You know i think what they might have done is given him an insane amount of health and possibly given his strength a level to which we cant attain i think that by doing that they can still keep the hes superman ordeal.

WEll basically it's simple because there can only be on answer that fits the unvierse. Kryptonite ...

Maybe Lex designed Krytonite clouds that could spread all over the atomosphere .. he had planned on removing supermans powers completely thus allowing him to be killed.  But (Since Kryptonite is so rare) he didn't have enough resources to create such an enviorment. THus only succeeding in reducing supermans power intensity while on earth. (we can assume that this is irrevesiable so supes can't just fly out and crush the clouds or something).

That sounds fair enough to me.

So with that said superman needs help now because he isn't as strong as he used to be.

and since its only earth that has been effected maybe some expansions can have supes go out to another planet and have full powers again for a HUGE encounter.

They shouldn't (and BETTER NOT) tone down anyone otherwise it's NOT D.C.

They just have to be creative in their story arcs and when/where to use the big boys.

Me and a friend were thinking about this the other day.  We decided that rather than superman types being weak.  That a kryptonian race should be an epic, unlockable character - something like Jedi in old swg, or deathknights in WoW or a better version of the squids in CoH/V.

Something where after you get to a certain level/quest whatever you now get this super super race.  Man I would love that.

Venge Sunsoar

Originally posted by Dana

Note, I'm jumping in here purely as a geek not as someone from the site... :)

But, to play devil's advocate, Superman pretty much breaks every superhero rule too. He's tough to balance and I suspect this may be one thing they pretty much cannot get right.

I've asked them exactly this question before and got that same answer. My guess is there will be more kryptonite situations than Smallville ;)  But who knows.

Regardless, even if people do just have to accept that Superman is no cooler than the other superheroes, it shouldn't matter much since his rules don't even apply to them obviously. For example, the "inspired by" function they have for people who want to base themselves around a certain guy are tough with Superman too. I never really got a full answer since he's basically just all of them combined. I suspect they're just going to have to dodge around this a lot to make a proper game.

 I never understood why someone didnt just fashion a bullet out of Kryptonite and shoot him in the heart years ago. I guess in Luthors future he finnaly did it, ( spearhead, not bullet) but still. Took long enough.

I think its safe to say Superman will be no harder than your average dungeon boss to defeat.

Originally posted by aleos

I think its safe to say Superman will be no harder than your average dungeon boss to defeat.

 Superman will smash the average player that attempts to attack him solo, same goes for all big name all stars like Joker, Batman etc. You would need either a full raid or the help of your own factions mega npc to take him on, as seen in the gameplay vid Superman vs Doomsday ( the games 1st pvp mission) where the players fought eachother while the big guns fought eachother. Best to just steer clear of Superman imo lol.

Thats what they did in Smallville, they made all kinds of Krypton weapons incase the Superman needs to be killed.

Originally posted by alexanys1982

Originally posted by Dana

Note, I'm jumping in here purely as a geek not as someone from the site... :)

But, to play devil's advocate, Superman pretty much breaks every superhero rule too. He's tough to balance and I suspect this may be one thing they pretty much cannot get right.

I've asked them exactly this question before and got that same answer. My guess is there will be more kryptonite situations than Smallville ;)  But who knows.

Regardless, even if people do just have to accept that Superman is no cooler than the other superheroes, it shouldn't matter much since his rules don't even apply to them obviously. For example, the "inspired by" function they have for people who want to base themselves around a certain guy are tough with Superman too. I never really got a full answer since he's basically just all of them combined. I suspect they're just going to have to dodge around this a lot to make a proper game.

 I never understood why someone didnt just fashion a bullet out of Kryptonite and shoot him in the heart years ago. I guess in Luthors future he finnaly did it, ( spearhead, not bullet) but still. Took long enough.

You're forgetting Superman's intro line back to his earliest days was "faster than a speeding bullet." Unless Kryptonite is more aerodynamic, that includes a kryptonite bullet.

Create a plot device that explains that Lois Lane was infected by a magical disease that saps her life force to the point where she's comatose and could potentially die from until Zatanna forges a magical ring that Supes has to wear that takes half his solar absorbing ability and converts it to lifeforce energy needed to keep Lois alive (instead of using it to keep himself fully charged). Thus his weaken state (limited ability of absorbing solar energy) and frequent absences (to find a cure).

Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

Me and a friend were thinking about this the other day.  We decided that rather than superman types being weak.  That a kryptonian race should be an epic, unlockable character - something like Jedi in old swg, or deathknights in WoW or a better version of the squids in CoH/V.

Something where after you get to a certain level/quest whatever you now get this super super race.  Man I would love that.

 

Venge Sunsoar

Yeah!

And then no one will play the game!  Just like SWG!

No one likes Alpha classes.  No one likes feeling inferior to another player, who might actually have less skill than them.  It's just terrible game design to purposefully create an unbalanced class atmosphere.

Originally posted by BeefMach1ne

WEll basically it's simple because there can only be on answer that fits the unvierse. Kryptonite ...

 

Maybe the sun is now orange instead of yellow. 

if they made superman invincible like he was in the comics he would be....invincible.  i don't think that would work in a MMORPG.  they had to nerf him.

I believe they will be explaining a lot of these things with the storyline, same way they'll be explaining the influx of superheros. 

Originally posted by Tazlor

if they made superman invincible like he was in the comics he would be....invincible.  i don't think that would work in a MMORPG.  they had to nerf him.

So let me get this straight. Superman has been around for 72 years. His powers have never been a problem in DC Universe comics for all these years. In fact clever writers have come up with scenarios where even non-powered heroes and villains have found a way to defeat Superman. But now you are telling us that because they are making a DC Universe online game they have to completely change a 72 year old character to fit their poorly designed piece of fluff? And you are OK with that!? F*ck that! If they can't be bothered to be faithful to the source material they are drawing their ideas from they don't deserve to use that source material. What a bunch of moronic hacks.

First of all, the "Modern-Era" Superman is by design much weaker than other incarnations of him.  He has only recently been able to take extended space trips again, and moving planets etc is out of the question.

That aside, the story for the game is that Brainiac was siphoning super-powers, including those of Superman, Captain Marvel, Black Adam, and other "REALLY powerful guys."  Luthor steals these and distributes them over the current world.  That means people "the players" may even be getting portions of Supermans own power.  They (after much training) will be on even footing with the iconic heroes.  The Devs have said as much.  You will be mentored by a hero of your choice, but that doesnt imply you are weaker.  Just less experienced.  As you defeat some of their lesser enemies, they will give you more trust, until eventually you help them defeat a major foe.  After that, they see you as an equal, and just check in with you from time to time.  You will be powerful enough to fight their major foes...and for Lex Luthors proteges, that includes Superman.  At least, thats sort of the gist of what the Devs have been saying.

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Originally posted by MisterZebub

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Originally posted by Tazlor
if they made superman invincible like he was in the comics he would be....invincible.  i don't think that would work in a MMORPG.  they had to nerf him.

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So let me get this straight. Superman has been around for 72 years. His powers have never been a problem in DC Universe comics for all these years. In fact clever writers have come up with scenarios where even non-powered heroes and villains have found a way to defeat Superman. But now you are telling us that because they are making a DC Universe online game they have to completely change a 72 year old character to fit their poorly designed piece of fluff? And you are OK with that!? F*ck that! If they can't be bothered to be faithful to the source material they are drawing their ideas from they don't deserve to use that source material. What a bunch of moronic hacks.

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Although I appreciate your passion to stick to the classic "well thought out" story - get real. Superman has every power in the book. He talks like a retard. ...and he's not even human. What a great "person" I can really relate to. It's about time they made him into something. Maybe they'll recognize him as the crappy McCrappy-pants he actually is.

One love.

OK, now you dedicated DC fans correct me if I am wrong here, but after the whole "Doomsday killing Superman" about a decade ago in the comic didnt  the man of steels powers get downsized in relation to what they had been in the DC universe???

Looking forward to the game either way, November is pretty close!

Originally posted by Pest138

OK, now you dedicated DC fans correct me if I am wrong here, but after the whole "Doomsday killing Superman" about a decade ago in the comic didnt  the man of steels powers get downsized in relation to what they had been in the DC universe???

Looking forward to the game either way, November is pretty close!

 Yes, you're talking about the modern-era, or "post-crisis" Superman.  After the efforts of several different versions of Earths Supermen/Boys thwarted the efforts of the Anti-Monitor (In "Crisis on Infinite Earths") and later Superboy-Prime (In Infinite Crisis)  to destroy the multiverse, and all the known realities were reduced to 52.  Well, you can read all about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powers_and_abilities_of_Superman

EDIT: I should note, though, that the Death of Superman story was actually post-crisis as well.  The Superman that lost to Doomsday was already the toned-down Superman.

Originally posted by MisterZebub

Originally posted by Tazlor

if they made superman invincible like he was in the comics he would be....invincible.  i don't think that would work in a MMORPG.  they had to nerf him.

So let me get this straight. Superman has been around for 72 years. His powers have never been a problem in DC Universe comics for all these years. In fact clever writers have come up with scenarios where even non-powered heroes and villains have found a way to defeat Superman. But now you are telling us that because they are making a DC Universe online game they have to completely change a 72 year old character to fit their poorly designed piece of fluff? And you are OK with that!? F*ck that! If they can't be bothered to be faithful to the source material they are drawing their ideas from they don't deserve to use that source material. What a bunch of moronic hacks.

Actually his "overpoweredness" had been a problem for decades for DC writers because it's hard to keep someone who is invincible and all powerful interesting for 72 years(they pretty much exhausted all the Kryptonite angles in the first few years).Superman has bene "nerfed" as you put it  many times in the comics because sales of those comic book were flagging.