I port to Stormwind on Argent Dawn server only to find like 20-30 human mages floating in the air in certain positions so to spell the name of a gold selling website. Than, after a few minutes of aerial acrobatic advertising, these guys tumbled back to the ground and literally speed hacked away while running through buildings and walls.

I didn't realize WoW even had speed, wall and fly hacks, lol. Can Blizzard even prevent any type of hacking in their game?

Prevent how? delete those 50 free trial accounts that did that? and that will help how? ...

as a defend for the matter i have to say this is not only world of warcraft nor blizzards problem.

its every game and developers problem now, for one fresh example i was playing All Points Bulletin from pre order.

from very first day i saw gold sell spams.

cheers

also i think you really ment the hacks they used but meh.

What i would be more worried about is if they can do this on a live server how safe are the players on that server i mean can they get your personal infomation. If they can hack no telling how much info they have now.

Just drop a train set under them. They reset and you won't see them back for a few days. The gold farmers get really pissed off and tend to stay away from servers that have people laying down trains that wreck their flying orcs and humans.

That is priceless about the train set and I imagine anything the forces other players to emote will have the same effect.  Like the dancing piccolo, etc.

Gold sellers suck.

Originally posted by branko2307

Prevent how? delete those 50 free trial accounts that did that? and that will help how? ...

There are still some mmo's that don't have hack problems. IP-banning is more effective than just banning an account/character since it blocks the actual computer altogether.

Originally posted by Czanrei

Originally posted by branko2307

Prevent how? delete those 50 free trial accounts that did that? and that will help how? ...

There are still some mmo's that don't have hack problems. IP-banning is more effective than just banning an account/character since it blocks the actual computer altogether.

Yep FFX doesnt have these problems they have a massive security department.

If blizzard got rid the hackers, bots, and platfarmers....

they lose roughly 10% of their entire player base. Thats a generous number, the survey I read about was higher than that (18%).

Then if you count the people who just TRIED using a bot (not actual users, but curious people), that number is at least doubled.

Originally posted by Murdus

If blizzard got rid the hackers, bots, and platfarmers....

 

they lose roughly 10% of their entire player base. Thats a generous number, the survey I read about was higher than that (18%).

 

Then if you count the people who just TRIED using a bot (not actual users, but curious people), that number is at least doubled.

This is a mute point because most of those you stated pay with stolen credit cards.

Just passing through, but you are making several accusations here with no proof to support your conclusions..

Where is the data that supports any of the claims in this thread?

Originally posted by Wicoa

Originally posted by Czanrei

Originally posted by branko2307

Prevent how? delete those 50 free trial accounts that did that? and that will help how? ...

There are still some mmo's that don't have hack problems. IP-banning is more effective than just banning an account/character since it blocks the actual computer altogether.

Yep FFX doesnt have these problems they have a massive security department.

 They dont have these problems because there is no money to be made.  Its like the whole WIndows vs. Mac argument.  It is not that Mac is leaps and bounds more secure, its just a shitload of more people use Windows as opposed to Macs, thus giving hackers a bigger playground.  Why would gold spammers put the time and effort into a dying mmorpg that is famous for incredible grinding by its playerbase?  Wait till the new FF mmorpg comes out and see how massive that security department seems then.

Originally posted by Czanrei

Originally posted by branko2307

Prevent how? delete those 50 free trial accounts that did that? and that will help how? ...

There are still some mmo's that don't have hack problems. IP-banning is more effective than just banning an account/character since it blocks the actual computer altogether.

This is what I don't understand. Why not just block all IP logins from Asia for NA clients? It's obvious most of these gold sellers are from China so it would at least improve the issue. Even if they are running through hosted IPs in NA, that's usually a paid service so it'll make it rougher on them. Just seems like they could be doing a lot more to stop it.

The gold spam on EU servers just now is a major problem.

Nothing new really, it's been happening in WoW for years.

Originally posted by ZenNature

Originally posted by Czanrei

Originally posted by branko2307

Prevent how? delete those 50 free trial accounts that did that? and that will help how? ...

There are still some mmo's that don't have hack problems. IP-banning is more effective than just banning an account/character since it blocks the actual computer altogether.

 

This is what I don't understand. Why not just block all IP logins from Asia for NA clients? It's obvious most of these gold sellers are from China so it would at least improve the issue. Even if they are running through hosted IPs in NA, that's usually a paid service so it'll make it rougher on them. Just seems like they could be doing a lot more to stop it.

Wrong. Typical assumption by the average person which obviously you are. Most gold sellers / farmers are in fact no longer from china, there is maybe a mere 1% out there.  China made virtual currency illegal, as there will always be a few smart enough to get around with the loophole, but most Goldsellers/sites are from North America and Europe. FYI try whois on somewebsites to find out exactly who owns the site, and where they are from.

I do agree tho they need to find an effective way to ban people, because IP banning is the most ineffective way for a company to ban someone. You can just use a work around IP address (Proxy) by numerous websites that let you use there their IPs and show you are from a completely different country, for free, and specifically for gaming reasons.

Originally posted by ZenNature

Originally posted by Czanrei

Originally posted by branko2307

Prevent how? delete those 50 free trial accounts that did that? and that will help how? ...

There are still some mmo's that don't have hack problems. IP-banning is more effective than just banning an account/character since it blocks the actual computer altogether.

 

This is what I don't understand. Why not just block all IP logins from Asia for NA clients? It's obvious most of these gold sellers are from China so it would at least improve the issue. Even if they are running through hosted IPs in NA, that's usually a paid service so it'll make it rougher on them. Just seems like they could be doing a lot more to stop it.

 It is easy to get around regional P blocks with proxies so that would only deter the honest players in asia.

if you think they hack the game and somehow steal your personal data, then your a moron. lol. Hacking in WoW was pretty big at release, people using uber items, and one hit kill hacks. Though, they've pretty much made these impossible to use now, without being caught/band. You use to be able to teleport to where ever u wanted. (i never used this but was very aware of them).

And gold spam is a major problem on... like uh.. most games, especially f2p ones. I seen a few games combat it. (DDO for example, i ain't seen one on there). However.. when your the biggest game on the market SOMEONE will find a way to spam gold, and get their websites out there. Regardless of their attempts. Chinse people just make way to much money off it. 

Stop QQing about WoW holy crap! play another game! lol 

Originally posted by Beachcomber

The gold spam on EU servers just now is a major problem.

 that's why you have anti spam addons which are proof and every player should not haven General and Trade chat open as we all know how crap the WOW playerbase is so better just use the guildchat and nothing else.

Originally posted by shepx22

Originally posted by ZenNature

Originally posted by Czanrei

Originally posted by branko2307

Prevent how? delete those 50 free trial accounts that did that? and that will help how? ...

There are still some mmo's that don't have hack problems. IP-banning is more effective than just banning an account/character since it blocks the actual computer altogether.

 

This is what I don't understand. Why not just block all IP logins from Asia for NA clients? It's obvious most of these gold sellers are from China so it would at least improve the issue. Even if they are running through hosted IPs in NA, that's usually a paid service so it'll make it rougher on them. Just seems like they could be doing a lot more to stop it.

Wrong. Typical assumption by the average person which obviously you are. Most gold sellers / farmers are in fact no longer from china, there is maybe a mere 1% out there.  China made virtual currency illegal, as there will always be a few smart enough to get around with the loophole, but most Goldsellers/sites are from North America and Europe. FYI try whois on somewebsites to find out exactly who owns the site, and where they are from.

I do agree tho they need to find an effective way to ban people, because IP banning is the most ineffective way for a company to ban someone. You can just use a work around IP address (Proxy) by numerous websites that let you use there their IPs and show you are from a completely different country, for free, and specifically for gaming reasons.

That's ridiculous to say I'm wrong and just the average person when you can't track it, and you have no idea who I am. You can easily see they are primarily from China by looking at the websites they advertise, and/or talking to them. You obviously haven't tried tracking many of their website locations as I have, because I am more then happy to report them if I find they are in the US. Beside the point, try talking to them in chinese and seeing how they respond. I know enough to give em a hard time, and every single advertiser I have chatted with speaks chinese way better then I do. Why do you think that is Mr. Not-Average person? You think they are just a bundle of americans working in chinatown?

Edited for clarification on the whois garbage.