I come to this site hoping to find a sliver of good news, and it never comes.  It's the same old thing. It seems there are only a few games doing well, and the rest are just tanking.  I had hoped Vanguard was getting some new life, but despite the many positive comments about the game play, it seems everyone has given up since SOE has it on life support only.  I had hoped maybe Fallen Earth had improved and gained a decent population, but people say it still pretty much sucks and the population is low.

I'm so tired of looking on the horizon toward new games that either never seem to come, or tank on launch.  Is anyone playing anything besides WoW, Eve, or Lotro that is a great game with a thriving population and community?  Are these really the dark times of MMOs or are people just spread across so many of them now that having a large community is a pipe dream?

I guess we have to settle with what we have... Luckily there's some good things on the horizon atleast.

Well theres always Aion, STO and well...from the bigger more recent things that is it, but just becouse a game isnt full doesnt mean its not worth your time. City of Heroes is doing pretty well, Lineage 2 is still around, even SW Galaxies has people playing. That being said I sometimes have the same feeling, especially now that i have grown tired of WoW. Ive been playing alot of f2p games but theyre quality is nowhere near the big mmo no matter what people claim. The good thing is that once this drought is over there will be many simply huge mmos. DC Universe, GW2, SW ToR, Warhammer Dark Millenium, Rift, Tera all very promising games. If waiting bother you so much you could observe STO for a bit. They seem to have gotten the general idea of what the players want and are going in the right direction for once by fleshing out the Klingon side. If you would like a more action packed game I say go for Global Agenda. Right now the game is hellafun and soon there will be a massive patch adding an mmo type zone. If this games retains the playerbase I hope that it will become a bit like Planetside. I think its quite likely really. Bigger more open world may mean large scale battles at some point.

Originally posted by Quirhid

I guess we have to settle with what we have... Luckily there's some good things on the horizon atleast.

Really? Cause I have been watching that Horizon for about five years now, and it seems to be the keeper of failure.  I have no reason at all to believe any of the games set for the next two years will do anything but tank.

I'm just sick of looking forward is all.  I need something interesting to play now.

Darkfall is steadily growing in population.

EQII is fine..

The dark times? Man, you're gaming during the boon of MMORPGs!  How about when your choices were Ultima Online or Everquest?  Or when there was FFXI and SWG?

Originally posted by TaoMcDohl

The dark times? Man, you're gaming during the boon of MMORPGs!  How about when your choices were Ultima Online or Everquest?  Or when there was FFXI and SWG?

You mean back when the mmos didn't suck?  Yeah, I would love those days back.  A 'boon' of crap games really isn't a boon at all.

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Originally posted by TaoMcDohl

The dark times? Man, you're gaming during the boon of MMORPGs!  How about when your choices were Ultima Online or Everquest?  Or when there was FFXI and SWG?

You mean bsck when the mmos didn't suck?  Yeah, I would love those days back,  A 'boon' of crap games really isn't a boon at all.

Looks like you're SOL.  Better find a new genre to play.

I agree with the OP, nothing else to play, I even had to change of genre, now I am playing fps, waiting on either  Swtor, GW2 or Tera and yeah we do have a bunch of MMO's but only like 10% of them are worth trying.

 TV used to be 4 channels, 6 or so if you were lucky enough to be near a big city.  ... and there was almost always something worth watching because shows made money.

Now with cable and 200+ channels plus PPV and despite all the variety the quality has gone down.  There simply isn't enough money to fund them all properly.  A few great shows make decent money and the rest  don't.

The same happens in MMORPGs.

My suggestions are to either go with a winner in the AAA market, of find a niche game and accept that it won't look like it was made with a fifty-million dollar budget.

FFXIV comes out in 2 and half months, GW2 and SW:TOR within the next 6-12months. Seriously you have no interest in any of the big 3 on the horizon?

I am getting tired of WoW too, but Cata is coming and I will get sucked into the lvl and gear grind once again, especially withn dungeon finder

Well you want to know why the MMORPG genre has gotten like this?

Well here's the answer.

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/283918/Guild-Wars-2-contradicting-itself-about-the-No-Quest-feature.html

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/283939/Disgruntled-dedicated-haters-of-mmos-why-cant-they-move-on.html

IMO this site alone proves my point, that WE the consumers are the reason this genre is so fucked up.

My Thread was closed and I was accused of trolling, because I exposed once again, the Bull Shit Lies and Hype that Developers are constantly tossing around at this community of gamers.

Yet,

What do we do?
I will tell you,,,, each and everytime, our own community turns on the Hype Critics
and allow Developers to Over hype to sell boxes without delivering on their promises.

Just look right there in the first thread, to see how Developers are now using scam tactics, of changing game terms, and claiming that makes it new and original.

Come on,,,
 

Check this out

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/showpost.php?p=209004&postcount=15

If I criticize anything, i get labeled a WoW fanboy.
 

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/anyone-else-happy-with-gw2-t3695p9.html

History doesnt repeat History,, People Repeat History.

And past records show, people on this site, blindly support MMORPG games while blinded by fanbosim, that they never criticize anything a developer says. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE DEVELOPER DOESNT EVEN HAVE MEDIA TO BACK UP THOSE CLAIMS.

Remember Darkfall Forum during its hype phase? Damn, were the Mods here Bias as well.

Same thing happening now with SWTOR and GW2.
Both are being shielded from Criticism, by both the Fanboys and the Bias Mods here on this site and other MMO sites.

This Genre has been EXPOSED

Originally posted by ActionMMORPG

 TV used to be 4 channels, 6 or so if you were lucky enough to be near a big city.  ... and there was almost always something worth watching because shows made money.

 

Now with cable and 200+ channels plus PPV and despite all the variety the quality has gone down.  There simply isn't enough money to fund them all properly.  A few great shows make decent money and the rest  don't.

 

The same happens in MMORPGs.

 

My suggestions are to either go with a winner in the AAA market, of find a niche game and accept that it won't look like it was made with a fifty-million dollar budget.

an interesting comparison however: Imagine if all 200 channels were all playing shows that attempted to recreate/copy the 1 top show.

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Originally posted by ActionMMORPG
 TV used to be 4 channels, 6 or so if you were lucky enough to be near a big city.  ... and there was almost always something worth watching because shows made money.
 
Now with cable and 200+ channels plus PPV and despite all the variety the quality has gone down.  There simply isn't enough money to fund them all properly.  A few great shows make decent money and the rest  don't.
 
My suggestions are to either go with a winner in the AAA market, of find a niche game and accept that it won't look like it was made with a fifty-million dollar budget.

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This is so true unfortunately.

The market is way oversaturated and the players are spread around so many deiiferent titles, that only the old titles that were constantly developed over the past years seem to flourish: WoW for themepark and EvE for sandbox.

We could use a SciFi-themepark for the people that like the WoWesque game-system which seems to be coming in the form of SWTOR and then we need something like EvE without the space-ships, which seems to be coming in the form of Earthrise.

Other then that there's only short-term-attractions released over and over again, which stop being developed after they've made the developer a reasonable amount of profit.

Most developers don't want to create a lasting game with a good community these days, which is the problem to begin with, just like all the mediocre TV-shows, that never see the second season.

Darkfall Wants YOU!

Originally posted by wow.pwns111

Originally posted by ActionMMORPG

 TV used to be 4 channels, 6 or so if you were lucky enough to be near a big city.  ... and there was almost always something worth watching because shows made money.

 

Now with cable and 200+ channels plus PPV and despite all the variety the quality has gone down.  There simply isn't enough money to fund them all properly.  A few great shows make decent money and the rest  don't.

 

The same happens in MMORPGs.

 

My suggestions are to either go with a winner in the AAA market, of find a niche game and accept that it won't look like it was made with a fifty-million dollar budget.

an interesting comparison however: Imagine if all 200 channels were all playing shows that attempted to recreate/copy the 1 top show.

Have you watched primetime cable lately? they are still trying to copy sienfeld.

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Originally posted by Arezon
Darkfall Wants YOU!

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Why should anyone want to play this game? No content makes for a pretty boring game usually.

Originally posted by jrs77

 

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Originally posted by Arezon
Darkfall Wants YOU!

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Why should anyone want to play this game? No content makes for a pretty boring game usually.

If you believe there is no content in Darkfall then you are misinformed.

If you want your hand held every step of the way, then stick with WoW.

Originally posted by Netzoko

Darkfall is steadily growing in population.

Well, yes but it started with very few players and is still very small. Great that it grows and have enough people to stay afloat but comparing it to Wow, Eve and LOTRO is wrong, it is more like Vanguard and similar smaller MMOs.

There are a few other MMOs with OK population, like EQ2, AoC, AION and a few more. AoC probably have more players right now than LOTRO (who is going F2P soon) and AION have more than both Eve and LOTRO even if most of the players are Korean.

Then there are the F2P MMOs.

But the fact is that few full budget games have been made by competent devs the last few years. That is however changing now, Arenanet, Square-Enix, CCP and Bioware are all releasing games soon and I can't think of any as experienced devs that has released a game since 2004.

So there will be a few larger games soon, FF XIV is releasing in September. OP is probably right that not all of those games will hold up to it's promise but one or 2 is good enough.

Things will change, making a good MMO takes a long time and cost a lot of money so there can just be so many games in development at the same time.

And if you want something to compare: EQ was 6 years old when Wow released. Wow is 6 years now, it should be time for something soon.