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  osraglonas

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Joined: 1/26/10
Posts: 5

8/13/10 9:18:34 AM#41

FFXIV : will fail miserably  , why ? coze it is too much console based

not a single veteran mmo player wants to play with aa controller in his hand ( sure you can play whit mouse and keyboard ) but those controls are horrid !!!!!!!!!!

 

TOR : i think will have his fanbased players , beside that nothing special :)

GW2 : Will deliver , GW1 concept was a huge success ( and still is )

           Arenanet are good at this and i am very sure it will succeed

 

Ps : GW2 is not in early stage of development , i know from a good source it actually is ready to play

        they are just tweaking out some bits and decide when the best time it is to bring it out

 

pps : just my 2 cents :)

  Grotar89

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Joined: 5/01/10
Posts: 215

8/13/10 9:21:26 AM#42
Originally posted by sungodra

GW2 :Wouldn't be surprised at all if it was like GW1 with better graphics.

You obviously dont have idea what you are talking about..........

  sungodra

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Joined: 8/13/10
Posts: 1410

8/13/10 9:22:34 AM#43
Originally posted by osraglonas

FFXIV : will fail miserably  , why ? coze it is too much console based

not a single veteran mmo player wants to play with aa controller in his hand ( sure you can play whit mouse and keyboard ) but those controls are horrid !!!!!!!!!!

 

TOR : i think will have his fanbased players , beside that nothing special :)

GW2 : Will deliver , GW1 concept was a huge success ( and still is )

           Arenanet are good at this and i am very sure it will succeed

 

Ps : GW2 is not in early stage of development , i know from a good source it actually is ready to play

        they are just tweaking out some bits and decide when the best time it is to bring it out

 

pps : just my 2 cents :)

 Gw1 concept is a huge success??? You cannot be serious. That wasn't even an MMO.  It was more like that failed game phatasy star universe.

People want to play with OTHER people , not hang out in the city and find a group then go into the world with only your group in an instanced world.


"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"

  jayanti

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Posts: 373

8/13/10 9:23:07 AM#44

Sadly, I think the genre won't be rocked until WoW2, or whatever Blizzard are making. 

I think smaller games will add one or two exciting new features each, and someone like Blizzard will take all those and put them in one game, and all the people who only play mainstream games will go "OMG! These new features are awesome! Blizzard rocks!" then everyone will copy them and the casuals will think Blizzard changed the genre.

i.e. Exactly the same as they did with Warcraft.

"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright

  sungodra

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8/13/10 9:23:34 AM#45
Originally posted by Grotar89
Originally posted by sungodra

GW2 :Wouldn't be surprised at all if it was like GW1 with better graphics.

You obviously dont have idea what you are talking about..........

 They say what they want to get people to buy the game. Prove to me otherwise that this is no different from GW1 other than the fact the dev team may have said they are changing it around.


"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"

  User Deleted
8/13/10 9:23:49 AM#46

With this trio, I find it hard to believe that not one of them will live up to their hype. Good times ahead indeed.

  osraglonas

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8/13/10 9:25:41 AM#47
Originally posted by sungodra
Originally posted by osraglonas

FFXIV : will fail miserably  , why ? coze it is too much console based

not a single veteran mmo player wants to play with aa controller in his hand ( sure you can play whit mouse and keyboard ) but those controls are horrid !!!!!!!!!!

 

TOR : i think will have his fanbased players , beside that nothing special :)

GW2 : Will deliver , GW1 concept was a huge success ( and still is )

           Arenanet are good at this and i am very sure it will succeed

 

Ps : GW2 is not in early stage of development , i know from a good source it actually is ready to play

        they are just tweaking out some bits and decide when the best time it is to bring it out

 

pps : just my 2 cents :)

 Gw1 concept is a huge success??? You cannot be serious. That wasn't even an MMO.  It was more like that failed game phatasy star universe.

People want to play with OTHER people , not hang out in the city and find a group then go into the world with only your group in an instanced world.

 

Please GW1 has the best PVP in any game , not 100000 using the same skills coze the variety is huge ( skills wise )

sure it is heavy instanced , still it is fun and successfull

  sungodra

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Joined: 8/13/10
Posts: 1410

8/13/10 9:25:56 AM#48
Originally posted by jayanti

Sadly, I think the genre won't be rocked until WoW2, or whatever Blizzard are making. 

I think smaller games will add one or two exciting new features each, and someone like Blizzard will take all those and put them in one game, and all the people who only play mainstream games will go "OMG! These new features are awesome! Blizzard rocks!" then everyone will copy them and the casuals will think Blizzard changed the genre.

i.e. Exactly the same as they did with Warcraft.

 I agree with you. Further more I think that MMO companies will find the genre to not be very profitable and they will stop focusing on these kind of games.  We may see alot more f2p crappy games that are cheaply made with an MT item shop in our future.

 

MMO customers tend to complain to much and not be satisfied with anything.


"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"

  dirtyjoe78

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Joined: 3/25/07
Posts: 402

8/13/10 9:38:51 AM#49

I am gonna go out on a limb here and say Rift is going to be a really solid title.  I Expect ToR will do well and FFXIV will have a solid player base same with GW2 but i think that Rift is going to do very well as well.

  Zeroxin

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My words are not here to sway you,they are here to make you understand.

8/13/10 9:46:48 AM#50
Originally posted by sungodra
Originally posted by osraglonas

FFXIV : will fail miserably  , why ? coze it is too much console based

not a single veteran mmo player wants to play with aa controller in his hand ( sure you can play whit mouse and keyboard ) but those controls are horrid !!!!!!!!!!

 

TOR : i think will have his fanbased players , beside that nothing special :)

GW2 : Will deliver , GW1 concept was a huge success ( and still is )

           Arenanet are good at this and i am very sure it will succeed

 

Ps : GW2 is not in early stage of development , i know from a good source it actually is ready to play

        they are just tweaking out some bits and decide when the best time it is to bring it out

 

pps : just my 2 cents :)

 Gw1 concept is a huge success??? You cannot be serious. That wasn't even an MMO.  It was more like that failed game phatasy star universe.

People want to play with OTHER people , not hang out in the city and find a group then go into the world with only your group in an instanced world.

6 million people disagree with you.

This is not a game.

  joejccva

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Joined: 7/07/04
Posts: 837

There are no perfect men in this world, only perfect intentions.

8/13/10 9:48:44 AM#51

Honestly all this hype about GW2 is getting a bit much. I never was a fan of the first one, and unless GW2 jumps out at me with glee..I doubt I'll waste my money on it.

Speaking of TOR, it looks to me more like a multiplayer RPG than an actual MMO. Who am I to judge? If there is any type of single-player mode to it, I'll probably skip it.

I never played the first Final Fantasy, but I might try the second. Honestly the only MMO that really looks interesting is Rift: Planes of Telara.

  sungodra

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Joined: 8/13/10
Posts: 1410

8/13/10 9:49:14 AM#52
Originally posted by Zeroxin
Originally posted by sungodra
Originally posted by osraglonas

FFXIV : will fail miserably  , why ? coze it is too much console based

not a single veteran mmo player wants to play with aa controller in his hand ( sure you can play whit mouse and keyboard ) but those controls are horrid !!!!!!!!!!

 

TOR : i think will have his fanbased players , beside that nothing special :)

GW2 : Will deliver , GW1 concept was a huge success ( and still is )

           Arenanet are good at this and i am very sure it will succeed

 

Ps : GW2 is not in early stage of development , i know from a good source it actually is ready to play

        they are just tweaking out some bits and decide when the best time it is to bring it out

 

pps : just my 2 cents :)

 Gw1 concept is a huge success??? You cannot be serious. That wasn't even an MMO.  It was more like that failed game phatasy star universe.

People want to play with OTHER people , not hang out in the city and find a group then go into the world with only your group in an instanced world.

6 million people disagree with you.

 6 million people that bought the game over the course of the years and never played it.  Yea lol... I was one of those people.

 


"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"

  joejccva

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Joined: 7/07/04
Posts: 837

There are no perfect men in this world, only perfect intentions.

8/13/10 9:49:50 AM#53


Originally posted by Zeroxin


Originally posted by sungodra


Originally posted by osraglonas

FFXIV : will fail miserably  , why ? coze it is too much console based
not a single veteran mmo player wants to play with aa controller in his hand ( sure you can play whit mouse and keyboard ) but those controls are horrid !!!!!!!!!!
 
TOR : i think will have his fanbased players , beside that nothing special :)
GW2 : Will deliver , GW1 concept was a huge success ( and still is )
           Arenanet are good at this and i am very sure it will succeed
 
Ps : GW2 is not in early stage of development , i know from a good source it actually is ready to play
        they are just tweaking out some bits and decide when the best time it is to bring it out
 
pps : just my 2 cents :)


 Gw1 concept is a huge success??? You cannot be serious. That wasn't even an MMO.  It was more like that failed game phatasy star universe.
People want to play with OTHER people , not hang out in the city and find a group then go into the world with only your group in an instanced world.


6 million people disagree with you.

6 million people that played the game for free you mean? k :)

People love things that are free.

  sungodra

Novice Member

Joined: 8/13/10
Posts: 1410

8/13/10 9:50:23 AM#54
Originally posted by joejccva

Honestly all this hype about GW2 is getting a bit much. I never was a fan of the first one, and unless GW2 jumps out at me with glee..I doubt I'll waste my money on it.

Speaking of TOR, it looks to me more like a multiplayer RPG than an actual MMO. Who am I to judge? If there is any type of single-player mode to it, I'll probably skip it.

I never played the first Final Fantasy, but I might try the second. Honestly the only MMO that really looks interesting is Rift: Planes of Telara.

 Rift looks pretty good. I actually was looking at Arche Age aswell, but I doubt it will be out in America.  That game looks like it could do very well here.


"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"

  Zeroxin

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Joined: 6/21/06
Posts: 2242

My words are not here to sway you,they are here to make you understand.

8/13/10 9:51:40 AM#55
Originally posted by sungodra
Originally posted by Zeroxin
.....

6 million people disagree with you.

 6 million people that bought the game over the course of the years and never played it.  Yea lol... I was one of those people.

Still a success.

This is not a game.

  Besttheiswow

Novice Member

Joined: 7/11/08
Posts: 320

8/13/10 9:54:15 AM#56

The wow basic formula is here for some years and will stay, the trick is copy wow and improve on top of that, and one game doing that is swtor, all others either copy with low quality or knoledge or try to do something different and fail.

So swtor has a gigantic comunity behind it and years of story, follows the wowish basic formula, its made by bioware, will for sure have quality and polish and alot of content for every mmorpg player of different tastes..and it will run in almost every pc available.

 

GW2 wants to innovate, its not proved that people will like those innovations in reality....but in theory people think its great,  the graphics will be heavy and few ppl can actualy run the game with settings that look really good, i think it will be an asian game better then average that alot of westerns will like as they did GW because its free also.

 

FF14 Only people that are fans of final fantasy will play a game like this, no jumping, no swimming, no pvp, combat is not action based becomes boring, invisible walls all over  with no freedom to even jump down from a rock...

 

Noone of this will even come close to kill wow, and noone ever will because no mmorpg will ever have the numbers wow has...theres too many mmos out there and people will spread out in all of them.

  razerblade29

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Joined: 2/17/04
Posts: 233

8/13/10 9:55:17 AM#57
Originally posted by joejccva

 


Originally posted by Zeroxin


Originally posted by sungodra


Originally posted by osraglonas

FFXIV : will fail miserably  , why ? coze it is too much console based
not a single veteran mmo player wants to play with aa controller in his hand ( sure you can play whit mouse and keyboard ) but those controls are horrid !!!!!!!!!!
 
TOR : i think will have his fanbased players , beside that nothing special :)
GW2 : Will deliver , GW1 concept was a huge success ( and still is )
           Arenanet are good at this and i am very sure it will succeed
 
Ps : GW2 is not in early stage of development , i know from a good source it actually is ready to play
        they are just tweaking out some bits and decide when the best time it is to bring it out
 
pps : just my 2 cents :)


 Gw1 concept is a huge success??? You cannot be serious. That wasn't even an MMO.  It was more like that failed game phatasy star universe.
People want to play with OTHER people , not hang out in the city and find a group then go into the world with only your group in an instanced world.



6 million people disagree with you.

 

6 million people that played the game for free you mean? k :)

People love things that are free.

just because it didnt have a montly sub doesnt mean it wasnt an mmo, and just because a game does have a monthly sub doenst make it an mmo. Your logic is flawed.

Anyway the thing i hated about guild wars 1 the most was that u couldnt jump, yeah thats right that was its biggest flaw.

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  sungodra

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Posts: 1410

8/13/10 9:56:59 AM#58
Originally posted by razerblade29
Originally posted by joejccva

 


Originally posted by Zeroxin


Originally posted by sungodra


Originally posted by osraglonas

FFXIV : will fail miserably  , why ? coze it is too much console based
not a single veteran mmo player wants to play with aa controller in his hand ( sure you can play whit mouse and keyboard ) but those controls are horrid !!!!!!!!!!
 
TOR : i think will have his fanbased players , beside that nothing special :)
GW2 : Will deliver , GW1 concept was a huge success ( and still is )
           Arenanet are good at this and i am very sure it will succeed
 
Ps : GW2 is not in early stage of development , i know from a good source it actually is ready to play
        they are just tweaking out some bits and decide when the best time it is to bring it out
 
pps : just my 2 cents :)



 Gw1 concept is a huge success??? You cannot be serious. That wasn't even an MMO.  It was more like that failed game phatasy star universe.
People want to play with OTHER people , not hang out in the city and find a group then go into the world with only your group in an instanced world.



6 million people disagree with you.

 

6 million people that played the game for free you mean? k :)

People love things that are free.

just because it didnt have a montly sub doesnt mean it wasnt an mmo, and just becausea game does have a monthly sub doenst make it an mmo. Your logic is flawed.

Anyway the thing i hated about guild wars 1 the most was that u couldnt jump, yeah thats right that was its biggest flaw.

 No, it's not an mmo because when you go out in the world you are by yourself. That is why it's not an MMO.


"When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"

  stamps79

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8/13/10 9:58:34 AM#59

Guild Wars 2, well, it's not a MMO that's the first thing, it's a CORPG, What I've seen in this game, it's everything I wish GW1 was and a whole lot more, the team really put a lot of re-design in this game. It's like EQ2, but I think the ppl who enjoyed GW1 will be more happier with the change then the ppl of EQ that didn't enjoy EQ2.  When I first played GW's, the first turn off for me was the gameplay, for a game that was given some much praise...I felt let down when I first played it and even when I play the expansion as well to give it another try a year later, it never worked out for me....so I hope GW2 plays 100% better then the original, because that's what I needed in the game. Everything else being placed and worked into this game is going to be big and I think the team is going to make something ground breaking and amazing.

 

Star Wars " The Old Republic" - I'm excited about this game, I have yet to be let down by Bioware as a developer and I think what there doing with this game is fantastic, I do like the engine and the style of the game and I like how balanced all the classes are going to be, fully voiced game is also something huge, for all those ppl that skip reading quest lines, this will be perfect for you ( so much story is missed out in a game because. ppl don't want to read there quests)  I think Bioware, which has been a 1-person game maker, is stepping out of there comfort zone and making a multiplayer experinece that not only will make you happy, but them as well.

 

Final Fantasy XIV - well I did play Final Fantasy XI about halfway when it was released, it's not your typical MMO.  You had to have a lot of patience and time on your hand.   I adopted to EVE so well, that it felt like the same thing just different syles of fighting.  Everything you did in FFXI took a long time, I bet most ppl that played it didn't even pass a few hours, before cancelling there subscription. I believe that this next installment will be a huge improvement in the FF series, fighting and questing will be structured a lot better. Square's doing a huge overhaul in this game in everything that they didn't do right in FFXI or could of done better. I'm hoping to get a beta invite to see how much is changed and the feel of it as well, but that is a future request that I still wait for.

Awaiting release: Guild Wars 2(August 2012), Elder Scroll MMO (2013), and Torchlight MMO (Oct 2014)


Playing: Tera Online, GW2 Beta and Diablo 3 beta..


Enjoyed: WOW 5 1/2 yrs, LOTRO 3yrs, GW 1/2yr, DFO 1yr, EVE Online 3yrs, and Huxley (Beta).

Failed to impress: STO 1/4yr, Aion 1/2yr, AoC 1yr, CO, Fallen Earth, DDO, EQ2 1/2yr, WAR 1/2yr, Lineage 2 and FF XI 1/2yr, FF XIV.

  Kyleran

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8/13/10 10:05:10 AM#60

If even one of these games is sucessful and holds more than a half a million subs after 6 months they''ll be out performing every MMO in the past 6 years besides WOW.

For all 3 to be successful..... I wouldn't want to take those odds.....

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