shouldn't you be progressing in eve or something? you fail on many occasions in this thread lumps 

Originally posted by Sid_Vicious

It has nothing to do with long term character progression as much as who found a sweeter macro spot and did what while they were sleeping/working . .. Banning macroing fixes nothing.

Sure I miss the advantage that I had but I would much rather be excited that more people are going to play.

its clear to me that you are just a selfish person.  just b/c a few players exploited you want to ruin the game for those who put forth the effort to develop their chars.  you arent willing to put forth the effort to compete on an even level with those who were so why should you be handed advantages that took them several months to attain?  its welfare gaming, AV caved to the whiners and made game more about numbers than skill and hard work.  see you really want a grind, you just want it to be something you can handle enough so you that you can compete on equal terms with those who were willing to put forth 10x more effort into developing their chars than you.  Its not a 1v1 game either and lots of peoples have buddies to fight with so not everyone really needed 400 hp to play, its just that AV caved to the whiners crying about the HP gap, its a shame.  AV exhibits welfare gaming over and over and all the ignoramuses say its good for the game while the base of dedicated players slowly stop logging in and when some other gaming company copys DF model, well that will be the end of DF b/c all the niche DF had was long term character progression. 

Originally posted by ChinaCat

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

oh what the fuck ever, there is multiple people in VAMP that have millions and millions of gold (one has 55mill) because they duped, I'm sure there are tons of others in the game that have done the same damn thing, ... these are VETS mind you, that have endless money and resource because of it.

a noob gets 50 more HP quicker and  you can't shoot the ground and win via splash damage and you cry about it... are you kidding me ? he still needs to be able to afford good weapons, armor,  and a ass ton of reagents to skill up, before he's even close to the output damage of what a vet is doing.

funny how much "hardcore" people QQ , now lets go swim up against the wall some more, its fun!!!

I may have to stop trying to be nice.   You said in two brief paragraphs what its taken me a novel to say  lol

-CC

you should prob stop posting b/c his cry cry is completely unrelated to anything im saying.  fail troll is fail.

Originally posted by sacredcow4

So.... I've been playing Counter Strike for years.  I should do more damage and have more health than people who just begin the game.  Also I should have body armor and an awp/deagle every spawn.

I want all this because I invested in my character.  I am scared to have an even competitive field.  Please please please don't take away my advantage.  I'm hardcore and scared of noobs.  I don't welcome compitition.

 

Who does that sound like?  Sounds like a "hardcore pvper" from Darkfall.  90% of these "hardcore" kids are carebears in disguise.  The hardcore ones arn't complaining.  They are probably rejoicing because it is getting rid of you unskilled players and making it easier to have some real compitition.

dont you understand that mmorpgs have character progression and there are different games where you can just log in and aimbot?  seriosly think a little bit before you post.  comparing apples to oranges.

QQ more. Another vet crying that the game isn't easy mode for him anymore.

Originally posted by whitez

 

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ask Alt Ffour on NA server how long he has been playing and ask him to link you his skills on NA.  He will put you guys to shame, he already has near 350 hp and hasn't even been playing a month.

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that will tell us that he has no life?

seriuosly this guy makes everyone in this thread look like a huge whiney baby that doesn't want to life a finger .  he does what these crybabies say it takes 1 year to achieve of duping and exploiting and bloodwalling for months on end.

Originally posted by Mr.Lumps

Originally posted by ChinaCat

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

oh what the fuck ever, there is multiple people in VAMP that have millions and millions of gold (one has 55mill) because they duped, I'm sure there are tons of others in the game that have done the same damn thing, ... these are VETS mind you, that have endless money and resource because of it.

a noob gets 50 more HP quicker and  you can't shoot the ground and win via splash damage and you cry about it... are you kidding me ? he still needs to be able to afford good weapons, armor,  and a ass ton of reagents to skill up, before he's even close to the output damage of what a vet is doing.

funny how much "hardcore" people QQ , now lets go swim up against the wall some more, its fun!!!

I may have to stop trying to be nice.   You said in two brief paragraphs what its taken me a novel to say  lol

-CC

you should prob stop posting b/c his cry cry is completely unrelated to anything im saying.  fail troll is fail.

I don't think you even know what the hell you are saying to be honest. 

Originally posted by demonic87

QQ more. Another vet crying that the game isn't easy mode for him anymore.

another noob blaming the game for why he died?  suck it up and l2p

Originally posted by Mr.Lumps

Originally posted by demonic87

QQ more. Another vet crying that the game isn't easy mode for him anymore.

another noob blaming the game for why he died?  suck it up and l2p

aren't you the one that quit? why don't you suck it up and l2p with the new changes? rofl!

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by Mr.Lumps

Originally posted by ChinaCat

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

oh what the fuck ever, there is multiple people in VAMP that have millions and millions of gold (one has 55mill) because they duped, I'm sure there are tons of others in the game that have done the same damn thing, ... these are VETS mind you, that have endless money and resource because of it.

a noob gets 50 more HP quicker and  you can't shoot the ground and win via splash damage and you cry about it... are you kidding me ? he still needs to be able to afford good weapons, armor,  and a ass ton of reagents to skill up, before he's even close to the output damage of what a vet is doing.

funny how much "hardcore" people QQ , now lets go swim up against the wall some more, its fun!!!

I may have to stop trying to be nice.   You said in two brief paragraphs what its taken me a novel to say  lol

-CC

you should prob stop posting b/c his cry cry is completely unrelated to anything im saying.  fail troll is fail.

 

I don't think you even know what the hell you are saying to be honest. 

Originally posted by Mr.Lumps

Originally posted by demonic87

QQ more. Another vet crying that the game isn't easy mode for him anymore.

another noob blaming the game for why he died?  suck it up and l2p

Your the one who needs to l2p if your QQing on the forums about how you can't win anymore then quitting lol. As the darkfall forums would say, GSO. Anyways, you ARE blaming the game for why you die.

Originally posted by Devildog1

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

Originally posted by Mr.Lumps

Originally posted by ChinaCat

Originally posted by Vinterkrig

oh what the fuck ever, there is multiple people in VAMP that have millions and millions of gold (one has 55mill) because they duped, I'm sure there are tons of others in the game that have done the same damn thing, ... these are VETS mind you, that have endless money and resource because of it.

a noob gets 50 more HP quicker and  you can't shoot the ground and win via splash damage and you cry about it... are you kidding me ? he still needs to be able to afford good weapons, armor,  and a ass ton of reagents to skill up, before he's even close to the output damage of what a vet is doing.

funny how much "hardcore" people QQ , now lets go swim up against the wall some more, its fun!!!

I may have to stop trying to be nice.   You said in two brief paragraphs what its taken me a novel to say  lol

-CC

you should prob stop posting b/c his cry cry is completely unrelated to anything im saying.  fail troll is fail.

 

I don't think you even know what the hell you are saying to be honest. 

 

yea, you know whats good too nice games you play there. lol

Originally posted by demonic87

Originally posted by Mr.Lumps

Originally posted by demonic87

QQ more. Another vet crying that the game isn't easy mode for him anymore.

another noob blaming the game for why he died?  suck it up and l2p

Your the one who needs to l2p if your QQing on the forums about how you can't win anymore then quitting lol. As the darkfall forums would say, GSO. Anyways, you ARE blaming the game for why you die.

l2read  QQ more

dont forget, eve's had a lot longer to have its kinks ironed out (and i've been playing eve since late 06 so i know about them)!  And by the way, eve's had patches to make things easier for the masses as well (for instance, a lot of us veterans remember not being allowed to warp-to-zero).

but, as you can see y my "currently playing" list, ya i think eve's a better game and thus is getting my sandbox money :D  but DF still has time to improve.

Originally posted by itchmon

dont forget, eve's had a lot longer to have its kinks ironed out (and i've been playing eve since late 06 so i know about them)!  And by the way, eve's had patches to make things easier for the masses as well (for instance, a lot of us veterans remember not being allowed to warp-to-zero).

 

but, as you can see y my "currently playing" list, ya i think eve's a better game and thus is getting my sandbox money :D  but DF still has time to improve.

yea, darkfall is already killing their game, doing welfare gaming and killing long term progression, which is the only niche they really had.  Eve never caved to the whiners, if you dont like eve, you find another game.  I'm sure the babies who weren't willing to develop their chars have been trying to destroy that game for years and look how successful eve has become, its a competitive game and it has long term character progression that matters much more than Darkfall and look how succesful it is.  These whiners destroy everything that is good.  i wish they would just find a game that was easy enough for them instead of trying to turn every hard game into instant gratification land, that is every other mmorpg.  Problem is Darkfall is such a good game, these whiners cant find anything easy enough for them to play that is as much fun.  Everyone wants a grind but they want the grind to be enough that they can handle and still be able to compete on equal terms with the guy who has worked 100x harder to developtheir character.

These selfish entitled whiners who aren't willing to put for the effort but want to have same advantages as those that do just make me sick.  Its a real problem in society, all these welfare leeches expecting things to be handed to them that people have worked hard for.  Darkfall is not about welfare gaming.  You whiners know who you are, always trying to make the game easier for you, you are the death of all things good.

Originally posted by Mr.Lumps

Originally posted by demonic87

Originally posted by Mr.Lumps

Originally posted by demonic87

QQ more. Another vet crying that the game isn't easy mode for him anymore.

another noob blaming the game for why he died?  suck it up and l2p

Your the one who needs to l2p if your QQing on the forums about how you can't win anymore then quitting lol. As the darkfall forums would say, GSO. Anyways, you ARE blaming the game for why you die.

l2read  QQ more

You are the one QQing in yet another thread about how you can't win as easily when outnumbered now...

Cry me a river. Most people have actually reacted positively to the recent changes. It has brought some people like myself back to the game. You're just upset because it is actually SLIGHTLY more difficult to curb-stomp noobs now... its pathetic.

This thread reminds me of that iPhone4 vs. EVO video that's on YouTube..

..I don't care..

It prints money..

..I don't care..

Originally posted by Anubisan

Originally posted by Mr.Lumps

Originally posted by demonic87

Originally posted by Mr.Lumps

Originally posted by demonic87

QQ more. Another vet crying that the game isn't easy mode for him anymore.

another noob blaming the game for why he died?  suck it up and l2p

Your the one who needs to l2p if your QQing on the forums about how you can't win anymore then quitting lol. As the darkfall forums would say, GSO. Anyways, you ARE blaming the game for why you die.

l2read  QQ more

You are the one QQing in yet another thread about how you can't win as easily when outnumbered now...

Cry me a river. Most people have actually reacted positively to the recent changes. It has brought some people like myself back to the game. You're just upset because it is actually SLIGHTLY more difficult to curb-stomp noobs now... its pathetic.

when was it ever easy to win outnumbered? don't be stupid, you don't know what its like to be good, some people only find challenge in fighting outnumbered b/c 1v1 holds none.  yea im QQing now b/c the whiners got their way and AV will continue to cave, im not qqing about how the game needs to be made easier for me so I can compete on equal terms with those who are willing to develop their characters.

most people like WoW, your pathetic arguments are invalid.  scrubs had to destroy the only hard mmorpg left.

This topic is starting to veer off-course into a flamefest.

Keeping it open for now, just remember thou:

Flaming = Bad

Civilized Topic discussion = Good

I'll let you all decide.

Seems to me that you have made up your mind that everyone else in here is noobs and died in DF cause they couldnt handle the game, and you, yourself, is the uber leet gamer, who worked so hard for everything, so you should be awarded by being able to fight 2-5 people at a time without dieing.

And no matter what anyone have said to you in here, it seems like you are set to defend your OP no matter the cost, some of your replies looks plain stupid.

You should ask yourself why you opened this thread... to have a discussion about the topic, or to inform everyone that they suck, and you are leet??

It's clear that the only one whining in here is you, you want it your way or else you throw a tantrum temper.

well stomp your feet harder, cause it's not happening.

I see myself as a PvP'er, since that 's the only part of gaming I truly enjoy, I like to have alot of people to compete with, now if I die alot, suck, and need to L2P is really irrelvant to this discussion, since the question here is really:

"Is it fair that vet's who started at launch, will be ahead of the rest of the playerbase for a shorter amount of time than before?"

I don't see the problem here, you will still be a vet, you will still have the advantage of 1 year of playing the game, which should be sufficient in taking down 2 newbs+...

Regardless of some people catching up to you, then there will still be new players you can beat on, if you feel that you can't compete with the guys that have gained equal amount of game-skills.

Atleast there will be new people now that the grind is less tedious...

Bye.