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MMORPG.com's Bill Murphy got his hands on the beta for the Age of Conan expansion, Rise of the Godslayer. Today, he brings us his very early impressions with a more detailed report to come later.
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5/03/10 1:33:37 PM#2
I think you did your best to show what this game has for offer or how it has changed but in all honestly i am not convinced this is a good game yet. The main core problems, like PvP, Siege, Raiding etc not addressed yet even in this expansion and it has been long time since the release, Slow developing games are just not worth a 2nd look IMO.
I made Tempest of Set and Bear Shaman level cap both of them in under 10 days when game was initially lunched and every review i hear from you guys is that they added new content this or that for leveling but the thing is. leveling is easy in this game it dose not need that. what it needs is new Raids that are acctully challenging, a Seige System that works like it was promised before release. a PvP system that works or atleast gives an illusion of some sort of balance. Crafting system vs Item reward gaind from Raids needs to be adressed. I remember i made Evasion set for my ToS and no one could hit me while no gear from Raiding coul ever match that.
I dont remember which one it was but if you double tab forward or back you get added evasion and with right items you end up with like 75+% evasion. Then there is the problem of walking under the walls and floors the Siege walls are used as barrier but there is glitch that lets you walk under them; same can be used in some raids. I mean i can go on forever but the thing is. it all comes down to this. The game has good and griping story and nice graphics but beauty is only skin deep as they say. it needs to find a soul and it lacks that for me. |
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choujiofkono
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Joined: 9/03/07
Extreme copy-paste development in FFXIV |
5/03/10 1:39:28 PM#3
As a recent resubber I love the direction the game has gone since launch. It's a much more fun experience from what it was 2 years ago. I am looking forward to the new content but I believe they should have filtered the lower level content into the game over time as people who bought the game originally and payed the subs were starved for content. It's kind of a low blow for them to take peoples money over time on an unfinished game and then make them pay again for the content to flesh out those same levels. It's sad I had to wait 2 years for the money I spent on the initial purchase to be worth the cost. I have more patience with them though than the average cartoony elephant MMO based on the sheer amount of detail in everything in the game (amazing). I hope the content in the expansion is massive and really fleshes out the game lore nicely. "I'm not cheap I'm incredibly subconsciously financially optimized" |
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5/03/10 2:29:38 PM#4
Originally posted by unknown Obviously a jaded MMO player who just wants to run through everything quickly just to toss it out, throw some insults and move on to the next thing. Seriously, who wnats to play through an MMO for the first time in 10 days? What a waste of time and money. http://www.yeoldeblog.net |
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5/03/10 2:42:09 PM#5
I wish they would do away with, or at least shorten the time in Tortage. Every time I try to get back into this game, I get bored of it in Tortage because it SUCKS so much there... :( They should speed up the 1-20 game there so it's not such a pain. |
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5/03/10 2:45:45 PM#6
Ozreth:There was no insult in my post so dont make things up that i didnt say. Also there are different ways of playing a game. yes for me it is all up rushing to end and doing end game content. if you think that is what makes a player "Jaded" as you say then you are wrong. one key point of any succesful design for game now days is the End-Game. i am sure MMORPG done few articles about it them self.
What i was trying to point out is that, AoC is not a grinding game. it takes very little effort to hit the level cap. so all this effort trying to improve the low level game is good but the main focuse needs to be else where. they need content where it matters the most and that is at End Game, Improving the system that dont work correctly those sort of things.
Look at it this way, how many days will you spend at low level range? And how many days will you spend at end game range? you cant stay low level for ever eventully you will move on and want more. I hate to compare it to WoW but that is one clear example of what i am talking about. they constantly add new content, new items new raids etc. that is the sort of thing AoC could use.
Otherwise the only way to enjoy AoC is to make loads of Alts and keep doing 1-30 range. which is ok fun 1st few times but then what? |
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TdogSkal
Novice Member
Joined: 5/11/06
Do not fear death, Death will come a knocking anytime it wants. |
5/03/10 2:45:57 PM#7
Originally posted by Gajari I hope your kidding. Tortage is the best part of Age of Conan. It is the only good part of the game. Well though out, voiced over, fun and involved quests. Once I left Tortage is when the game started to suck. Sooner or Later |
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5/03/10 2:50:46 PM#8
Originally posted by Gajari It only takes a few hours as it is. If you've run Tort that many times, you should have at least one character out of it by now. Besides after your first few quests you are able to leave tort. You just talk to the Tavern owner and he gives you the option to skip ahead as long as you are lvl 13 or something like that. Which takes no time at all to reach. I also disagree that tort sucks, that's my opinion though. Comparing it to other MMO starter areas, I'd say Tort has little competition. For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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5/03/10 2:50:50 PM#9
Lol. People complaining there's too little grind while leveling :-) To those, I'd recommend trying out Aion, that'll keep you busy, trying to hit L50. The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's |
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5/03/10 2:57:11 PM#10
Originally posted by unknown It depends on your playstyle really, keep in mind it's entirely possible AOC just isn't the game for you. I will probably never make a single alt, aside from my free 50 which I never play. I have fun doing guild related activities, running dungeons, PVPing etc.. Haven't felt the need to play another character yet. For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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5/03/10 3:04:58 PM#11
Originally posted by unknown I agree I feel the game has broken mmo core features that can never be fixed. It is missing that soul feeling. it has a great story, great graphics , and great lore, but that doesnt save the game. Its to much like an online hack and slash game. I personally cant stand alts. especially when I would be doing 95% of the same content that I had already done. Some of you will not agree with me, and I realize that some of you like AoC, and I repsect that. I am not saying my opinion of the game should be everyones opinion. Its just one gamers opinion. Waiting for:ArcheAge |
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5/03/10 3:18:10 PM#12
They have made it a PvE game?
Would love to hear about the PvP :) |
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5/03/10 3:47:40 PM#13
Originally posted by Gajari You can skip half of tortage now. |
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5/03/10 4:37:20 PM#14
I came back a couple Months ago and started re-leveling a few of My Toons...So far so good...But I always like this Game anyway...I'm a little disappointed to hear the expansion may lack in the Mid-Game considering My Main is CL 50 right now...Oh well...Nonetheless I've already purchased and I'm looking forward to rolling a toon through the lower level part of Khitai while I get My Main to the meat of it...I know AoC has had it's share of problems, and it's never going to be for everyone no matter what Funcom does...But I do think it's rounding out to be a solid MMO...And the new approach towards PvE can only help build back the Community...We'll see I guess... |
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5/03/10 4:46:27 PM#15
Really excited to try this. |
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5/03/10 5:28:33 PM#16
Originally posted by cyphers
Heaven forbid someone wants to actually spend some time playing the game they bought and pay monthly for. What is funny is people that beg for a game they purchase and pay monthly for to have less content and go by very quickly. |
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5/03/10 5:55:36 PM#17
I've just gone through a tour of five or 6 major MMOs, doing free intros and the first month's worth of content. Age of Conan was the most enjoyable for me. Games that came after it in the tour suffered greatly from comparison. I know it had a terrible release, but some MMO players unwillingness to re-consider games after further development is unfortunate. I like the way the devs have taken the game. Of course, ymmv. And I must say that the art department has gotten me killed gawking at the scenary more times in AoC than any other game I've played. I am certainly going to pony up for Godslayer. And good to see the commitment the game. If you are waiting for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one. |
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5/03/10 6:20:21 PM#18
Originally posted by Malickie As much as I wanted to love AoC I finally came to this conclusion. I'm one of those who also hated every minute I spent in Tortage and cursed the devs for only having one starting area. I was really hoping to see some improvements made to the midlevels, or maybe do something to encourage grouping while leveling. The addition of 9 more solo instances showed me the path FC wants us to take to the top so I won't be resubscribing. It really is a shame too because after playing around on the test server and running some of the lvl 80 dungeons I am really going to miss some aspects of the game and the expansion.
Keep fixing the core bugs and encourage grouping prior to lvl 75 and I will gladly give it another try. www.agonysend.org |
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5/03/10 6:36:13 PM#19
Originally posted by Murashu Yeah grouping while unguilded is a pain in AOC at mid range levels, as most players tend to be guilded (atleast on PVP servers). Which means they're geared already (usually). I will correct you in that open grouping actually seems to start at the 50's range at least now anyway. As it's the toughest tier by far before you reach 80. Most likely due to the free lvl 50 everyone receives. AT this level range the mini games are very active and world pvp is harsh as most want to reach pvp lvl 3-5 by 59. I've only reached 2 so far (70) as I spend a large amount of my time questing with others in my guild at this point. We PVP here and there but we also enjoy the questing in the game as a group. If you do get to do the group content (epic) it's challenging and highly rewarding I really do enjoy it, I'm stoked there's a lot more to come as of may 11th. As I've yet to finish the content present in game already, there will be tons of it by the time I reach 80, I play a lot of course so i may hit 80 a few days before may 11th. I will say AOC is defintely a game that requires guilding. Without it, you're missing a lot of the better aspects of the game. For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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5/03/10 6:48:51 PM#20
Originally posted by Ozreth I think you're crazy. The post you've sited as jaded had legitimate concerns and a nice overview of then with relevance to the post at hand. Can it fanboi, trolling good posts makes you look like an idiot. |
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