My biggest gripe atm is the ui lag hopefully they'll fix it before launch.

Originally posted by Asm0deus

hmm my very 1st post here lol in fact i decided to make an account here at mmorpg becuase ive been looking for a single player mmo.  i currently play DDO with my wife but need something i can play without "waiting" for my lovely lady to join me etc etc

 

ive been a fan of FF since the very first one on the nes (gods wasnt it such a great reward finishing the game and seeing that credits and that nice "swamp" picture lol  )

 

anyhoot i been in FF14 open beta last 2 days . to get a key just keep trying over n over n over eevry few mins and eventually youll get thru.

 

whats worries me about this game is the method they use for "patching" how horrible i never got it to work , i had to goo looks on google for alternate DIRECT dl  methods. 15mins later found a ff14 site offering this and took the night to dl all the patches.

 

next day went back to that site followed the simple instruction n voila i was in !!!. i have to say i hate torrents ive always thought its a stupid way for a hgame to offer clients,patches etc torrents are the lower rung of the hiearchy in this kinda thing, add to this fact ALOT of ISP's cap torrents nowadays!!!!!

 

now in the game ithought graphics are GREAT looks like there finally gonna be an MMO where there actually a storyline  thats not just some ancient lore u read about at start of the game n then is completely ignored awsome they even add your toon in cutscenes as u created it COOL

now this is something ALL mmo could learn from square....

now on the other hand square could learn something from other mmos out there like ui ease of use etc i want to play this game i want to love this game but the way the ui works is just very very annoying to me .

 

i dont mind all the menus for evrything what i do despise is the lag on waiting for a window to open then for the next one to open n then u finallly get what u want to buy for example n cant close them all at once , u cant just run out of range etc . another thing if u use the mouse and click at bottom right of screen on the icon for main menu  do your thing and then u cant just click on same icon to close it oo noooes u have to click the annoyingly small x that easy to miss at top right of the open window.

so the game will be good i think if only they can fix up some small details . i cant speak for anyone else but all these small details add up and is what makes or breaks a game for me.  i have to add i play sarlona (i think its spelled like this lol ) and in 2 days of playing i saw 3 people help other out in public chat, myself being one person that helped anouther find his way out of town. Have to admit i was kinda disappointed in the FF community as there was plenty of people around just no one could be bothered to help out .

 

this is open beta so hopefully they will fix some stuff  but as is i will not play this game when it comes live, i will not pay to buy the game and then pay a monthly fee as it is now . perhaps if i had a ps3 i might as its obvious SE made this as a console game first and pc game second otherwise they would have made it with friendlier pc player mechanics..

 last thing combat is really slow but this is a FF game not  ZELDA game so :P

 

so its not a horrible game its very pretty and im sure some people will love it n play it as it is now but i think many wont but then like i said early this is open beta hiope fully some stuff will be adressed then again maybe it wont time will tell . my guess would be to look to FF11 players n see what SE track record is with them ? i never played that one so...

 

i think the lack of people chatting or helping out in chat is a lot of people are actually using gamepads instead of keyboard i imagine it would be a pain to put down the gamepad to pick up keyboard and type. than pick gamepad back up. But I use just the keyboard to play and am having a lot of fun in game. yes the ui is slow and laggy but it is the only UI that allows me to play using only the keyboard the way i like to play the most. FFXI introduced me to playing this way and i have been disapointed in every other game that i had to use the mouse and couldn't map my keys to hte point that i didn't need to use the mouse. 

Originally posted by xpiher

You do realize that the only reason why FFXI was "complete" for the international release* was because it came with the first expansion? 

lol xipher are you quitting darkfall for FFXIV?  

But you're right most people don't realize that the game came out on PS2 in Japan a year before that.. FFXIV as far as development goes is LIGHTYEARS ahead of FFXI @ beta when I played it.  I have played FFXI since then.. i can't freaking wait for this release(did play some darkfall too for my pvp fix).  

Originally posted by segyn

Originally posted by Asm0deus

hmm my very 1st post here lol in fact i decided to make an account here at mmorpg becuase ive been looking for a single player mmo.  i currently play DDO with my wife but need something i can play without "waiting" for my lovely lady to join me etc etc

 

ive been a fan of FF since the very first one on the nes (gods wasnt it such a great reward finishing the game and seeing that credits and that nice "swamp" picture lol  )

 

anyhoot i been in FF14 open beta last 2 days . to get a key just keep trying over n over n over eevry few mins and eventually youll get thru.

 

whats worries me about this game is the method they use for "patching" how horrible i never got it to work , i had to goo looks on google for alternate DIRECT dl  methods. 15mins later found a ff14 site offering this and took the night to dl all the patches.

 

next day went back to that site followed the simple instruction n voila i was in !!!. i have to say i hate torrents ive always thought its a stupid way for a hgame to offer clients,patches etc torrents are the lower rung of the hiearchy in this kinda thing, add to this fact ALOT of ISP's cap torrents nowadays!!!!!

 

now in the game ithought graphics are GREAT looks like there finally gonna be an MMO where there actually a storyline  thats not just some ancient lore u read about at start of the game n then is completely ignored awsome they even add your toon in cutscenes as u created it COOL

now this is something ALL mmo could learn from square....

now on the other hand square could learn something from other mmos out there like ui ease of use etc i want to play this game i want to love this game but the way the ui works is just very very annoying to me .

 

i dont mind all the menus for evrything what i do despise is the lag on waiting for a window to open then for the next one to open n then u finallly get what u want to buy for example n cant close them all at once , u cant just run out of range etc . another thing if u use the mouse and click at bottom right of screen on the icon for main menu  do your thing and then u cant just click on same icon to close it oo noooes u have to click the annoyingly small x that easy to miss at top right of the open window.

so the game will be good i think if only they can fix up some small details . i cant speak for anyone else but all these small details add up and is what makes or breaks a game for me.  i have to add i play sarlona (i think its spelled like this lol ) and in 2 days of playing i saw 3 people help other out in public chat, myself being one person that helped anouther find his way out of town. Have to admit i was kinda disappointed in the FF community as there was plenty of people around just no one could be bothered to help out .

 

this is open beta so hopefully they will fix some stuff  but as is i will not play this game when it comes live, i will not pay to buy the game and then pay a monthly fee as it is now . perhaps if i had a ps3 i might as its obvious SE made this as a console game first and pc game second otherwise they would have made it with friendlier pc player mechanics..

 last thing combat is really slow but this is a FF game not  ZELDA game so :P

 

so its not a horrible game its very pretty and im sure some people will love it n play it as it is now but i think many wont but then like i said early this is open beta hiope fully some stuff will be adressed then again maybe it wont time will tell . my guess would be to look to FF11 players n see what SE track record is with them ? i never played that one so...

 

i think the lack of people chatting or helping out in chat is a lot of people are actually using gamepads instead of keyboard i imagine it would be a pain to put down the gamepad to pick up keyboard and type. than pick gamepad back up. But I use just the keyboard to play and am having a lot of fun in game. yes the ui is slow and laggy but it is the only UI that allows me to play using only the keyboard the way i like to play the most. FFXI introduced me to playing this way and i have been disapointed in every other game that i had to use the mouse and couldn't map my keys to hte point that i didn't need to use the mouse. 

Everyone chats in linkshell.  Public isn't the place to chat.  It's probably more a Japanese thing then it is a Controller thing.  I have a wireless keyboard in my lap and chat with my linkshell all the time =/  Its the same way in FFXI.  Talk in /tells use shouts for Seeking for parties for events or what not, get help from your linkshell.  No one talks in /say like in the barons in FFXI.  If you're in party you use party chat.  Just the way it is. Get use to it.

and talking in shout is considered rude.  Most of the japanese people will even apologize for using /shout at all.

Christmas might be too early of a release for the game at this point. Major improvments are needed. Good luck to them. I live in Tokyo so I should go to the office and just ask them, "what the hell is going on?"

The only piece of advice I can give to people experiencing major lag is to take the time to adjust your graphics settings. Turning off Ambient Occlusion first was my start and it took care of 90% of my character lag. As far as the server lag, that's an entirely different issue.

"It's still in beta" doesn't cut it anymore. Why would they release the OPEN Beta so close to release date? Are they going to pull an all nighter to fix everything, add more content? 

The OB is pretty much the final product with a few content not released yet. "Patches"

Open Beta started the First of September. Release date is the 22nd of September. The early access is like what? A week before offical release?

The game isn't developed and lts really close to release date.

Originally posted by Hyanmen

Which is too bad. 

I can see how the conversation went in SE HQ:

"So, director, how far in development is the game?"

"Well, we are getting there, bu.."

"Good, good. Are all the features in place and functioning for release?"

"Well, yes, but they're not nearly rea-"

"That is great to hear. Are the servers holding up?"

"Yes, bare-"

"Good. Get ready to release the game in 2 months."

"That's not a very good id-"

"Silence, do not put your family to shame."

 

Unfortunately that means more waiting for me. The game is probably finished sometime in 2011. 

[Mod Edit]

I LOL'd at this lol

I'm not too happy with the game at the moment and I already paid for it in full, I guess I'll take it and if it dont get better I'll just have to live with that loss.

Originally posted by Hyanmen

Originally posted by SaintViktor

The game has some glitches but for the most part it is completely playable and in decent order. 

Which is why it's released now and not when it's ready.

It's going to take it a year at least before it gets really good. 

This forum will be a huge pain in the ass before that happens. GL to some of you.

 Ok saying it needs a year is really an over exaggeration. No doubt they could use an extra month or 2 to clean up some stuff but I dont think that will be stopping many from buying it on launch day. Alot are playing everyday and seem to be having fun. My entire company I am in will be there at launch day 1 like alot of other companies will be. No doubt I see some patches in the first month of launch being issued.

Can someone tell me if the UI in FF XI is slow and laggish as it is in FF XIV? Does it take forever to scroll down a list or display server-side information?

Originally posted by Ikkei

Can someone tell me if the UI in FF XI is slow and laggish as it is in FF XIV? Does it take forever to scroll down a list or display server-side information?

It most certainly is not. FFXI is a great game, smooth transitions through menus and controls and battle settup actually better.

I noticed people making comparisons to other betas in this thread (Warhammer, Vanguard, AoC being popular ones).

Being that I've played in many betas (not Vanguard, but have played in closed betas of Warhammer and Age of Conan) I can tell you for me personally that both Age of Conan's and Warhammer's betas were MUCH more playable for me.  Not only do I receive consistent crashes, frame rate issues, (changing graphic's settings do not help, the problem here is my processor, FFXIV refuses to make full use of my graphic cards), and game breaking bugs, but as a programmer I see lots of faults with the system other people probably wouldn't realize.  I've had a bug where I couldn't resurrect my character, because I happened to be returning as I was killed, which now renders that character completely unplayable without GM intervention or a level 38 Tham. 

It wasn't the worst beta I've played in.  I've had far worse experiences like Anarachy Online, but it is a lot worse than most betas.  That's just my personal experience, but a lot of people within my linkshell are having similar problems, causing them to log off for night.  For a beta, it's also very odd we have absolutely no means to report feedback or bugs, since SE only let a select few testers in older versions report feedback.  Let's hope the JP players are doing a good job sending feedback, concerns, and bug reports on issues they encounter.

That said I still haven't lost hope in the game.  I don't expect it to be in a good state on release, but I'm guessing by the time the PS3 release rolls around the game should be in pretty good shape and fun to play.  In the meantime we have the opportunity to level our jobs up and be far ahead of those who waited till PS3 release.

Originally posted by Scripture1

Originally posted by Ikkei

Can someone tell me if the UI in FF XI is slow and laggish as it is in FF XIV? Does it take forever to scroll down a list or display server-side information?

It most certainly is not. FFXI is a great game, smooth transitions through menus and controls and battle settup actually better.

That is statement that bears hope for the future improvement of FF XIV. Hopefully down the road, it will be as smooth. Let's just hope that it's sooner rather than later.

All I can say about the game so far is it has been the most difficult to download. I have not even been able to test it. 

The FFXIV Official Benchmark is one of the best CPU benchmarking programs, it seems. And the game isn't much different.

It's wonderful making this discovery right after you bought a second video card and new PSU in anticipation of this game, and crying. Oh well, the new PSU comes in tomorrow, so I'll be slapping her in to power my dual 5770s. Hoping for the best.

P.S., even if it really is so dependent on the CPU.. I have an i7 930, so it shouldn't be giving me half the trouble that it is... sigh. SE has just completely botched this, as far as programming goes.

Originally posted by Plutarch

The FFXIV Official Benchmark is one of the best CPU benchmarking programs, it seems. And the game isn't much different.

 

It's wonderful making this discovery right after you bought a second video card and new PSU in anticipation of this game, and crying. Oh well, the new PSU comes in tomorrow, so I'll be slapping her in to power my dual 5770s. Hoping for the best.

 

 

P.S., even if it really is so dependent on the CPU.. I have an i7 930, so it shouldn't be giving me half the trouble that it is... sigh. SE has just completely botched this, as far as programming goes.

im sure the game is being made with the cell processor in mind, considering the PS3 version of the game is going to be the landslide popular version for the game in japan (this games largest market)...... therefore, current PC tech is probably ill equipped to handle what the game is doing, considering the cell has 8 cores, and at most you can have 4 in todays MAINSTREAM processors.

that isnt an excuse.... it should have been developed independently for the PC so it ran well.... but that clearly isnt the case.

all of that aside, the game doesnt run THAT BAD. come on guys, i have an E8400 which is dual core and i run the game maxed out and it is very playable. there is a lot of stuttering, which is an optimization issue, but it is still playable..... stop complaining because you are getting 40 FPS instead of 60.....

Originally posted by Hyanmen

Which is too bad. 

I can see how the conversation went in SE HQ:

"So, director, how far in development is the game?"

"Well, we are getting there, bu.."

"Good, good. Are all the features in place and functioning for release?"

"Well, yes, but they're not nearly rea-"

"That is great to hear. Are the servers holding up?"

"Yes, bare-"

"Good. Get ready to release the game in 2 months."

"That's not a very good id-"

"Silence, do not put your family to shame."

 

Unfortunately that means more waiting for me. The game is probably finished sometime in 2011. 

[Mod Edit]

 I have to admit coming from you this does give me pause.  I know you're a fairly big FF fan.

Originally posted by Ashlinde
come on guys, i have an E8400 which is dual core and i run the game maxed out and it is very playable. there is a lot of stuttering, which is an optimization issue, but it is still playable..... stop complaining because you are getting 40 FPS instead of 60.....

I highly doubt your running this game on maxed, mind giving me more of your specs and fps?

kinda hard to accept this, considering one small fact:  The game is not yet released.

I'm not sure what the deal is with the UI and "lag". Crafting is an absolute chore for me because of it. I'd say it takes a good minute to set up a consigned craft (leve?). Scrolling through my mats to put on my retainer is also insanely slow. Setting the retainer up for bazaar is infuriatingly slow. It is defintely something to do with communicating with the server though. (my R can spike to 947 while my S stays around 20-30)