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5/14/10 5:01:06 PM#21
Originally posted by MadnessRealm
Nah ... there are lots of mini-maxers and achievers that cares nothing but dps efficiencies, gear score, and boss tactics. How many % of the wow players can actually tell you (or care) about the story of the frozen throne, or Thrall? |
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Originally posted by nariusseldon You don't have to care about the lore to pick a name that fits it. Go play a singleplayer game and you can name your character whatever you want, nobody will care since only you play the game. The moment you enter a multiplayer game there are other people to think about as well. Why go out of your way to ruin their fun? “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule.” |
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5/14/10 5:11:17 PM#23
Originally posted by Fyendiar
Hey, sounds to me like you've never heard of the possibility that some human beings may not play MMORPG's because they want to play it for the same reasons you want to. Some of us humor ourselves with silly names because it doesn't matter, it's so easy to simply remove yourself from the presence of a person with a name that is bothering you. If you let something as simple as me running around as a freaking Orc fighting gigantic magic casting dragons, but with my name tag being "Fishtaco" annoy you than by god it sounds pretty hard to please you. i just think of all the issues within the MMORPG community that this would be the least of most peoples' worries.
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Tardcore
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5/14/10 5:12:33 PM#24
Originally posted by Fyendiar Most probably do it for the exact response you just gave them, to tweak the tail of people they feel take themselves far to seriously.
I saw a guy wearing a t-shirt that read "I'm with Stupid" . . . he was alone. Dark Pony for Pope. |
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5/14/10 5:18:05 PM#25
Why? Because they can. That's pretty much the reason. Every MMO with RP servers (WoW included) has naming conventions. Just read WoW's EULA and ToSA. Their RP servers have rules for naming, for people who break immersion, and a bunch of other things. The problem is that none of it is enforced. Ever. It's lip service to Roleplayers to say they have it, and maybe enforce it for the first month before ignoring what they have in black and white for the rest of the game's existence. If names had to be approved by a person (crazy idea, I know) before people saunter into the RP server's gameworld, you'd probably see a nice drop of the most glaring names. Of course, someone would need to be paid to do scan a few thousand names a day. Either way, players do it because they can. Some do it because the name has lore of its own with the person, others because they're just uncreative, some because they could care less about Roleplaying and join the server because it's "an easy win" type deal, and still some join just to annoy the Roleplayers (think Jocks vs. Nerds). My advice? If you want immersion, stick to SRPGs. MMOs have never had any support (even half-assed support) for Roleplayers. The game that does and is able to provide a good game beyond enforcement and support, will probably be a monumental hit. Yes, I am an English Major. |
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Originally posted by AshGUTZ People don't have to play the game the same way I do, I just don't want them going out of their way to ruin my fun! You say it doesn't matter, I tell you otherwise. It does matter what name you pick. I am no lore fanatic, I don't mind normal names that don't really fit the lore completely. I do mind names that are absurd because it ruins my playstyle. Serieus names that fit the lore do not ruin your playstyle, does it? I am not hard to please, just don't pick a moronic name and act decent towards others. Ofcourse to you this is a small issue, you don't care about immersion! For those of us that do care about that find names just as important as class balance is important to pvpers. “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule.” |
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5/14/10 5:21:25 PM#27
When I play games I usually start with the name Jackmehauff and say that i am German and that its my real name. Then I get namechanged so I choose a name that fits with the rules without getting suspended. Now the fun starts I sit there all day, doing /who or /find depending on the game, and I report any name that does not fit within the rules. Each time i have done this, within a month, a more relaxed policy appears. Then its newtoon time. Names that come to mind: SurpriseBS Eatmycat FumbDuck SumChot mynameisverylongxxxxxxx etc.
You see, names are retarded. How good another player is is what counts. Whether the name fits with the lore or not, if the player cant move left when told to, or cant damage the script we're fighting, he's a worthless piece of shit. The name only makes it easier to spam the main city with "Name is a total noob, dont group with that asshat, he just wants to be carried". |
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5/14/10 5:23:11 PM#28
Originally posted by AshGUTZ That's a fair statement, which is precisely why I immediately label any person with such a stupid name as just that, stupid. And you know what? Rarely have I been wrong about that generalization.
I have to agree about the earlier statement that was posted about being glad people name themselves such idiotic names. Although as much as it annoys me, it's like a giant neon sign saying "Look at me, I want attention" and I know to avoid them. |
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5/14/10 5:23:20 PM#29
Originally posted by Comnitus
Hmm did you also have a Sorc named Comnitus? |
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5/14/10 5:25:33 PM#30
Originally posted by Fyendiar I agree. It hurts immersion for me, as well. I want MMORPGs to have set name lists for players to choose from. I would be willing to forego creating my own names to avoid all the childish nonsense. "" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2 |
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Comnitus
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5/14/10 5:31:55 PM#31
Originally posted by Fyendiar This is funny. It's almost like stupid names are offensive to you, along with clearly obscene names (someone earlier misquoted me and suggested "Analrapist" was okay because it's easy to pronounce? Give me a break). Thus, you almost wish there was a /report function for stupid names. They're ruining your fun by being so uncreative and lame. People keep bringing up lore because the only rational explanation for your stance is that your immersion - your involvement in the game's lore, essentially - is broken by such names. That's logical and understandable. That's why RP servers were created. Can you stop all the morons? Of course not. If you could, the Internet would be a much happier place. Even if an RP server doesn't enforce the naming policy as strictly as you'd like, it's better than a regular server. People have different definitions of "stupid" names. Yes, I agree that some people put no effort into creating names at all (xxxxxlegolasxxxxx, etc). Thankfully, names like jtoitjaowirej don't fly because 99.9% of the time, they're gold farmers or bots. Even if a "player" named jtoitjaowirej wasn't spamming gold-selling messages, I'd report "him" because "his" name is obviously suspicious. Some people may even make such names to piss people like you off. They're called trolls, but I don't think they're as common as you'd like to believe. Since no one is really answering your original question, I'll try (in order of probability): 1) They're trying to make a statement with their name. Now, in my first post, I said that names don't really reflect people, but I didn't think that assertion through. In an MMO, it's different. Unlike real life, MMO names can be created to convey a specific message - if you're aiming to be the top PvPer on your server, you'd rather be named "Annihilatobliteratorman" than "Charlietheunicorn." If you're a girl and you want to be cute, you may pick something like "Kitty... pink"... well, you know where I'm going with this. Like I said, though, it's better to judge people by interacting with them than immediately dismissing someone solely because of their name. The name is often a good first indicator, as others have mentioned ("he goes on /ignore right away!"), but looks can be deceiving. "Wanting attention" also falls under this category. 2) They think it's funny, probably only to them but possibly to their friends (or other people whose opinions they care about). Maybe it's an inside joke between buddies, maybe it's a name that they created while they were drunk and it just stuck throughout all their MMOs. 3) They really, really, really couldn't think of something... anything... else. 4) Personal reason, though with a "stupid" name, this is the least likely. In the end, you have to deal with these people anyways, irregardless of what they call themselves. That's why you're playing an MMO. I chuckle at these names sometimes, but only if they're more clever than xxxxxlegolasxxxxx (like a Tauren Death Knight in WoW named Expiredbeef. Come on, it's not some lore-accurate Tauren name, but it's still amusing). I don't really think you're wrong in what you want (I like to be immersed as well, which is why I enjoy LotRO even though I don't RP), but the way you're stating it appears selfish and whiny. "They ruin MY fun with THEIR stupidity... WHY? WHY can't they just GO AWAY!?" @Scorchien - Nope. Never really played Destro. I had a low level Marauder, Magus, and a Squig Herder, but I never got any of them past 20. Edit: And to cap off this wall of text, and to make sure you know that I'm not trying to attack you completely, I have kind of the same pet peeve when it comes to men playing as women characters. Yup, nothing more immersion-breaking than a hot girl having a deep dude's voice in real life. Sigh. But you know what? I know there's nothing I can do about that. So I don't let it bother me.
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Originally posted by MMO_Doubter FreeRealms did something like that to prevent names that are not kid friendly. It is not the perfect solution, but it may be the best one in the market today. I would love to see that feature in all mmo's that claim to be rpg's. I may not be able to create that one name I want, but at least all names would be lore friendly for that game. “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule.” |
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5/14/10 5:33:01 PM#33
Originally posted by Fyendiar I agree with you. I play very much akin to how you do. but as much as I do agree with you I can see Ashgutz point. however I wonder if he is willing to see his point in a more global way and not just from his perspective. Like this quote: Hey, sounds to me like you've never heard of the possibility that some human beings may not play MMORPG's because they want to play it for the same reasons you want to
Because I agree with him, not everyone does play the same way. But when painted in the same light that point goes both ways. Not everyone plays the same way that he does and views things differntly. The problem is that both sides are right. One of the reasons that I do look for role play servers because a good amount of time the players are at least sensitive to such things. |
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5/14/10 5:33:27 PM#34
In lotro, I named my hobbit, Moodo. All the other names I tried were picked. Well shave my back and call me an elf! -- Oghren |
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5/14/10 5:37:12 PM#35
Funny thing about nearly every MMO out there... they have feature slike turning overhead names on/off and an Ignore/Block list for chat. If other peoples names are really that offensive to you (which it shouldnt be, its their toon, not yours), simply turn the names off or block that person. After all, you claim you want "immersion", is seeing people running around with names floating over their head immersive? On top of that, theres usually RP servers which DO require you to follow the lor ewhen naming a toon, so if its really that important to you, stick to RP servers. Players on others servers, especially non-RP PvP servers dont care what yours or anyone elses names are, theyre not playing the game for immersion and lore, theyre playing for fun & pvp. Also, you complain about it ruining the immersion for you, but yet how is it immersive to force people to choose names from a preset list. Is that immersive and realistic to you? I dont recall there being any rule in either RL or in the lore/IP of games that ever said "You can only name your child this, and this, and this". If i wanted i could give my RL child a name like IPWNURMOM if i really wanted to. Might be ridiculous, but point is, im able to if i wish. Why should it be any different in an MMO? |
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5/14/10 5:42:54 PM#36
Originally posted by Fyendiar
I don't see why i need to go out of my way to read the lore and pick a name that fits. I *can* name my char whatever I want on a MMO too (assuming the name is not taken). Very few people care about names anyway. I have yet to met one in game complaining about naming. |
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5/14/10 5:45:59 PM#37
Originally posted by Fyendiar Well, that is too bad. You only choice is to quit MMORPGs. I don't see people going out of their way to change their names just because u don't like it. More likely they will tell u to take a hike if you complain. |
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Originally posted by kaiser3282 In PvE I always turn off the floating names, in PvP that is not a wise idea. But that only helps you so far. There is chat, emotes, targetting in PvP, etc where you still see those names. Even if you add every stupid name to your ignore list you would be adding people indefinately since players come and go all the time. I do keep to roleplaying servers if the mmo has them, but even those server have a lot of those names. There just is no way of getting around them, you can't escape it. “In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule.” |
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5/14/10 5:50:49 PM#39
Originally posted by nariusseldon Going out on a limb here and assuming you play WoW, which is where the stupid naming fits right in.
It's not about learning about lore and making a RP specific name, it's about not making stupid, childish cry -for-attention names IE any of the ones listed in this thread. That's all that those names are, hoping someone will pay attention to you and give you any kind of response whether it be positive or negative. Then again, I'm also a stickler for playing the same gender as you in real life. I want to connect with the character because that character is ME in that setting; you control the actions and progression. I can't get behind a character with a childishly immature name or if it's female. |
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5/14/10 5:52:32 PM#40
I remember back in asherons call, I was still very much like the OP and thought all names should follow lore/genre/etc., One day I was running along a path and this super fast dude goes whipping by me. I turned around to check his name and it was "Bagdragger". Now back then it was one of the funniest things I ever saw because most people DID have normal RPish names. Did it fit serious lore? no. But did it increase my enjotment of the game? yes. I still get a big kick out of some peoples names when playing mmo's. Just quirky and fun that lightens the mood. And despite being named something like Snakehumper, I have learned to appreciate the players that have a sense of humour over the anal retentive "Xandulorianthumus" who takes the game WAY too seriously and rage quits when he loses a raid roll.
But as for name policy and enforcement, I'm sure it has changed but Dark age of Camelot, probably one of my fave games of all time had a super strict name policy on their RP servers. Basically if it offended someone they changed your name. I had a fighting monk character named When Who on the RP server. I figured it sounded kinda oriental, but had the added benefit of being two english words. And most of all IT WASNT TAKEN!. So after many levels of enjoying, and actually RPing as a monk canvassing for donations for the poor (That I actually used to make started clothes and blankets for the new characters in the area ;)) , I was suddenly renamed to some bland and tastless Bernardus or some shit. Ruined the game for me and I quit. Now I enjoy names like Nutjob, Dirtnapper, or Rodhandler because they are light, silly and generally mean very little when it comes to the quality of player. Sadly its just hard to find decent people in general no matter WHAT their name is. In the end, do I still try to get cool names like Archon or Azriel first? yah, but when I go through my list of faves and all are taken, I want something to call my own that doesn't have too many vowels followed by too many consanants...Eaoiwynycx doesn't say immersion to me, it says 'I'm never typing your name in to give you a tell' |
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