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  MMO.Maverick

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OP  7/12/10 7:13:09 AM#121
Originally posted by deviliscious

Those complaining about the " skimpy" outfits then calling for realism boggle me. Considering in History it was very common for Warrior women and women leaders to go either topless or completely naked. LOL!

So you should have no problem with this:

Hatshepsut

Ah, but the same applied for the men If I recal correctly the Greeks liked to have their Olympics done naked (now that'd be an interesting take if it happened with the current Olympics), even in battles they'd go as good naked sometimes, and they were not the only cultures where the men went bare into battle.

 

So, following up on your argument, something like this should be acceptable too:

Originally posted by Elikal

Well, we need fairness. I want sexy looking male characters in skimpy gear EVERYWHERE! Muahahaha! XD

Let's show the girls who the REAL good looking gender is.

If you find THAT absurd... maybe you rethink your attitude that scantly clad women are ok. It's either both or none.

 

Heh, the pic is hilarious. But the point the pic and the poster makes is a good one: either both or none.

It's merely the case that it's currently more culturally acceptable for women to run around half (and more) naked in music videos and games and such than for men doing the same.

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  VikingGamer

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7/12/10 10:45:36 AM#122

Why are women more often revealed in these games then men? Because the idealized feminine form is beautiful. Woman is a work of art. A man might be impressive in strength but nothing captivates the mind like the vision of a beautiful woman. Men wish to have her and women wish to be her.

Realism? None of this is even close. Real combat and conflict is swift and decisive. A guy gets stabbed in the gut with a sword, crumples over, probably whimpers for his mother and then bleeds out as his brain tries to deal with the pain. The person who gets the upperhand in the first few seconds of the battle is usually the one that wins. The dying part usually takes longer than the fight. None of this makes for good game play. There is a reason that boxing and even UFC has so many rules. It is so a fight might last more than a few hits.

It is even less realistic when you mix men and women fighting, or gnomes and orcs for that matter. Size and strength matters in hand to hand combat. Having 50 or 100 lbs advantage is huge. Again, this is why modern ring fights are split up according to weight class.

So is it unrealistic for a 110 lb woman to swing a 50 lb broadsword in high heals and a skirt? Sure it is, but not much more so than it is for her to swing that broadsword at all and make solid contact.  Hell, most men who sit in front of a computer for extended parts of the day wouldn't be able to swing that broadsword much better.

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  gwenwyn

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7/13/10 1:06:41 AM#123
Originally posted by VikingGamer

 Men wish to have her and women wish to be her.

Actually, I don't wish to be her.  I'd be bleedin' cold, and getting sick all the time, my womanly parts hanging out like that.  The woman I want to be like isn't always pretty, but sure hits hard as hell and can take a punch like a champ.  I mean, thing is, the women are made JUST for the men.  Not really for the women.  I wish, instead of making my boobs bigger (like some advanced char creations allow) that I could give her decent biceps.  Maybe a slight beard.  No, no, sorry.  Maybe not that XD

It is true that realism, true realism, isn't what the games are about.  It is about fantasizing - and the problem is that only one gender is given true freedom to explore those fantasies.  As long as skimpy outfits are mandatory, the games will truly pander only to men.  Women are allowed in on sufferance (while guys get to complain that not enough ladies play).   I would not ask a man to cover up his lovely female chars, if he enjoys watching her jiggly boobs as she runs, just as I wouldn't cover up my guy chars chest when I'm feelin' frisky. 

  Aemi

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7/13/10 2:14:40 AM#124

We all wear things that reveal parts of our body. Women wear form fitting clothes. That's not a myth o.o We do. Men do not. I'd rather wear somethign revealing them something super ugly and bulky. I want to feel feminine, even while playing a game. So honestly, don't care. As long as the outfit is pretty, I'm happy. Some go over the top, but I tend not to play those games anyway, so I could care less. The outfits in say Mabinogi are <3. And all MMO's should have a billion dresses and outfits to try on like that.

  anothername

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7/13/10 3:58:12 AM#125
Originally posted by cyphers

It's something that has me curious for a while now: the armor for female characters in MMORPG's.

 

Yes, I know the adagium, 'sex sells', and they're games, not based on reality, but really, when you look at a lot of the skimpy outfits in a lot of the MMORPG's, like also the latest one TERA, then you have to wonder:  what are they protecting against?

The only thing I can realistically think of is mosquitos flying in unwanted holes, but certainly the armor is no real protection against sharp swords and arrows. A few strips of leather or metal as armor is stretching believability, it makes one wonder that with one slash it'd all fall off anyway (now that'd add a new dimension to combat, armor that would get rent and removed when damaged enough in fights).

 

MMORPG's are not that unique in this image of women running around scantily clad, we've grown used to it in all kinds of advertisement, in music video clips (R&B and Britney Spears-type singers), and also in other singleplayer games. You certainly won't hear the majority of men complain about it - although, if the armor for male chars would become as sexy and skimpy so they'd have to run around as gigolo strippers I'm guessing a lot of male players would find it too 'gay' for their taste.

 

But I wonder: what do girl/woman gamers think of it, the female chars often having to run around in armor that's sometimes nothing more than a enhanced bikini set, while the male chars have more suitable armor?

 

And to the male gamers, would you care if the armor of male chars would undergo a 'sexification' and make you run around as a Chippendale stripper, or could you care less since it's pixels, nothing else?

Oh yeahh... these damn fantasy chippendalers...

like this? or him? Ohh... that one? And this... totally overdone. And that... eeww...

No, I really cannot understand where they got all this ideas in gaming.

  merrua

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7/13/10 12:29:06 PM#126

I think game designers in general don't really think that women want to look cool, and skimpy pieces of string and panties are not what most women consider cool.

I think the best system is when a game lets all toons pick their own style and offer a range to pick from. Some prefer the rogue like look, some like heavy plate, some like lots of cloth covering them and some like wearing very little (however if i see a female character wearing little and looking like a ho, i think man, and im 99% right)

But in games we most see that the better games dont force women to wear rubbish clothes, wow for instance mostly lets you wear cool things, same with eq2, same with lotro, same with fallen earth.

I have given feedback against it in all the games I played where I was force to wear tiny clothes (warhammer) or wear it kept being pushed in my face (ROM). I find it insulting.

  Aeshril

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7/13/10 1:08:43 PM#127

Personally, I think it might be embarassing to run around with nothing but a g-string and two bra sizes to small, with a 2h sword.  But ....

 

We need to compensate instead of bringing down the community for liking female characters running around with Mithril G-string armor and metal clad A cup bras made of Mithril when our boobs are DDs, we need to make armor like this.

 

Naruto Online Armor

http://img6.imageshack.us/f/collectiveofhawtnarutoc.jpg/

 

Dragon Ball Z Online Armor

http://img807.imageshack.us/f/dbzshirtless.jpg/

 

Sasuke Naruto Armor

http://img16.imageshack.us/f/sasukenoshirt.jpg/

 

Twilight Online Armor

http://img267.imageshack.us/f/twilightonline.jpg/

 

The Shirtless look for dudes hasn't been invented in MMOs without suffering from stat lose or  not having any armor on.  I purpose an option to turn off the chest of male characters, so it will reveal the chestol area.  Or create armor that reveals the males six pack but has trips of clothing.

Example:

Robe or Trench Coat with no under shirt

Trip of lingering clothing that is haning off like it has been torn and worn out

A no shirt look with a leather strip across the chest.

 

And ..... everything will be equal.

Males and Females can live together in armory knowing that there armor is not practical, but it gets da ladies .... or guys ..... w/e your taste ........

  dirtyjoe78

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7/13/10 4:07:14 PM#128
Originally posted by Produde
Originally posted by dlld

Here's some screens of the male of the same race in OP

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/gallery/main/54/castanic_m_l14.jpg

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/gallery/main/54/castanic_m_l05.jpg

 

But i would argue that the males are already "sexified" just as much as the females when they are completely covered in armor. How many males look like budy builders and are able to do the stuff they generally are able to do in games completely covered with probably half a ton of steel? Not to mention the weapons.

Just because they aren't showing skin doesn't mean they aren't "sexified".

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/gallery/main/54/castanic_m_l14.jpg

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/gallery/main/54/castanic_m_l05.jpg

 Those dudes...specially the one in the white...look like they should be dancing in the Blue Oyster Bar.

  bastionix

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7/13/10 4:23:40 PM#129
Originally posted by dirtyjoe78
Originally posted by Produde
Originally posted by dlld

Here's some screens of the male of the same race in OP

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/gallery/main/54/castanic_m_l14.jpg

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/gallery/main/54/castanic_m_l05.jpg

 

But i would argue that the males are already "sexified" just as much as the females when they are completely covered in armor. How many males look like budy builders and are able to do the stuff they generally are able to do in games completely covered with probably half a ton of steel? Not to mention the weapons.

Just because they aren't showing skin doesn't mean they aren't "sexified".

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/gallery/main/54/castanic_m_l14.jpg

http://tera-online.cc/uploads/gallery/main/54/castanic_m_l05.jpg

 Those dudes...specially the one in the white...look like they should be dancing in the Blue Oyster Bar.

Those look so bad. The skin looks like it's made of....pancakes or something.

  Ozivois

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7/13/10 4:23:44 PM#130

The Large Developer games (SOE, Blizzard, etc.) always seemed to have overclothed the females in my opinion.  Even the M-rated AoC only had a few classes that dressed skimpy, but the heavy armor classes were covered up.  Same for the guys.

 

Its those cheesy Eastern Dev's games that got it all screwed up, don't blame MMOs, blame them.

  LadyAlibi

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7/13/10 5:07:45 PM#131

I know I posted previously, but I wanted to add that, although I am female, I play some male characters, and I'm not ashamed that I like a little eye-candy in my male characters too. I've noticed that it seems like a lot of (*ahem* Western, subscription) games have given a lot less thought to the male models than to the female. I've played some really good (burly) looking males in some games, though. I am in favor of a choice for men too.

 

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  Scot

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7/15/10 2:31:36 AM#132

More err...babecake! Just say no to tops! :D

  darqk

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7/15/10 1:42:11 PM#133

 


Originally posted by Ihmotepp

 

Is that the Jungle Queen from The Maxx?

If so.... God I loved that show. Mr. Gone is friggin awesome, and I quote him very often.

Eh, what? Jungle Queen? Maxx?? Mr Gone??? Out of reference scope, at least mine


 

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  Madimorga

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7/15/10 2:30:58 PM#134

I think I like my female character's armor in Fallen Earth.  She's actually dressed, and she looks badass, as opposed to looking like a hooker with her ass hanging out.

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  Edli

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7/15/10 2:34:04 PM#135
Originally posted by Madimorga

I think I like my female character's armor in Fallen Earth.  She's actually dressed, and she looks badass, as opposed to looking like a hooker with her ass hanging out.

Hookers can be badass too sometimes. You know, dominatrix :P

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7/16/10 3:21:00 PM#136

 

I don't think it really matters anymore.

Entertainment purpose games are going to adhere to the 'sex sells' guidelines regardless. But just once I wouldn't mind trying a game that was more true to the 'less armor less protection' theory.

I.E you want your female avatar to run around half naked so you can watch her jiggle thats your choice, but you should suffer due to lack of armor in hitboxes.

 

I don't see any female cops running around only wearing kevlar bras and panties, do you?

 

But there should be some restrictions for certain games, like a lot of the mmo's geared towards the under 18 crowd seem to have some pretty risque clothing options..

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  Greiztoph

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4/21/13 1:49:51 AM#137

I stumbled across this thread because lately I've been seeing ads for mmo and their only selling point they state is this game has 18+ plugins while they are showing some sexy pixel female wearing a skimpy robe type thing. I might just be old or something but unrealistic armor on females actually bothers me in games has caused me stop playing them sometimes.

 

I'm a male btw and no I'm not gay.

Yes I know this is an old thread however it has a good point

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