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  IAmMMO

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Joined: 5/17/08
Posts: 1183

5/12/10 1:57:34 AM#61

A sad pathetic side to American culture, an attitude that is unfortunately being exported to the rest of the western world courtesy of the US, all for blatant money grab attempts on competition or from  situations like this. It's pathetic greedy disgusting behaviour.

  rznkain

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5/12/10 2:03:03 AM#62
Originally posted by jaloko
Originally posted by Czanrei

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin


lol.  See, this is what happens when people really dont get a 'real' life.

 

That post is coming from someone posting on a mmo site himself...? Get a clue is what is actually needed there.

Most people in SL who have steady businesses can make anywhere from 500-2k USD per month with a decent setup. And that isn't even some of the actually successful businesses who can make six figure incomes per year in SL. So you think they need to get a life? They probably have a better one than you Cik_Asalin.

 

wow dude no offence but you kinda sound like you have no life. just because they make money dosent mean they have a "Life" do you know what the meaning of "a life" is? its where you go out, have fun, make friends and so on. you can't do that over the internet..sorry sad but true. maybe some of them have lives but most of them really dont.

 

 

  always cracks ne up when see gamers especially talk about someone elses lack of rl on a message board obviously dude if your rl was that great your ass would be out enjoyin it rather than nerd trolling on forums.

  MMO_Doubter

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5/12/10 2:06:28 AM#63
Originally posted by Rider071

Interesting to see what becomes of this. Not because of SL, from this gamer's perspective that app is 'whacked', but speaking of the virtual economy perspective...

If they win or change anything, what will it do to the virtual 'gold' farming companies around the world? Would it change how games have to stop them? tax them? Would consumers have the right to sue the developers for allowing them into their virtual economy?

Here's Pandora's Box, Judge, open it if ya dare.

It's Linden Labs who opened it. I think their execs are going to become very unpopular in the industry.

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  Cergorach

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5/12/10 3:18:37 AM#64

I know that atleast one Dutch bank (ABNAMRO) had a virtual office in SL, I don't know if it is still active. But I do know that the investment in such a project could easily be multiple millions of euros, the largest investment being personel that works/worked on the project and advertisement. If the SL 'contract' was suddenly changed in a one sided action, that is going to be problematic and it wouldn't surprise me if RL businesses that invested in SL would sue over it. Linden Labs is actually functioning as bank, so it's not so much a game as it is a virtual world that sells virtual goods.

I would also like to point out that most of the money transactions these days credit card, paypal, etc. Are also virtual. Even the cash in your hand is as good as virtual, as the worth of it isn't backed by anything but a promise, no Gold backing at all.

  Milander

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Joined: 11/27/04
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5/12/10 7:14:43 AM#65

Well I can see their losses being 5 million in damages easy..Isnt Second Life the place where they recently (and by that I mean the past few years) Some sort of asteroid property for 250 million (insert virtual dollars here) that still worked out to what? 500 grand RL funds?

 Wish I could have gotten into SL when it was young, I could have made some cash :)

  GTwander

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5/12/10 7:15:35 AM#66
Originally posted by Milander

Well I can see their losses being 5 million in damages easy..Isnt Second Life the place where they recently (and by that I mean the past few years) Some sort of asteroid property for 250 million (insert virtual dollars here) that still worked out to what? 500 grand RL funds?

 Wish I could have gotten into SL when it was young, I could have made some cash :)

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  VGameOzz

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5/12/10 7:56:07 AM#67

Lol this reminds me of my days playing SWG Pre-CU and all the Lies SOE made to us subscribers.

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  Czanrei

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Joined: 7/24/05
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"Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to Suffering" -Master Yoda

5/12/10 9:18:46 AM#68
Originally posted by jaloko

Originally posted by Czanrei

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin


lol.  See, this is what happens when people really dont get a 'real' life.

 

That post is coming from someone posting on a mmo site himself...? Get a clue is what is actually needed there.

Most people in SL who have steady businesses can make anywhere from 500-2k USD per month with a decent setup. And that isn't even some of the actually successful businesses who can make six figure incomes per year in SL. So you think they need to get a life? They probably have a better one than you Cik_Asalin.

 

wow dude no offence but you kinda sound like you have no life. just because they make money dosent mean they have a "Life" do you know what the meaning of "a life" is? its where you go out, have fun, make friends and so on. you can't do that over the internet..sorry sad but true. maybe some of them have lives but most of them really dont.

 

You just don't get it do you? It is how they earn an income or some, a secondary income. Meaning they have a life outside of SL as do I, tyvm. I am happily married with a wife and three kids for your information. The sad thing is that gamers on this site are slandering other fellow gamers because of pure ignorance in not understand the implications of the situation. Don't post on here and flame people, claiming they have no life when that among other things is possibly the most childish thing a poster could say on a GAMING website.

  Starshaker

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Joined: 1/11/04
Posts: 25

5/12/10 9:58:21 AM#69
Originally posted by Czanrei
Originally posted by jaloko

Originally posted by Czanrei

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin


lol.  See, this is what happens when people really dont get a 'real' life.

 

That post is coming from someone posting on a mmo site himself...? Get a clue is what is actually needed there.

Most people in SL who have steady businesses can make anywhere from 500-2k USD per month with a decent setup. And that isn't even some of the actually successful businesses who can make six figure incomes per year in SL. So you think they need to get a life? They probably have a better one than you Cik_Asalin.

 

wow dude no offence but you kinda sound like you have no life. just because they make money dosent mean they have a "Life" do you know what the meaning of "a life" is? its where you go out, have fun, make friends and so on. you can't do that over the internet..sorry sad but true. maybe some of them have lives but most of them really dont.

 

You just don't get it do you? It is how they earn an income or some, a secondary income. Meaning they have a life outside of SL as do I, tyvm. I am happily married with a wife and three kids for your information. The sad thing is that gamers on this site are slandering other fellow gamers because of pure ignorance in not understand the implications of the situation. Don't post on here and flame people, claiming they have no life when that among other things is possibly the most childish thing a poster could say on a GAMING website.

 

I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet but...

One of the most rabid online gaming nations in the world, South Korea, had their highest court rule that things that people create online is their virtual property. It has monetary value and can be bought and sold as real property.

 

While you may blow this off as being some crazy other nation thing, give it some thoought. If something has value it can be taxed by government. Governments love new means of collecting revenue. The US government is no exception.

  Rain76

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Joined: 9/24/04
Posts: 5

5/12/10 7:24:15 PM#70

LMFAO!!! Second Life is fun for a virtual world, I have owned property but I like most ppl know for a fact that you can't really own virtual land in game not entirely...cause the virtual world could eventually disappear like any other game if it lost popularity & besides that they have the right to take it back at any point in time those EULA agreements apply in any game I've ever played & I've been on SL for 6 years off & on & those rules have never changed. I bet ya those ppl that sued Linden Labs end up getting their case thrown out of court & if it happens I'll LMAO!

  FarOutFish

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Joined: 2/24/09
Posts: 52

5/12/10 7:42:08 PM#71

This is more proff our tort system is out of control. Sueing over "virtual" land in a game is laughable, the Court should toss this suit and force plaintifs to pay all expences.

  Mordacai

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6/14/10 2:49:12 PM#72

I call for all Unicord Rapers and Flying Penis's to unite against this common enemy...

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  XH4ID3N

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Joined: 6/30/10
Posts: 14

10/12/10 4:30:25 AM#73
Originally posted by Tashani7

So there virtual land these people figure is worth 5 MILLION.....LOL wow I should move into Second Life and sell real estate there!

In lawsuits the "moral damage" can imply sums like that... Imagine a scenario where you tear your trousers in a Armani store - and than you sue Armani with 3 milion $ - cause of that, I mean what if sombody saw your panties ... the moral damage is overwhelming. :)

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