Kingons are starting to get a little antsy:

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=177603

They are just now (slow learners arent' they) figuring out that they are second rate citizens to Cryptic.  Some are finally waking up to the fact that it's federation or the welfare line.

Funny

1. No Klingon Content
2. Constant nerfing of Klingon vessels
3. Stagnant PvP
4. Lack of  Klingon PvE
5. Poor Game mechanics
6. No Interest in playing Feddy
7. Cryptic constant catering to Feddy
8. Recognition that this game had become a cheap money grab.

These are the reasons I left STO, I'll just hope that it fails miseribly at this point. I'd rather not wait 10 years for another attempt at a Star Trek MMO. I'd be happy if Blizzard ( owns Activision ) at least attempted another variation of SFC series. For all the issues SFC 3 had it was at least fun.

Originally posted by AG-Vuk

1. No Klingon Content
2. Constant nerfing of Klingon vessels
3. Stagnant PvP
4. Lack of  Klingon PvE
5. Poor Game mechanics
6. No Interest in playing Feddy
7. Cryptic constant catering to Feddy
8. Recognition that this game had become a cheap money grab.

These are the reasons I left STO, I'll just hope that it fails miseribly at this point. I'd rather not wait 10 years for another attempt at a Star Trek MMO. I'd be happy if Blizzard ( owns Activision ) at least attempted another variation of SFC series. For all the issues SFC 3 had it was at least fun.

Blizzard doesn't own Activision. Blizzard and Activision are both owned by Vivendi Entertainment.

Originally posted by AG-Vuk

1. No Klingon Content
2. Constant nerfing of Klingon vessels
3. Stagnant PvP
4. Lack of  Klingon PvE
5. Poor Game mechanics
6. No Interest in playing Feddy
7. Cryptic constant catering to Feddy
8. Recognition that this game had become a cheap money grab.

These are the reasons I left STO

Agreed 100%.

They seem a tad touchy over at Cryptic at the moment .

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=177603

Notice "Closed "

To my first post I should add , STO wasn't an MMO it was a single player , with everyone playing in one instance.

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by AG-Vuk

1. No Klingon Content
2. Constant nerfing of Klingon vessels
3. Stagnant PvP
4. Lack of  Klingon PvE
5. Poor Game mechanics
6. No Interest in playing Feddy
7. Cryptic constant catering to Feddy
8. Recognition that this game had become a cheap money grab.

These are the reasons I left STO, I'll just hope that it fails miseribly at this point. I'd rather not wait 10 years for another attempt at a Star Trek MMO. I'd be happy if Blizzard ( owns Activision ) at least attempted another variation of SFC series. For all the issues SFC 3 had it was at least fun.

Blizzard doesn't own Activision. Blizzard and Activision are both owned by Vivendi Entertainment.

 Yes you are correct .  They are part of a congolmerate. http://www.activisionblizzard.com/corp/index.html

I don't understand why they don't just allow Federation and Klingon ships on both sides, I mean there were some Klingons that were loyal to the federation still, and there were also hijacked federation ships. I mean that way both sides can benefit from new ships they release- I mean if we have to pay for it, might as bloody well allow both sides to have it.

And then give each side its own Quest content so that they are unique in some way. I just think the way it is now is too cookie cutter- so eventually everyone will just be flying the "Best" ship they can get. Cryptic are so full of shit when they talk about Customization.. If I want to be flying a Miranda class against the Federation like Kahn.. I should be able to! /Rant

In other news, I bet Klingon content will suck just as much as Fed content. UGC might be the only thing going for the game.

Originally posted by Mr_Cyberpunk

I don't understand why they don't just allow Federation and Klingon ships on both sides

Probably because it totally goes against "game lore." When was the last time you saw Klingons manning a Federation starship?

So glad I returned my pre-order before opening it and using the code.

Originally posted by Xondar123

Originally posted by Mr_Cyberpunk

I don't understand why they don't just allow Federation and Klingon ships on both sides

Probably because it totally goes against "game lore." When was the last time you saw Klingons manning a Federation starship?

1. It does fit in with Lore, the Terrans use Federation ships :P they could join the Klingon Alliance.. this would make sense since the Terrans joined with the Klingons in SFC- whilst not true GR canon its still a form of ST canon.. and If I see any Hydrans or Lyrans in the game then why not Terrans joining the Klingons. I think you could get away with it by saying they were Terrans. Perfectly valid IMO.

2. Since when did Lore even apply to this game anyway, they pretty much screwed with Canon by turning the Klingons into enemies again, it contradicts the years of peace that they had with the federation.. essentially saying a big fuck you to the efforts of Kirk and Picard in Klingon diplomacy.

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Terran_Empire

would be interesting to be a pimp like Archer lol- no need for Orions when you've got skimpy clothed Earth women ;)

--

Unfortunately, Spock's reforms left the Empire unprepared to defend itself against the emerging threat of a united Klingon-Cardassian Alliance, which managed to conquer the entire Terran Empire, turning the Terrans themselves into a slave race.

--

The actual canon version states that they are infact slaves to the "mirror" Klingon empire- would be interesting to see them in game.

I don't why anyone that's not a lifer would even still be playing Klingons with the total disrespect they've been shown.  Cryptic has time to make frickin formal wear for Feds and the Klingons still get crapped on.  I'm waiting for meager Klingon content they come up with to be in the c-store and watching the forums melt.  It does give me a warm fuzzy to see the lifers with the anti-Cryptic avatars.

It still cracks me up to every now and then see a CDF member say the Klingons were never meant to be a full faction, despite numerous youtube links of a video of Jack saying both factions would have full content, and them justifying the lack of Klingon content.

from dstahl:

While I haven't had a chance to sit down with the character art team yet (been a busy week) ... here's what I have.

So after looking back through the April/May schedules - the earlier reference I can find for when we started working on the 200 day veteran rewards was around May 14 (this is all fuzzy to me because I was out on paternity leave near this time). Season 1.1 had just launched, and Season 1.2 development was in full swing and plans for Season 3 were well underway.

At that time - I can find no reference to a Klingon version of these rewards in any schedules so I can only assume that there was either a technical or scheduling reason for why there weren't included (plus the fact that a small percentage of the player base were playing their Klingons at that time).

This is the best data I have on why there is no Klingon 200 day veteran jacket.

Does that mean we can't make one? No - we can. But it means that we'll need to postpone some other updates from the schedule in order to get these in and it could take a few months (the character art team is for the most part working in a branch that isn't scheduled to go live until Novemberish)

So even though this was never planned, if (as these threads show) Klingon faction players are interested in wearing these jackets, then we are not against listening to feedback and making the decision to add them in.

Now that i have more details, next step is to sit down with the character art team producer and find out when this can be added to the schedule that makes sense. My guess is - you'll see it sometime this year, but not soon (so long as the reason we didn't make them was some crazy tech reason like- Klingons don't have the right kind of costume data configs)

Just promise me this - if we make them - you'll wear them and you'll love them.

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=3003616#post3003616

so dont worry klinks, your going to get your 200 day vet rewards..... sometime after day 300.

rofl... cryptic is such a joke.

Originally posted by raistalin69

 

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=3003616#post3003616

 

so dont worry klinks, your going to get your 200 day vet rewards..... sometime after day 300.

rofl... cryptic is such a joke.

 

And it looks like it will just be a coat.  The Klingons on the o-boards are begging for a single coat for a veteran reward.  One freaking coat and  they are looking at -maybe- 3 months IF they get it. 

un-freaking-believable.

 

I'll say it again.  STO is a third rate game made by a second rate development house.

Originally posted by Rifle123

Originally posted by raistalin69

 

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=3003616#post3003616

 

so dont worry klinks, your going to get your 200 day vet rewards..... sometime after day 300.

rofl... cryptic is such a joke.

 

And it looks like it will just be a coat.  The Klingons on the o-boards are begging for a single coat for a veteran reward.  One freaking coat and  they are looking at -maybe- 3 months IF they get it. 

un-freaking-believable.

 

I'll say it again.  STO is a third rate game made by a second rate development house.

 It's a glowing example of whaqt Cryptic thinks of it's game . They consider it a single faction , single player game .  They wonder why no one plays the Klingon faction . Really ? Hey , at least they have the C-store for all the Feds ?

Originally posted by Xondar123

Originally posted by Mr_Cyberpunk

I don't understand why they don't just allow Federation and Klingon ships on both sides

Probably because it totally goes against "game lore." When was the last time you saw Klingons manning a Federation starship?

Ever hear of a Klingon named Worf?

Originally posted by raistalin69

from dstahl:

 

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=3003616#post3003616

 

so dont worry klinks, your going to get your 200 day vet rewards..... sometime after day 300.

rofl... cryptic is such a joke.

That's pretty sad, when your average modder could probably make ten jackets and some pants in an afternoon.

A decent response to the hypotheticals Cryptic throws out and expects people to buy into.

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=3013728&postcount=261 

a reply to :

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=3013230&postcount=245

from this thread:

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=179091

I think I am going to stop following this game all together and just go play other games.  It is clear that this will never be the Star Trek game I had hoped for, and it is just a waste of time for me to care anymore about it.  To bad that this happened to one of my most favorite IP's, but it's happened and there is nothing to do about it.  All I have cared to say I have said.  To all of you that enjoy the game... Im glad you do.  To the ones that don't.... I feel your pain... but theres nothing for it now. 

lol about the jacket, I could have had it done in 30 mins. Cryptic are so full of shit. Why the fuck would it take 3 months to develop a low poly jacket that will just be a texture change anyway. These guys completely suck at game development. God damn it.

Lazy bastards.

Originally posted by Cacaphony

I think I am going to stop following this game all together and just go play other games.  It is clear that this will never be the Star Trek game I had hoped for, and it is just a waste of time for me to care anymore about it.  To bad that this happened to one of my most favorite IP's, but it's happened and there is nothing to do about it.  All I have cared to say I have said.  To all of you that enjoy the game... Im glad you do.  To the ones that don't.... I feel your pain... but theres nothing for it now. 

 Same here. FIrst it was wait until season one, then wait until season two. Now it's wait until season 3?  I don't know how much longer they can keep dangling carrots for people, then pulling them away at the last second and still have people hang around for the next go around. I don't know if Im more upset about STO or the fact that they're due to fuck up NWN in about 12 months.

Originally posted by Mr_Cyberpunk

lol about the jacket, I could have had it done in 30 mins. Cryptic are so full of shit. Why the fuck would it take 3 months to develop a low poly jacket that will just be a texture change anyway. These guys completely suck at game development. God damn it.

Lazy bastards.

 Funny thing is that the majority of the cdf , don't know shit about computers or game design . It's funny the more they try to calm stuff the louder and more boisterious the forums get. It's true people like a good fight . They are beating up on Cryptic ( mainly because they deserve it ) now because the game is unfinished in their view. The difference between now and release is, the cdf has run out/bored of Fed content and want to do Klingon content, and there is none.  They've got 4 to 2 maxed out Feds, and want some other reason to be there.

Do Klingons even have crafting yet?

Maybe Craptic just needs to rise hands and admit that STO is their first OMG, not Neverwinter  Seems they cannot make proper MMO's and the sooner they get out of this market the better it is for their current and future customers, if any. Would be sad if they manage to get enough revenue from their next stitch-work (Neverwinter) as it means they'll come out with yet another one in 2012, and with a next one in 2013, etc.

Originally posted by Darth_Osor

Do Klingons even have crafting yet?

 Unless it was added in a season update and I missed the notes mentioning it, no.

Those douches at Cryptic have absolutely no intent to make the Klingon faction up to par with the rest of the game.

A quote from Stormshade who closed the thread of concern in the official forums:

"I definitely would love to see some great ideas of what we can do to continue to improve the Klingon Faction.

I am also in agreement with Sir James that this thread needs to end before any other accidents occur. Post your Ideas in the Klingon Forum, and I'll make sure they get seen tomorrow.

Thanks,

Stormshade"

Good ideas have been put up in their forum since we first realized (at least when STO went live) exactly how lacking the KDF faction was.  Many others, including myself, put up ideas of things to add to the KDF as well as the overall game.

Improving PvP with controllable maps & locations.  Uniform items from Star Trek canon as well as references with show screenshots.  New Klingon ships and variants that other companies have done for Star Trek games, to give some inspiration of variety.

On and on.  The ideas have been posted.  Cryptic lackeys / employees have even dared to post on the old Klingon forum about how much they love the Klingons.  Sorry MOFOs, your actions (or more exactly, LACK of action) speak louder than your words.

We had LONG complained about how lacking the faction was at the beginning when this game came out, and the sad fact remains is that the same complaints are still valid.  The complaints, ideas for improvement, are all there in the forums, some even pretty well organized.  But Cryptic absolutely refuses to do anything with it.  Because all their efforts are either 1 of 3 things:

A) Continue to pile attention on the Federation

B) Continue to milk people via the C-Store

C) Both A & B - Put Federation specific content into the C-Store.  Win-Win for Cryptic!

The distressing fact is that now that STO is around (still), my hopes of seeing a better company take a stab at a proper Star Trek MMORPG are dashed for years and years to come.