Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by PoopyStuff

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Probably one of the worst articles I have attempted to read in quite a while.  A great writer this person is not.

They could have condensed that garbage into one paragraph and actually talked about what you learned instead of spending innumberable paragraphs attempting to show your command of the English language.

That is exactly how not to write a conclusion article.

The article was torture to read.

I'd have to agree

wasn't that informative at all

just platitudes

LOL, as if you two could do better. 

Article was fine as a conclusion to a human interest piece, we're not talking about a FOX News documentary here.

If you consider that piece of wordy nonsense "fine" you have a completely distorted sense of what good writing is all about.  I was going to quote several passages where he endlessly repeated himself except that there were more than several and I did not want to take up a lot of screen space for what is blatantly obvious.

I showed the piece to a friend who is an editor and he completely agreed with me,

Well I can relate to the author as far as the EVE learning curve goes, and the sheer frustration of trying to "get it".  My character must be about 4 years old now and I've rejoined and left the game more times than I can remember.  I've never got to the stage where I felt like I was finally progressing or having fun.  I'm certainly glad he did and it makes me want to try again.

Excellent story and I really did love all first 7 parts of it but sure the 8th part was a bit short and not as good as the first parts but still I agree with the conclusions that you put forth. In short I loved the piece and look forward to hear more from you later on. 

Please wright some more about what happens when you try for your ambitious goals :) 

I have been playing EVE for some years and have 50-70 mil SP atm but I really do not know it all in here and even suck at some parts of it. But I love the game as much as when I started way back and look forward to interplanetary industry, even fighting on the ground later on.

Good luck to you and if I meet you in game later on then good luck to you also even if I am mostly peaceful pilot.

Howatch Johalla

The OP did a great job making mission running and mining seem interesting.

To the people criticizing the OP, its a internet blog. Get over it.

Interesting read.  I always like to read new users experiences to a game I've been playing now over 7 years.  While there are definitely steep trials and tribulations early on, I miss that part of EVE.  Someone mentioned leaving the station for the first time and being bewildered.  That was what was exciting to me.

After years in the game,  the thing that draws me back is my old corp mates.  I've taken a few extended breaks from the game, and I don't invest the sheer number of hours I used to, but I still like to log in and see my ugly toon in the station.  The expansions have added enough to make me feel like a n00b again, but in the end it's window dressing.  There isn't much they have added that changes the game completely, and I guess it's a good thing.

If anyone takes anything out of this, EVE is an excellent sandbox game and offers years of exploration, but for most pilots, it's only worth it if these things are done as a team.  I do break off from corp life once in a while to explore my own niches, but I inevitably always end up back with corp to exploit the game with friends.

Cheers,

Fantus

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by PoopyStuff

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Probably one of the worst articles I have attempted to read in quite a while.  A great writer this person is not.

They could have condensed that garbage into one paragraph and actually talked about what you learned instead of spending innumberable paragraphs attempting to show your command of the English language.

That is exactly how not to write a conclusion article.

The article was torture to read.

I'd have to agree

wasn't that informative at all

just platitudes

LOL, as if you two could do better. 

Article was fine as a conclusion to a human interest piece, we're not talking about a FOX News documentary here.

If you consider that piece of wordy nonsense "fine" you have a completely distorted sense of what good writing is all about.  I was going to quote several passages where he endlessly repeated himself except that there were more than several and I did not want to take up a lot of screen space for what is blatantly obvious.

I showed the piece to a friend who is an editor and he completely agreed with me,

It was a She, you obviously did not read the article.

Your response here is not constructive and pretty pathetic. Well done I am sure you acheived something. What a chump.

Originally posted by arcana666

Well I can relate to the author as far as the EVE learning curve goes, and the sheer frustration of trying to "get it".  My character must be about 4 years old now and I've rejoined and left the game more times than I can remember.  I've never got to the stage where I felt like I was finally progressing or having fun.  I'm certainly glad he did and it makes me want to try again.

I definitely can relate. I've lost count of how many times I tried EVE and unsubbed, confident that I wouldn't touch the game again. Something finally connected the last time I tried their 5-day Return to EVE campaign. All I can guess is that it took me this long to figure out an objective in the game that I enjoyed, and understand the mechanics enough to see a path of progression and fun game play. The learning curve, and even time it takes just to see all the options for play style, is really unbelievably huge imo. It's both to CCP's benefit and hindrance that they've created such an intricate sandbox MMO that they both lose new subs and gain followers because of it. I think they're making good progress to improve that though.

I think their biggest improvement was adding the career agents to the game. As an extension of the main tutorial, it really helps teach new players about some of the career options available and gives you the basics to pursue that path. Once I tried the exploration path, I got really addicted to logging in every opportunity and seeing how far I could progress. I realized that progression is just as much about your personal skill in learning your direction in EVE and how to go about it, as it is about making money and passively raising the skill of your character. Most of these other MMOs (not saying all of them) are really not about skill anymore. You just login, invest time in improving your character through easy grinding/progression, and logoff feeling that you profited with minimal effort. EVE doesn't give anyone easy progression. You have to go to class and learn, decide upon a direction, and truly invest in it to profit with EVE as a fun game.

I hope all of you that wanted to like EVE before but couldn't get past the learning curve, give the trial another shot and focus on the career agent missions early on. They really give the most thorough introduction to EVE yet.

Also wanted to add that a great addition for me was the career certifications. It's like an achievements list depending on what you enjoy doing. This gives the game an optional, slightly more linear feel to progression if you prefer the linear play style. If I ever get bewildered with the skill options and career planning, I just fall back on these certifications to help direct me along a certain path and it simplifies things a lot, at least until I get more experience and know what else I can use in that area.

My first Eve Expierence was so different. I spent a month mining/doing missions, joining a corp, looking at stuff - after a month I threw caution to the wind, and found a 0.0 corp that was recruiting. I joined them, moved to 0.0, and I've never looked back.

2 years on and I now run a 0.0 corp with my buddy, in a big alliance, part of a bigger coalition. 

You can do whatever you put your mind to in eve, if you want to. You want 700 v 700 battles, on a daily basis, you just need to find the people who do that, and join them. 

It's an sheer will. If you expect the game to lead you down a pre-defined path, then try a normal MMO. I personally can't play wow, or lotr;online, or ANY traditional MMO, and I've tried alot, and just don't enjoy it. It lacks what I am now well used to - meaningful PvP.

Nice articles.

For me, EVE online is the best MMO available right now. Its unique, it offers infinite depts of content, learning and exploration. I played for almost 4 years now and i have connected with certain players in this game like never b4. I consider them my friends, even if i never met them in RL.

Its a mature and complicated game, a rare thing in todays MMOs and i love it !

It is true when they say that Eve is 90% waiting and 10% pure terror.  There is nothing quite like your fleet commander dropping you into a massive gate camp, your heart ponding the whole way down, and then lighting up your autocannons on top of the primary target.  Not to be getting down on these other games (Wow) but you just cant get the same experience. I've tried multiple game trials and never once did I have a problem dealing with shaky hands in the middle of pvp.  It kinda makes me sad because so many new players of eve just cant seem to handle it.  I feel that they are missing out some something really awesome.