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The Old Republic's Senior Producer Jake Neri sat down to answer some of our questions at this year's E3. Watch the larger video, here. Cheers, |
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6/21/10 9:48:47 AM#2
Yet again no real new content. Just the same old basic fighting. SHOW US THE ACTUAL GAME. not just stupid low level basic stuff. |
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6/21/10 11:26:57 AM#3
To elaborate on my previous reply, I meant we want to see gameplay actually beign played. complete with UI. ATM they are showing us nothing more than machinima pre-rendered scenes. |
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6/21/10 11:32:35 AM#4
I would say stop the hype, but I know they will not stop.... |
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6/21/10 11:38:55 AM#5
Originally posted by bobbyjr Pretty sure that: 1) UI is one of the last things that gets finalized, and who is to say that they won't allow for extensive customization of said UI? 2) and no, its not all pre-rendered scenes. Hell, the G4 interviews had people playing right there next to the interview going on, so there was "gameplay being played". |
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6/21/10 1:02:12 PM#6
Exactly as Severius said, " UI is one of the last things that gets finalized". I speak from experience of being in many betas from games. UI's are the last thing finalized as it can change extremly from looks to how its used from beta to release. I respect them for not showing the UI if it is not finalized. The demos at E3 were just probably temporary templates the players were using and most likely will change. People are stating they are not showing anything really new. Again, I believe its still to early to show content that maybe in deep testing and subject to change. After all the release is almost a year away. Take for instance World of Warcraft: Cataclysm. Blizzard announced months ago that there was going to be a Titan System put in place to allow more character developement in the new expansion at level cap. Now they have stated in an E3 interview their will not be a Titan system and instead be adding two more glyph slots to the current glyph system. I dont know about you, but I dont like being told one thing and look forward to it, and then later being told its not going to be done due to some changes. I rather a tight lipped company that works hard on a game and only states what needs to be said and not make any promises they cant deliver. |
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6/21/10 1:10:57 PM#7
The game's not even past the in-house testing phase, to expect much more info than they've released is asking a whole lot. During in-house testing significant changes to a class or skill could change drastically, so anything they show now (which will be taken by many hypersensitive fans as gospel) might not be in game later. That sets them up for more flack from folks who will (unrealistically) feel they've been lied to. Funcom, with AoC, revealed things they would have liked to implement in the game but were unable to do, and then were crucified for "promising" features that were never realized. Given Bioware's sterling reputation, I personally think they should reveal as little as possible, right up to launch. But since hyping a game years before release is an established marketing tactic, I don't see that happening. |
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6/21/10 1:28:42 PM#8
I understand the reasons for Bioware being so tight-lipped about the game at the moment but they're in a very precarious position. The teasing amount of info they're releasing is enough for players to start making assumptions about the game and that is an inevitable route to massive disappointment come release. They really need to stop announcing systems (like player ships) until they can announce everything about it at once and prevent players from expecting things that won't exist. The game also seems to be taking the same hype path that doomed several games in the past few years. They may not have had the same budget that TOR does but then Bioware still haven't proven themselves as MMO devs so the budget doesn't guarantee a good game. |
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6/21/10 3:01:30 PM#9
Originally posted by Alberel The assumptions are not biowares fault, but the potential players/fans of the game. You know what they say about assumptions? ;) One thing I have learned in the 15+ years of being a gamer is, if a third party source said it, dont expect it. Always get your information from the horses mouth. |
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6/21/10 3:07:34 PM#10
...Blah I wanted to go to sleep watching this vid. He is not a good PR person they should have just hired the extenze girl or hell even the guy. *zzZzzzz* The game itself, I am on the edge on currently until more information on guilds/pvp/CC is released. I see the few points above, I think the one guy is a bit pissy about the lack of depth to the players in the vids, it seems so.....boring. On that note, atleast bioware is not spamming us with a bunch of donkey droppings like warhammer did in all the Pr blitz. ( speaking of wheres Paul been rehab?) |
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6/21/10 3:22:10 PM#11
Oh so they continue to sound cocky in their interviews?... In a sense I trust Bioware. I am sure that they will create some sort of "omg great" storyline, but thats not the problem with TOR.
But they are doing it by sacrifficing KOTOR franchise.
Then they decided to make TOR story in such a way that makes previous two games completely pointless ("ha ha those characters you cared and wanted to know what happened? Well, they died, here go grind in this game"). Most of franchise fans expected "true sith" to be some sort of badasses, who look and feel unique and DIFFERENT from traditional, washed up "present day" Sith we have seen in the first two parts. Fans expected something new, frightening, something more in style with how Marka Ragnos was portrayed in Jedi Academy. Fans expected seeing Exile and Revan stop the threat. What did the fans get instead? A storyline set on intent to belittle two best characters of star wars game franchise. A storyline where "true sith" is nothing more than just yet another name for "sith" wielding the same lightsabers and playing Malak-cosplay. Suddenly everything we lived and experienced in two most awesome bioware games did not matter anymore. Suddenly the fantastic universe did not matter. Suddenly some random Jedi player named "XxxEdwardxxX" will be able to do something that EVEN Revan and Exile could not - organize a raid against "the true sith lord" and win~
Hopefully Bioware will turn out ok, TOR will actually live up to all the hype(i doubt this will happen) and Bioware will still have a decent share of customers even after all their hard work of alienating and destroying their KOTOR fanbase...
# A GRIM, ODD, ARCANE SKY |
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6/21/10 3:45:13 PM#12
Game will be crushed under the hype that Bioware is fueling. It may be a very good game but sadly the hype is so explosive very good will seem very poor. Should be entertaining to watch either way. |
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6/21/10 4:56:28 PM#13
anyone else getting tired of hearing the word heroic? |
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6/21/10 4:58:30 PM#14
What I got out of that interview is this... "Our direction for the game is moving forward but we dont' know where we want it to be." "We haven't considered alot of things and this is a massive undertaking that we are still not prepared for." "We are not sure what we are doing with this game at all." "But we are the best at what we do."
LOL seriously this game looks like it is many many years away, and I don't think they even know what the final game will be like. Can't wait for EA to tell them to start selling ahead of schedule...LOL. |
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6/21/10 8:42:05 PM#15
The more they talk. The less interested I become. |
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6/21/10 11:20:08 PM#16
After watching E3 2010 was greatly disappointed that EA/Bioware did not even bother to address the concerns that the DEAF Gamer Community had asked during the event that voice over game on purpose discriminate against the DEAF Gamer Community. Sad to say unless EA/Bioware changes thier tune and makes a public appology to the deaf community and by adding subtitles for deaf/hard-of-hearing gamers EA/Bioware stands to lose a large percentage of potential subscribers world wide. EA may have spent hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars investing in TOR it pales in comparison to the potential loss of money if the deaf community decides to boycott EA/Bioware. Since lot of the deaf have kin who are normal hearing folks it stands to reason that EA/Bioware could end up being a EPIC fail on launch day.
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6/22/10 12:37:10 AM#17
Originally posted by Thalarius I would be willing to bet, knowing there past games at least on consoles, not sure about there PC games, that in the options menu there will be an option for subtitles. But then again this is there first MMO and may have been an oversight. But really there is nothing we can do but watch and read whats going on until the game releases. |
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6/22/10 12:40:05 AM#18
Originally posted by Thalarius clearly having a fully voiced game is discrimination against the deaf. Gimme a break ![]() |
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6/22/10 2:32:54 AM#19
I suspect, like me, everyone who posted will buy the game - regardless of anything typed, filmed, blogged, or rumored on release date - regardless. Even if it's the Fall of 2012. I've got a closet full of MMOs I betaed, bought, and subbed only to find out they SUCK and there was JUST AS MUCH HYPE about them too. Same forum talk, same blog talk, same whining, same complaining, same dev interviews, same "it's gonna be the best eva", same "omg, it's gonna suck, hard!" It's all the effing same. "Insert Game Name Here." It's a LOT of hype which can only lead to disappointment. Just wait and see...in the meantime, grind out another pvp season epic set so you can look like every other nelf rogue. If BW manages the game like the pros over at Bliz, you'll NEVER have a full armor set of anything before another, better, shinier, prettier, uberer one is available - sound familiar? Everyone with starships? Lagships maybe, which requires 100 bling bling things to construct, that drop off one boss mob at the bottom of an 8 hour long dungeon, which takes a 25 man raid wipefest to reach, just so your guild leader can loot the bling!! I'd rather walk. OMG, I can't wait to play this one!! Look for me ingame, Sith Inquisitor "DarthPwn" If I have to explain it, you wouldn't understand. |
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6/22/10 7:18:56 AM#20
I know people are excited for the game. But look at it realistically. They are marketing it as a hybrid micro subscription based game. Plus they have shown very little in the way of actual gameplay. Almost everything that is not developer controlled has been machinima rendered scenes. Yet STILL for some unknown reason people are hyping this game up. Everything they have said makes it seem like wow with a starwars skin, except it has full voiceover ( why they feel they need that, who knows) |
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