not on your main or in raid, so if you sit out you can level an alt and be on vent in case you're needed.

 

for progression we swap people in every hour so everyone sees the fight and learns it at the same pace. We have a large roster, of 38 people, and raid space is only 25. so 14 people will sit. but not longer than one hour every 2 hours.

 

Of course there are people who perform better than others, players who show a higher aptitude towards some tasks so they get priority in the interest of progression. Upon succesfully killing a boss, next week the other people get priority. If some obviously cant execute their role, they get swapped back out, and we try again next week with those who missed it last 2 weeks.

 

How succesful is such a guild? hardmode 11/12 in 10 and 25man with hardmode halion 10man killed and both Icecrown meta mounts... Nothing impressive but nothing to be ashamed of either.

 

my character is named Robokapp and plays in US-Greymane. look me up if you don't believe me. If you want the guild website, it's Colossalguild.net

 

yes "they do exist" indeed.

 

edit: if you're a hardmode-experienced (ideally 9/12+) kingslayer resto shaman, mage or dps warrior or dps dk we want you. Wed 7-11 Thu 9-11 Sun 7-11 Mon 7-11 CST.

  Rydeson

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9/13/10 10:46:11 AM#51
Originally posted by Daffid011
Originally posted by Rydeson
Originally posted by Aeroangel

If you want to raid you get in a guild. It's as simple as that, and it's pretty much always been as simple as that.  [1] Really?  I've been in 2 raiding guilds in WoW and in both, as I'm sure happens in 90% of the guilds out there, there are cliques inside each one..  There are the "primary" team that does their thing and ID's themselves.. If you are the 11th or 15th or 27th person to a raid you'll always be a bench warmer.. WAITING for a primary raider not show up on a given night..  Which seldom happens.. Belonging to a guild NEVER guarantees you a raid spot..  In your case that MIGHT be the situation, however my experience as well as surfing the WoW armory, that is NOT the case :)  A vast majority of the guild hoppers are due to the fact that people are tired of cliques running the raids, and everyone else has to take a number and wait..  I have NEVER heard or witness a raiding guild that promotes a "maditory" rotation of raiders..  What I mean by maditiory rotation is that on 10 mans, you can have the 7 experience raiders while filling in 3 others from the guild wanting a piece of the action as well.. HENSE breaking up the high school clique raiding.. 

[2] In your case that MIGHT be the situation, however my experience as well as surfing the WoW armory, that is NOT the case :)  A vast majority of the guild hoppers are due to the fact that people are tired of cliques running the raids, and everyone else has to take a number and wait..  I have NEVER heard or witness a raiding guild that promotes a "maditory" rotation of raiders..  What I mean by maditiory rotation is that on 10 mans, you can have the 7 experience raiders while filling in 3 others from the guild wanting a piece of the action as well.. HENSE breaking up the high school clique raiding.. 

If anyone responds with a "there are guilds that do that, just look for them".. need to give us exact guild names and server they are on.. and I will gladly contact them to verify that is guild policy :)

[1]

So, being in a guild doesn't guarentee a raid spot, but you claim the same 10 guildmemebers in a "clique" have a permanent spot in the raid every week.   Priceless.  (you must be lost.. do explain.. lol )

 

 

[2]

So you gleen some special insight as to why people hop guilds, because you surf the armory?  Again, priceless.

 (maybe you missed the memo,, but the armoy records latest boss kills.. When a vast number of guilds show the same clique always getting the run, and kills while other members are told to sit and wait..  A vast majority of guilds fall in this categoy).. However I will have to say, TY to Robo for posting his guild, which is one of the few select that use the DK system..  On  my main server there are only 2 guilds that I'm aware of that use the DK system fairly and both have so many members, they are not accepting apps.. 

BTW Robo.. I know proper DKP guilds do exist out there.. Just that they are rare and most never belong to one.. I haven't been in one since my EQ1 days.. How I miss those raids.. they were the best..

 

  Daffid011

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9/13/10 11:15:45 AM#52
Originally posted by Rydeson

[1]

So, being in a guild doesn't guarentee a raid spot, but you claim the same 10 guildmemebers in a "clique" have a permanent spot in the raid every week.   Priceless.  (you must be lost.. do explain.. lol )

 

 

[2]

So you gleen some special insight as to why people hop guilds, because you surf the armory?  Again, priceless.

 (maybe you missed the memo,, but the armoy records latest boss kills.. When a vast number of guilds show the same clique always getting the run, and kills while other members are told to sit and wait..  A vast majority of guilds fall in this categoy).. However I will have to say, TY to Robo for posting his guild, which is one of the few select that use the DK system..  On  my main server there are only 2 guilds that I'm aware of that use the DK system fairly and both have so many members, they are not accepting apps.. 

BTW Robo.. I know proper DKP guilds do exist out there.. Just that they are rare and most never belong to one.. I haven't been in one since my EQ1 days.. How I miss those raids.. they were the best..

 

You talk about how being in a guild isn't a guarentee of a raid spot then you soapbox about how a select few people are guarenteed raid spots.  You contradict your whole argument all over the place. 

As for the armory, that is your assumption and nothing more.  You have no idea what people in those guilds are being told or even what they might ask for.  Then you state your opinions as if you represent the masses.  Saying people will ALWAYS be a bench warmer, 90% of guilds have cliques, primary raiders seldom don't show up, vast majority of guild hoppers this or that, NEVER heard of guilds with manditory rotations is just hyperbole.

Perhaps you just don't know as much as you think you do and surfing the armory and being in 2 guilds doesn't give you insight enough to speak on behalf of millions of other players as if you know their motivations and personal guild policies in the manner you claim to? 

 

As for me missing the memo, what did I miss?  I can log into wow any day of the week and find a raid that changes members almost weekly.  Every single day I can find multiple groups of people making new raids, looking for replacments or whatever.  There is nothing stopping any guild jumper from starting their own raid and finding 9 other people.  I've done it and it takes very little effort. 

 

You guys act like you are being prevented from doing something, because the evil cliques are blocking your path.  A little effort and some decent people skills go a long way to making your own way in an mmo. 

  Laughing-man

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9/13/10 11:21:07 AM#53
Originally posted by outfctrl

Actually, I think my gear is pretty strong, buit still I get kicked.  They are checking gear scores left and right now.  I do a shit load of damage and can hold my own in many situations and know how to play this guy.  Look at my toon.  Where is he messed up?  I cant figure it out.

WOW ARMORY

It is very frustrating.

Dunno if anyone answered this yet but...

CRAFTED GEAR!

There is a crafted chest, boots, wrists, and legs that you could be working toward, when I got my toon to 80 I grinded out all 4 of these crafted pieces.

Chest is 245 Wrists are 245

Boots are 264 and so are the legs.   

Combine all of those and your gear score will be like 5.3ish  which is what most people want for every raid.

  Phry

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9/13/10 11:22:08 AM#54

hate to say it, but in a way, WoW has encouraged this kind of thing... players get so used to having the game do everything for them, that when the time comes for them to be more proactive.. they're at a loss... maybe its just the way things are going in MMO's these days.... players who just sit and wait for things to happen... wheres the fun in that ? no wonder they complain about it.. i wonder how many (if any?) veteran MMO players have got themselves wedged into that kind of a rut?

  Rydeson

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9/13/10 3:56:47 PM#55

     Move along Daff.. your entire argument is epic fail.. We can dance around all day,, the FACT...... let me repeat.. the FACTS are that majority of the playerbase NEVER get an equal and fair chance at raiding because of guild drama and game design..  I know you're a huge fan of WoW and it stings when people don't agree wtih you..   Even the devs are aware that raiding is always in favor of the power raiders, and that most everyone else has to wait for table scraps.. You should read and watch more Dev interviews when they talk about raiding mechanics..  Anyways.. this is way OFF TOPIC..

  Daffid011

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9/14/10 9:04:36 AM#56

The "facts" are the majority of the playerbase NEVER gets a fair shake?  You sound like a scorned lover that can't accept that millions of other players are happily raiding things while you couldn't.

 

Like I suggested to the original poster, start your own raid.  It really could solve all of your complaints. 

If, like you said, the majority of the playerbase is screwed out of a raid spot by "power raiders" there should not be any trouble finding 9 other people to play with.  All it takes is a tiny bit of effort and a small amount of people skills.  Tell me how someone else can prevent you from doing that?  Otherwise join any of the number of pick up raids that are constantly seeking people to join them. 

 

I really don't care that you dislike wow.  Love or hate whatever games you chose, I could not care less.  However to listen to you toss out conspiracies of how some small subset of players are somehow keeping the majority of players locked out of content is just pure garbage.  Stop crying about what other players are not doing FOR you and go make it happen yourself.  Get off your ass, stop blaming everyone else and go make your own enjoyment happen.  It really is just that easy and no one can prevent you from grouping with 9 other players to do something.  Tons of other people are doing that exact thing right now and so can you if you chose to. 

  outfctrl

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OP  9/14/10 11:09:17 AM#57
Originally posted by Laughing-man
Originally posted by outfctrl

Actually, I think my gear is pretty strong, buit still I get kicked.  They are checking gear scores left and right now.  I do a shit load of damage and can hold my own in many situations and know how to play this guy.  Look at my toon.  Where is he messed up?  I cant figure it out.

WOW ARMORY

It is very frustrating.

Dunno if anyone answered this yet but...

CRAFTED GEAR!

There is a crafted chest, boots, wrists, and legs that you could be working toward, when I got my toon to 80 I grinded out all 4 of these crafted pieces.

Chest is 245 Wrists are 245

Boots are 264 and so are the legs.   

Combine all of those and your gear score will be like 5.3ish  which is what most people want for every raid.

When you said you were grinding to get these, were you talking about getting the gold to buy them on the auction house?

  glim3mer

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9/14/10 11:12:28 AM#58

There's no hope OP. You will always be passed for someone with more gear, even if you meet the gearscore minimum for 10 icc. Why have someone who can toss 6k dps, when you can easily bring someone who will toss 10k and is sending you tells asking you for invite... Like some have said, welcome to world of gearscore.

Only thing you can do, is farm for gold and do your daily heroic, then get your ilvl 264 boots and pants by crafting them (or getting them crafted for you) if you dont have the primordial saronites, you will essentially need 13 which will cost you around 8k gold for all of them. If you buy the crafted boots and pants, you will by then have enough for a atleast one tier 10 item. And then, you might get in, depends the server, how desperate they are, etc....

But even then, you aren't gonna impress anyone with 3 item level 264 items. So basically you will have dumped over 8k gold and weeks worth of frost emblems and you will still get passed. 

Other alternative is start sucking ass to some raid leaders like I know some real life friends of mine have done (no longer friends though, due to wow) and then they might give you a spot.

OR, just find another game! That's what I've done. Why sit and wait for blizzard to fix the major problems of this game when they aren't even listening to the players. WoW is like McDonalds, its fast food, but its not healthy.... literally. 

  Teala

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9/14/10 11:23:15 AM#59

Sounds like you are on a bad server.  Switch servers.   Also, you can break the 5k GS issue just wearing PvP gear and deal good DPS as a Hunter.   Run BG's, get honor, buy PvP gear.   That was how I did it on all my characters.   Works just fine.    After you break that 5k number then just run VOA's, Heroics, Weeklies and ICC's when you can.    Took me like 2 months to get all my PvE gear I'll ever need until Cat comes out.   Also, get with a guild.   That helps a lot.    Most guilds have raid times that they stick to and if you get into a good guild they will not care wht you are wearing - they will help you get gear.    Since I play odd hours I do not have the benefit of running with a big guild(our guild has two people in it - lol and we like it that way), but we have made alliances with guilds that we have friends in that let us tag along for ICC's raids and what not.   Make friends...that is key to getting really good gear.   ^_^  

  Loke666

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9/14/10 11:27:38 AM#60
Originally posted by outfctrl

ok, I have been playing since release, not steady, but playing off and on.  My company layed me off for a few months so I was bored and started an Orc Hunter.  Got him to 80 pretty quick. Now, my gear score is only 4989, no one lets me into the 10 and 25 man.

So everyday I log in, get my two frosts (5 man) and do a few more for Triumph emblems, then log out.  Anyone have any suggestions to relieve my coming up boredom?  What else can I do to get with the big boys or just have fun again?  I am back to work now and dont have allot of free time.

Thanks all

Well, you can join a large guild that actually do stuff, join up pugs or maybe it is time to try out another game.

The current thing seems like a big waste of time anyways.

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