Originally posted by raistalin69

Originally posted by Darth_Osor

Originally posted by Dinendae

Originally posted by Jounar

 

First Cryptic claimed the 45 day patch would fix everything wrong with the game, then it was Season 1, then Season 2 and now it Season 3 :(

 To be fair, it was the fans who made that 45 day patch to be more than it was supposed to be; Cryptic stated early on that it was supposed to concentrate mainly on adding genesis content to the Klingon side, but the players were the ones who blew it up to be more than it was supposed to be.

 I don't know about that.  I seem to remember beta testers saying the game wasn't ready for launch with a big reason being woefully light on content, and Jackalope assuring us the 45 day patch would add lots of content.

 does it matter weather it was cryptic or the fans making the 45 day patch out to be a "miracle"?

isnt the real point that within 2 or 3 weeks of launch things got so bad that everyone felt the game needed a "miracle patch"

worst part is that people are still waiting for the "miracle patch" 6 months later.... damn thats patience.

 

 

 

 

I remember it as Osor said , and they aren't patient . They are called Lifers ( it's like a prison sentence without any hope of entertainment. ) , they have nothing better to do then sit and hope they can get more people to play . The majority of people left , I suspect are long termers are either life time subs or at this point one year subscribers. You'll get the occasional person that tries it and hangs for a month or two , since that's about all the average person can tolerate of repetative content. Go on the forums and take a look at any thread and you'll see almost nothing , but blue names. The occasional white is usually a one year or a lifer who is too embrassed to acknowledge it.

 

 

 

Originally posted by Darth_Osor

Originally posted by Dinendae

Originally posted by Jounar

 

First Cryptic claimed the 45 day patch would fix everything wrong with the game, then it was Season 1, then Season 2 and now it Season 3 :(

 To be fair, it was the fans who made that 45 day patch to be more than it was supposed to be; Cryptic stated early on that it was supposed to concentrate mainly on adding genesis content to the Klingon side, but the players were the ones who blew it up to be more than it was supposed to be.

 I don't know about that.  I seem to remember beta testers saying the game wasn't ready for launch with a big reason being woefully light on content, and Jackalope assuring us the 45 day patch would add lots of content.

 That's the problem, you're going by what Jack said; it can generally be safely assumed that the man doesn't know what the heck he is talking about. After all, Jack also said that the Klingons had tons of content and were the ones he was having the most fun playing. I was going by the Daniel Stahl podcast (the one on December 13) that stated the 45 day patch would add in Genesis content for the Klingons, because they needed time to rework the Genesis system to create missions more appropriate for the Klingons (i.e. they wanted the missions to all be combat focused).

Originally posted by Dinendae

Originally posted by Darth_Osor

Originally posted by Dinendae

Originally posted by Jounar

 

First Cryptic claimed the 45 day patch would fix everything wrong with the game, then it was Season 1, then Season 2 and now it Season 3 :(

 To be fair, it was the fans who made that 45 day patch to be more than it was supposed to be; Cryptic stated early on that it was supposed to concentrate mainly on adding genesis content to the Klingon side, but the players were the ones who blew it up to be more than it was supposed to be.

 I don't know about that.  I seem to remember beta testers saying the game wasn't ready for launch with a big reason being woefully light on content, and Jackalope assuring us the 45 day patch would add lots of content.

 That's the problem, you're going by what Jack said; it can generally be safely assumed that the man doesn't know what the heck he is talking about. After all, Jack also said that the Klingons had tons of content and were the ones he was having the most fun playing. I was going by the Daniel Stahl podcast (the one on December 13) that stated the 45 day patch would add in Genesis content for the Klingons, because they needed time to rework the Genesis system to create missions more appropriate for the Klingons (i.e. they wanted the missions to all be combat focused).

Cryptic have also been caught a good few times editing or deleting thier statements so anything they say can be taken with a grain of salt.

Originally posted by Dinendae

Originally posted by Darth_Osor

Originally posted by Dinendae

Originally posted by Jounar

 

First Cryptic claimed the 45 day patch would fix everything wrong with the game, then it was Season 1, then Season 2 and now it Season 3 :(

 To be fair, it was the fans who made that 45 day patch to be more than it was supposed to be; Cryptic stated early on that it was supposed to concentrate mainly on adding genesis content to the Klingon side, but the players were the ones who blew it up to be more than it was supposed to be.

 I don't know about that.  I seem to remember beta testers saying the game wasn't ready for launch with a big reason being woefully light on content, and Jackalope assuring us the 45 day patch would add lots of content.

 That's the problem, you're going by what Jack said; it can generally be safely assumed that the man doesn't know what the heck he is talking about. After all, Jack also said that the Klingons had tons of content and were the ones he was having the most fun playing. I was going by the Daniel Stahl podcast (the one on December 13) that stated the 45 day patch would add in Genesis content for the Klingons, because they needed time to rework the Genesis system to create missions more appropriate for the Klingons (i.e. they wanted the missions to all be combat focused).

 ...except you said the *fans* made the 45 day patch out to be more than was promised.  True, anyone that played a MMO before knew there was no way they were going to magically crap out enough content in 45 days to fill in that black hole of a game, but that doesn't change the fact they were told it was going to be big, and I'm sure quite a few people that bought STO were first time MMO players and didn't know better.

Originally posted by Darth_Osor

 

 ...except you said the *fans* made the 45 day patch out to be more than was promised.  True, anyone that played a MMO before knew there was no way they were going to magically crap out enough content in 45 days to fill in that black hole of a game, but that doesn't change the fact they were told it was going to be big, and I'm sure quite a few people that bought STO were first time MMO players and didn't know better.

   The fans did make it out to be more than it was supposed to be, i.e. the 'miracle patch,' and not Cryptic. In fact that was something I posted to Cryptic in the beta forums about, when open beta was going and people got a general sense of how lacking the game was going to be; I posted to the devs that they need to start posting more about what they expected the 45 day patch to be and not let the fans make it out to be more than it was, otherwise people were going to get massively disappointed and leave in droves when the patch didn't do everything the fans were claiming it would. Ironically, the thing didn't even do what Cryptic was claiming it would do, but that's a different issue.

   As for not knowing better, a lot of people who had experience with MMOs believed it as well; remember Cryptic was selling the idea that they had tons of content that was nearly finished, but that they needed the 45 days to polish it up and test it internally first. Now we know that was complete b.s., but at the time no one really knew how much (or little in this case) Cryptic had managed to get done. It helped Cryptic's claims that there were features that had only been in game for just the last couple of weeks of beta (such as the Klingon 'content'), and some things we didn't see until launch. It seemed reasonable that there might have been more waiting to get finished. As I said, we know that was a complete lie now, but it was within the realm of possibility until we actually saw how sparse that 45 day patch was.

I am surprised, or maybe not, that people are still discussing the "45 day patch" when that was something like 155 days ago. ;)

Originally posted by Gruug

I am surprised, or maybe not, that people are still discussing the "45 day patch" when that was something like 155 days ago. ;)

 Eh, I just try to be fair in my criticisms; in this case while Cryptic didn't make good on what the patch was supposed to have, it was the fans who turned it into some kind of supposed miracle patch that would fix all of STO's woes. Even factoring in marketing spin and hype, Cryptic didn't take things that far. History repeated itself with Season 1 and Season 2 as well: Cryptic made promises (some they kept, some they didn't), but the fans made each one out to be far more than actually advertised.

Originally posted by Dinendae

Originally posted by Gruug

I am surprised, or maybe not, that people are still discussing the "45 day patch" when that was something like 155 days ago. ;)

 Eh, I just try to be fair in my criticisms; in this case while Cryptic didn't make good on what the patch was supposed to have, it was the fans who turned it into some kind of supposed miracle patch that would fix all of STO's woes. Even factoring in marketing spin and hype, Cryptic didn't take things that far. History repeated itself with Season 1 and Season 2 as well: Cryptic made promises (some they kept, some they didn't), but the fans made each one out to be far more than actually advertised.

I agree with that. When the Ship Interiors hit Tribble (the test server) I was extremely underwhelmed thinking "seriously? is this all? are they even going to put functionality into it?" and then it was released pretty much in the same condition it already was in on the test server.

Yet everyone on the forums made it out to sound like Interiors would fix a lot of the problems with the gameplay.. it didn't.. and they only put ship interiors in because the original Alpha screenshots showed fully explorable interiors of an Akira class ship- so like many others we were mislead into thinking Cryptic was going to implement that- but the fans ultimately made it sound like being able to walk around on your ship was somehow going to fix the game.

Season 2 is a joke, the non-combat gameplay is just a broken grind, the interiors are non-functional, the only thing it added to the game was some late end game stuff that 90% of the players won't ever likely experience- it sucks. And Klingon PvE is still crap. So long as Cryptic are focused on Story Driven content the miracle patch will never come.. they seem so certain that players want the tedious grind- no.. that's the problem with the game- there's too much grind, and they just keep adding more ways to grind- all the patches have done is added more grind to the game. (season 2 added those new badges for example.. so once you hit the level 51 cap.. then you've got to grind those fucking badges!).

Originally posted by Mr_Cyberpunk

 

I agree with that. When the Ship Interiors hit Tribble (the test server) I was extremely underwhelmed thinking "seriously? is this all? are they even going to put functionality into it?" and then it was released pretty much in the same condition it already was in on the test server.

Yet everyone on the forums made it out to sound like Interiors would fix a lot of the problems with the gameplay.. it didn't.. and they only put ship interiors in because the original Alpha screenshots showed fully explorable interiors of an Akira class ship- so like many others we were mislead into thinking Cryptic was going to implement that- but the fans ultimately made it sound like being able to walk around on your ship was somehow going to fix the game.

Season 2 is a joke, the non-combat gameplay is just a broken grind, the interiors are non-functional, the only thing it added to the game was some late end game stuff that 90% of the players won't ever likely experience- it sucks. And Klingon PvE is still crap. So long as Cryptic are focused on Story Driven content the miracle patch will never come.. they seem so certain that players want the tedious grind- no.. that's the problem with the game- there's too much grind, and they just keep adding more ways to grind- all the patches have done is added more grind to the game. (season 2 added those new badges for example.. so once you hit the level 51 cap.. then you've got to grind those fucking badges!).

 wow... who in there right mind would think functional interiors was a fix for sto. i understand cRIPtic doing it, as the fans asked for it... but honestly. you would have to be completely delusional to think they would fix anything. nice, but unless there was missions onboard your own ship (like there was in every tv series) whats the point?

maybe missions on a persons own ship is a longer range goal of cryptics, buyt there are so many other parts of the game that desperately need attention. cRIPtic is obviously either not capable or not interested in making a decent mmo. how the big boss' at atari can tolerate a management team that decides to add terrtiatary fluff to a game that has no substance is shocking. no wonder they are getting sued and losing money.

as a manager at a mmo studio.. didnt anyone ask themselves...

"are we going to lose more subscribers if we work on ship interiors and ignore content / overhauling the exploration and crafting  systems.....  or  should we work on content and major game flaws first?"

we all know which one they chose.

Originally posted by raistalin69

 

 wow... who in there right mind would think functional interiors was a fix for sto. i understand cRIPtic doing it, as the fans asked for it... but honestly. you would have to be completely delusional to think they would fix anything. nice, but unless there was missions onboard your own ship (like there was in every tv series) whats the point?

 What gets me is that cryptic always was upfront that ship interiors were going to be basically cosmetic only; how anyone could read more into that is beyond me.

Originally posted by Dinendae

Originally posted by raistalin69

 

 wow... who in there right mind would think functional interiors was a fix for sto. i understand cRIPtic doing it, as the fans asked for it... but honestly. you would have to be completely delusional to think they would fix anything. nice, but unless there was missions onboard your own ship (like there was in every tv series) whats the point?

 What gets me is that cryptic always was upfront that ship interiors were going to be basically cosmetic only; how anyone could read more into that is beyond me.

Sadly far to many of the STO fanbase are so willing to pay via the c-store for content that really should be included in the monthly subscription. I am kinda amazed that ship interiors were not a c-store purchase at this point since around 60% of new content added to the game ends up there :(

TBH becoming a life time member of a game like this, says more about that person than about the company. All the big "MMO Games" have tanked compared to those hyped expectations.

All you nay sayers need to wake up and smell the coffee!

This is Star Trek.

I am sure you have heard of the word "Trekkie", never ever take them lightly.

This game is and will always be a sure-fire success, whatever you may think, simply because of Trekkies. Add to that the fact that there is no other Star Trek game, single or multiplayer (not to mention an MMO) on the market and you have a winning formula every day and twice on Sundays! Even people who have never played an MMO in their life bought this game because they are trekkies.

So you may as well stop all these fail threads about Lifers starting to bail, or how bad the game is as it will simply not fail. The games is getting more and more content as well, the development continues, the Trekies would be happy as it is at the moment, or how it was at release. 

So if you want to slate a game then I advise you try another game, maybe one that does not have an IP that is as famous as Star Trek, I would suggest WAR, but even that has a strong following, so try Tabula Rasa (oh sorry that folded already), try Vangurad, yes that is a prime candidate for a fail thread as even the producers(Sony) want it to fail so you will have more success there seeing a failed game, than you will ever do here.

Why you all want to see fail games in this genre is beyond me as it is incredibly short sighted for a person who is registered on MMORPG forum to see the downfall of any MMO, as one day you may find that all MMOs have folded besides the mainstreams ones like WoW, which the majority of people on these forums don't like anyway, but yet do not give other MMO producers a chance, even if you don't like the games they produce and think they are bad does not mean that you should try and put them down as this is contrary to being an MMO enthusiast(which you are as you are reading this and no doubt have an account on these forums). 

And yes you may go on about how you don't want crap games etc but that is not how these things work, there has to a phase of crap games for good ones to come through(or any other product), so leave the slating of games to people who do not care about this genre and instead offer constructive criticism and ideas on how to make games better rather than just shouting fail all the time like an empty vessel(any numpty can do that), if you have nothing constructive to say then just keep quiet, as you are no better than those that you are slating in the first place TBH.

Thank you for your time. Hopefully you have learnt something about yourself and how to support your interest instead of shooting yourself in the foot.

Originally posted by Jounar

Originally posted by Dinendae

Originally posted by raistalin69

 

 wow... who in there right mind would think functional interiors was a fix for sto. i understand cRIPtic doing it, as the fans asked for it... but honestly. you would have to be completely delusional to think they would fix anything. nice, but unless there was missions onboard your own ship (like there was in every tv series) whats the point?

 What gets me is that cryptic always was upfront that ship interiors were going to be basically cosmetic only; how anyone could read more into that is beyond me.

Sadly far to many of the STO fanbase are so willing to pay via the c-store for content that really should be included in the monthly subscription. I am kinda amazed that ship interiors were not a c-store purchase at this point since around 60% of new content added to the game ends up there :(

They are doing it because its a StarTrek game. It's all about the fan dollar. I haven't "paid" for any C-store items yet, everything I have was free so far. Most of what they've put up is junk anyway- and the rest should either be something we can obtain ingame using energy credits. The services stuff is a given that it'd cost money, I don't have a problem with it except for the whole Per Character crap and the fact that Respecs cost money-- yet they keep changing the god damn skill tree every patch (so a new skill comes along, now you have to respec because you don't have an optimial cookie cutter build anymore.. seems like a scam to me.)

My suspicion is that if you did it to CO, there would be a massive uproar over it because CO isn't a well established IP and no one would give a flying fuck about a new cape skin the same way they would a new ship model based on an iconic TV show. It's nostalgia. I don't agree with it though and I won't be paying a cent more than the sub I already pay for.

What I find odd is some of the players see Cryptic as a charity case, so they pump money into the C-Store thinking its good for the game and the company.. WRONG.. its just telling them you're a sucker with a huge wallet. $25 for a starship.. when EvE Online give away free ships as promotions.. or that EvE Online have free Expansion packs. (FYI I dislike EvE but CCP have a far superior business model than the bs Cryptic are trying to pull on us.) $25 is about the price of a damn Expansion pack... What the fuck are they trying to pull on us?!

Simply their competitiors are doing a far better job, Cryptic are being ignorant morons if they think that they can continue to survive with this business model in such a competitive climate.

Also I don't want this game to fail.. I want it to succeed. Star Trek gaming has been through so much crap lately that to see this as the final blow would be heart breaking. So they better not let that happen. We've been through enough of this shit already.

Originally posted by VultureSkull

All you nay sayers need to wake up and smell the coffee!

This is Star Trek.

I am sure you have heard of the word "Trekkie", never ever take them lightly.

This game is and will always be a sure-fire success, whatever you may think, simply because of Trekkies. Add to that the fact that there is no other Star Trek game, single or multiplayer (not to mention an MMO) on the market and you have a winning formula every day and twice on Sundays! Even people who have never played an MMO in their life bought this game because they are trekkies.

So you may as well stop all these fail threads about Lifers starting to bail, or how bad the game is as it will simply not fail. The games is getting more and more content as well, the development continues, the Trekies would be happy as it is at the moment, or how it was at release. 

So if you want to slate a game then I advise you try another game, maybe one that does not have an IP that is as famous as Star Trek, I would suggest WAR, but even that has a strong following, so try Tabula Rasa (oh sorry that folded already), try Vangurad, yes that is a prime candidate for a fail thread as even the producers(Sony) want it to fail so you will have more success there seeing a failed game, than you will ever do here.

 

Why you all want to see fail games in this genre is beyond me as it is incredibly short sighted for a person who is registered on MMORPG forum to see the downfall of any MMO, as one day you may find that all MMOs have folded besides the mainstreams ones like WoW, which the majority of people on these forums don't like anyway, but yet do not give other MMO producers a chance, even if you don't like the games they produce and think they are bad does not mean that you should try and put them down as this is contrary to being an MMO enthusiast(which you are as you are reading this and no doubt have an account on these forums). 

And yes you may go on about how you don't want crap games etc but that is not how these things work, there has to a phase of crap games for good ones to come through(or any other product), so leave the slating of games to people who do not care about this genre and instead offer constructive criticism and ideas on how to make games better rather than just shouting fail all the time like an empty vessel(any numpty can do that), if you have nothing constructive to say then just keep quiet, as you are no better than those that you are slating in the first place TBH.

Thank you for your time. Hopefully you have learnt something about yourself and how to support your interest instead of shooting yourself in the foot.

Are you serious?

Have you even played STO?  LOL!  There were alot of people at launch, especially in the first month.  But that has dissipated now.  The game was released half-ass*d, incomplete.  To top THAT off, Cryptic has the gall to put content for sale on the C-Store / Item Shop.  And on top of having a C-Store / Item Shop, they're charging a Subscription or Lifetime sub!  And the Klingon experience?  LACKING.  Always had since the beginning and always will because Cryptic caters to the Federatio.  Oh sure, one of their devs posted how much he loves the Klingons in Star Trek, but the RESULTS speak for themselves with the totally lacking Klingon faction.  Not to mention the game has a bad reputation by word of mouth as well as reviews.  Then there's Cryptic's shady or outright idiotic PR moves (Galaxy X fiasco for instance). 

If anyone needs to "smell the coffee", it's you, but you first need to wake the f*ck up.

STO is a failure.

And personally, as an old school Star Trek fan, I **hope** STO pulls the plug sometime soon..  Because I hope the rights to a Star Trek MMO goes to a better publisher, better dev team to give the Star Trek name the proper MMORPG treatment it deserves.  But it's not going to happen anytime soon.  Cryptic will keep STO running with its small playerbase (and milking the bejeezus out of them).

Originally posted by VultureSkull

This game is and will always be a sure-fire success, whatever you may think, simply because of Trekkies.

The game is far from a success, try actually logging in so you can see how dead it is before you claim otherwise. At launch PvP queues were quick and plentiful, fleet battles had lots of participants, and stations were brimming over with players.

These days...not so much.

Add to that the fact that there is no other Star Trek game, single or multiplayer (not to mention an MMO) on the market and you have a winning formula every day and twice on Sundays!

No other Star Trek game on the market that is either single or multiplayer? That is blatantly false. In fact, since 2000 there have been a total of 17 Star Trek games released for PC, many of them with a multiplayer component.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_games

I suggest you check your facts sir.

Even people who have never played an MMO in their life bought this game because they are trekkies.

Which proves nothing, other than the fact that Star Trek has fans, which we already knew.

So you may as well stop all these fail threads about Lifers starting to bail, or how bad the game is as it will simply not fail. The games is getting more and more content as well, the development continues, the Trekies would be happy as it is at the moment, or how it was at release. 

So people should stop expressing opinions about the game just because it makes the Trekkies happy?

Honestly, you have no way of knowing who is or isn't satisfied on any real scale, and the blanket statements of yours only add weight to the fact that you cannot come up with any facts or figures to back up your claims.

So if you want to slate a game then I advise you try another game, maybe one that does not have an IP that is as famous as Star Trek, I would suggest WAR, but even that has a strong following, so try Tabula Rasa (oh sorry that folded already), try Vangurad, yes that is a prime candidate for a fail thread as even the producers(Sony) want it to fail so you will have more success there seeing a failed game, than you will ever do here.

 I think you mean "slander", not slate, slate makes no sense in the context you are speaking.

Regardless, just because the game is riding the coat-tails of an IP made famous by the TV Shows and Movies is no reason for people to stop posting how they feel.

Why you all want to see fail games in this genre is beyond me as it is incredibly short sighted for a person who is registered on MMORPG forum to see the downfall of any MMO, as one day you may find that all MMOs have folded besides the mainstreams ones like WoW, which the majority of people on these forums don't like anyway, but yet do not give other MMO producers a chance, even if you don't like the games they produce and think they are bad does not mean that you should try and put them down as this is contrary to being an MMO enthusiast(which you are as you are reading this and no doubt have an account on these forums). 

Different people like different things, it's not a new concept.

Once again though, who are you to try and tell people what they should or should not think? Just because someone is an enthusiast of a certain genre of gaming does not imply that they have to like every game that the genre produces, nor that they should stop expressing opinions (negative or otherwise).

Give MMO producers another chance? Cryptic has had more than enough chances, and they had a golden ticket to success this time because of the IP's fame, yet they squandered the opportunity and produced a pile of half-rate trash that, frankly, any developer worth his stripes would be ashamed to show to the public, especially in the state it has degenerated into since launch.

And yes you may go on about how you don't want crap games etc but that is not how these things work, there has to a phase of crap games for good ones to come through(or any other product), so leave the slating of games to people who do not care about this genre and instead offer constructive criticism and ideas on how to make games better rather than just shouting fail all the time like an empty vessel(any numpty can do that), if you have nothing constructive to say then just keep quiet, as you are no better than those that you are slating in the first place TBH.

Here you go again telling people to clam up just because you don't like what they have to say. That is incredibly shortsighted and rather callous in its own right.

Plenty of us offered constructive criticism for months following launch and Cryptic dropped the ball repeatedly.

Remember the fiasco when they chose members for the Advisory Council? That was an absolute joke and helped solidify opinions on just how out of touch Cryptic is with what fans truly want to see from the IP.

Thank you for your time. Hopefully you have learnt something about yourself and how to support your interest instead of shooting yourself in the foot.

The word is learned, learnt is not a real word (just fyi).

Many of us will continue to support our interests however we choose to do so and I certainly will not be swayed from doing so just because you happen to disagree with my methods or opinions. The fact that you want people to act this way only lends merit to the opinion that the game is in a poor state, because if it were not, you would want people to talk about the game instead of trying to force them to keep quiet.

 

The fact that you want people to act this way only lends merit to the opinion that the game is in a poor state, because if it were not, you would want people to talk about the game instead of trying to force them to keep quiet.

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Hi Guys

Well I though I would pop in again to see how this game has Grown.. :-( .. Well I think shrink is the word to use now. I see all the Captains have abandoned ship ...Zink .>Roper .. And I see they are really spiting fire from there marketing engine.

Also I read the last review on MMORPG ... you cannot be be serious ..7. What! Some other site also had a re-Review ..I mean gosh its only what 8 months old!

I see there Forums have toned down but that to be expected if you don't have subscribes any longer!

Shame ... real dead duck this one. Someone should just shoot it! Its a shame to let a IP suffer like this! Then they also got NWN... what's this world coming too!

Sad day for those IP's