Originally posted by Daywolf

Originally posted by Laviticus

Add me as EQ2 Please. Or where do I vote at so  I can vote?

Close enough :/ … I cut my browser down to make room for my word processor, only looking for the poster name and first word of the post mainly, not too far after that the words go off screen. After all, I’m spending the time counting as a human counts, I’m not a PHP script ;)

 

btw, what game is "Add"?

hehe :P

ADD = Attention Deficit Disorder Online best game ever, you can even play it while at school!

Originally posted by Isane

AC1

Fantastic no real end game but just joyous to play. Sadly End Game content and MMOs are a little bit of an oxymoron.

You should really be talking an Arena Game if it's about end game. MMOs are all about persistancy and longevity, nice thread but just so wrong in so many ways.

Hard to say better, man :) That's exactly point - ideal end-game for MMO is NO end-game at all.

Neverending story, endless adventures, wide worlds etc. That we really want. And sure in some place on our explorations we can found a legendary lair of dragon battle with whom takes time and tactics, but that's not end.

If I mentioned EQ1 til PoP (incl.) then that was just the case:

When legendary heros broke borders with lands of gods, when they went step-by-step to more and more bigger, stronger gods... and when they reach at last god of gods, big Quarm, god of times.... and kill him too. That would be place to put dot on I.

But then expand game to next patch where 1-2 lil porcupines kill with ease and speed whole 54-men raid of previous god-killers - that was just obsolete and stupid.

Same thing happened in LOTRO when instead of developing nice story (they already have done very nice) in one stop there was seemly some break-down in brains of some devs. And they started to develope "end-game", meanless radiance-grind rally and stupid instances and more stupidier skirmishes. That killed game not only for me but many ppl I know and respect.

DAoC pre-ToA

RVR was the only thing in any MMO that kept me engage for any length of time. Could never really care for PvE raiding, but RVR was just a prefect system to challenge you and  confront you with an almost endless number of situations.

Originally posted by Luczifer

 

Hard to say better, man :) That's exactly point - ideal end-game for MMO is NO end-game at all.

*yawn* I never said end-game. Most people understand what end-game-content is regarding mmog's. Make it too hard to understand, winds up going nowhere. Just be happy I'm taking the time to count the votes heh

Star Trek Online

FFXI. The most varied endgame and the most fun out of all MMO's I've played.

Voting concluded.

And we have a winner. Out of 85 legitimate votes, EVE wins by a nose *and the crowd roars*
Thanks all, for participating :D

EVE 18
DAoC 15 (1 pre-ToA)
EQ1 10 (3 Pre-PoP)
FFXI 8
UO 7 (1 pre-AoS, 1 pre-Renaissance)
SWG 7 (6 pre-CU, 1 pre-NGE, 0 votes for current version)
EQ2 6
AC1 4
WoW 3
Shadowbane 2
Aion 1
AoC 1
CoH 1
Guild Wars 1
STO 1

Gotta go with Pre-CU SWG

this sample taken really does not represent the actual sub numbers from each game therefore it must be something else than endgame that attracts players to a game. 

eve with ~300k subs wins with 18 compared to WoW with 11M subs with 3 votes...

i mean the survey was adequate, he took a sample population within a community that plays the genre. 

my opinion on this is that the endgame is not a deciding factor if a game is popular or not. it would look more towards actual gameplay and difficulty of the game over how much fun is the endgame

This pretty much shows how much people let their nostalgia blind them, lol. 

Originally posted by Hyanmen

This pretty much shows how much people let their nostalgia blind them, lol. 

yeah, when we were young then grass was greener and sky bluer and sun... khm ten times brighter :)

But about wow - again i remember that slogan about bullshit's taste - "Millions of flys can't be wrong... "

Originally posted by Squal'Zell

my opinion on this is that the endgame is not a deciding factor if a game is popular or not. it would look more towards actual gameplay and difficulty of the game over how much fun is the endgame

You mean which game grinds better. Sure, some people like that, but that is not what this is about. And it’s not a poll asking which part of the game is best (which is fine for you to start your own thread for a poll), just which game is best for end-game-content being that which is left after you finish grinding skills/levels. That’s my type of game, really, always has been. I really didn’t spend 5 years in UO just grinding skills heh (and years in others as well). And if the game only has raiding or only has PvP for end-game-content but it’s completely awesome and playable for years, well that works too.

I would say the results are resonably representative of the vocal minority of those on this site. Also did anyone ever doubt that eve wouldn't win a poll/award .

What game was being targeted with the critisism of nostalgia?