Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Here is my stance -

 

~Beef up borders

~Put pressure on other countries to control their population

~All states become stricter with obtaining a state ID's where a state ID/License can be used as citizenship/Legal alien ID

~Interrogate illegal aliens and go after employers and enablers

~Do not allow illegal aliens to attend public schools (proof of parental citizenship/Legal alien documentation) -- some say this will allow the kids to turn to crime and poverty however I believe that a lot of family's come to the US (legally and illegally) to get free education. Take the opportunity away and it will reduce illegal traffic.

~The states should have the right to require proof of citizenship on any citation or legal infraction for everyone.

 That would be a futile effort in Mexico, they can't even keep their officials alive, who would be able to enforce it? Unless the US sends in military force, it isn't going to happen.

How about we just take over Mexico and make it the the 51st state?  :D Canada, you're next!!

 LOL, you would not want to open the border with Mexico ANY TIME in the foreseeable future. At the moment it is hell on earth.

BURRITOS EVERYWHERE

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Mexicans like they're fucking savages?

 I didn't see anyone say " Mexicans are savages". You are making unwarranted assumptions. If you read my previous discussion on the subject you would obviously be able to tell that I was reffering to their current situation. With the current conditions in Mexico, it makes it HELL on earth.  NO where in any of my statements did I say, " Mexicans are a bunch of savages". quit being ridiculous. If you actually look at my post on the " Obama hates white men" thread, you would see I am quite compassionate for those that are just trying to feed their families, so assuming that I think they are a bunch of savages is absurd.

 The reason we could not even contemplate opening our borders is that currently even their own military cannot control the Cartle violence and drug trafficking, how could our police officers? Do you think that exposing more US citizens to that violence will help the situation at all? As is, Americans are at High risk even trying to go into the region, at risk for kidnapping or being murdered.

Kidnapping in Mexico

Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes

It wouldn't be police officers but actual military forces. Clearly Mexico is a place that people want to escape from, and it just so happens that they escape to here. By closing our borders strictly, we are condemning those would-be illegal immigrants to death and suffering. Therefore, by us invading Mexico, pursuing our infamous "nation-building" policy and setting up our superior administration, we will be doing the Mexicans, as well as ourselves, a favor. Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country. Besides the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""modernist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and hippie values that people have that makes them think war is strictly and only bad in all circumstances, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the best interests of all to go all-in to fixing the Mexico problem. Call the invasion our "final solution" if you will.

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. That's all I can say. Your POV is so intellectually and morally bankrupt that a piece-by-piece dissection would be completely pointless. And that fact that you so glibly use the term "final solution" just shows what an ignorant asshole you truly are.

How come? You're just saying words with no support.

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Here is my stance -

 

~Beef up borders

~Put pressure on other countries to control their population

~All states become stricter with obtaining a state ID's where a state ID/License can be used as citizenship/Legal alien ID

~Interrogate illegal aliens and go after employers and enablers

~Do not allow illegal aliens to attend public schools (proof of parental citizenship/Legal alien documentation) -- some say this will allow the kids to turn to crime and poverty however I believe that a lot of family's come to the US (legally and illegally) to get free education. Take the opportunity away and it will reduce illegal traffic.

~The states should have the right to require proof of citizenship on any citation or legal infraction for everyone.

 That would be a futile effort in Mexico, they can't even keep their officials alive, who would be able to enforce it? Unless the US sends in military force, it isn't going to happen.

How about we just take over Mexico and make it the the 51st state?  :D Canada, you're next!!

 LOL, you would not want to open the border with Mexico ANY TIME in the foreseeable future. At the moment it is hell on earth.

BURRITOS EVERYWHERE

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Mexicans like they're fucking savages?

 I didn't see anyone say " Mexicans are savages". You are making unwarranted assumptions. If you read my previous discussion on the subject you would obviously be able to tell that I was reffering to their current situation. With the current conditions in Mexico, it makes it HELL on earth.  NO where in any of my statements did I say, " Mexicans are a bunch of savages". quit being ridiculous. If you actually look at my post on the " Obama hates white men" thread, you would see I am quite compassionate for those that are just trying to feed their families, so assuming that I think they are a bunch of savages is absurd.

 The reason we could not even contemplate opening our borders is that currently even their own military cannot control the Cartle violence and drug trafficking, how could our police officers? Do you think that exposing more US citizens to that violence will help the situation at all? As is, Americans are at High risk even trying to go into the region, at risk for kidnapping or being murdered.

Kidnapping in Mexico

Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes

It wouldn't be police officers but actual military forces. Clearly Mexico is a place that people want to escape from, and it just so happens that they escape to here. By closing our borders strictly, we are condemning those would-be illegal immigrants to death and suffering. Therefore, by us invading Mexico, pursuing our infamous "nation-building" policy and setting up our superior administration, we will be doing the Mexicans, as well as ourselves, a favor. Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country. Besides the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""modernist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and hippie values that people have that makes them think war is strictly and only bad in all circumstances, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the best interests of all to go all-in to fixing the Mexico problem. Call the invasion our "final solution" if you will.

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. That's all I can say. Your POV is so intellectually and morally bankrupt that a piece-by-piece dissection would be completely pointless. And that fact that you so glibly use the term "final solution" just shows what an ignorant asshole you truly are.

How come? You're just saying words with no support.

Because you're pig-ignorant slime and not worth the time.

"Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country."

One of the reasons you want to go to war with Mexico is so you have a nice place to go on vacation.

Honestly, I'm really thinking that the zchwhateverthefuckhisnameis is just a troll. There's no way any serious person can hold his absolutely insane views on religion, morality and foreign policy. Well played.

Questions to ask yourself. What other country allows someone from a different nation to walk around, work or  get medical attention without a migrant card or passport? If you cannot think of another country that does such. Then there lies the answer. Its really plain and simple!

Regardless of what you liberals say on the subject. The above still stands. You can argue all you want on this. The law is just and fair. The only reason the left is even concerned over this is due to next November. They can claim whatever excuse they want. As we all know, its only for votes or future votes.

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Here is my stance -

 

~Beef up borders

~Put pressure on other countries to control their population

~All states become stricter with obtaining a state ID's where a state ID/License can be used as citizenship/Legal alien ID

~Interrogate illegal aliens and go after employers and enablers

~Do not allow illegal aliens to attend public schools (proof of parental citizenship/Legal alien documentation) -- some say this will allow the kids to turn to crime and poverty however I believe that a lot of family's come to the US (legally and illegally) to get free education. Take the opportunity away and it will reduce illegal traffic.

~The states should have the right to require proof of citizenship on any citation or legal infraction for everyone.

 That would be a futile effort in Mexico, they can't even keep their officials alive, who would be able to enforce it? Unless the US sends in military force, it isn't going to happen.

How about we just take over Mexico and make it the the 51st state?  :D Canada, you're next!!

 LOL, you would not want to open the border with Mexico ANY TIME in the foreseeable future. At the moment it is hell on earth.

BURRITOS EVERYWHERE

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Mexicans like they're fucking savages?

 I didn't see anyone say " Mexicans are savages". You are making unwarranted assumptions. If you read my previous discussion on the subject you would obviously be able to tell that I was reffering to their current situation. With the current conditions in Mexico, it makes it HELL on earth.  NO where in any of my statements did I say, " Mexicans are a bunch of savages". quit being ridiculous. If you actually look at my post on the " Obama hates white men" thread, you would see I am quite compassionate for those that are just trying to feed their families, so assuming that I think they are a bunch of savages is absurd.

 The reason we could not even contemplate opening our borders is that currently even their own military cannot control the Cartle violence and drug trafficking, how could our police officers? Do you think that exposing more US citizens to that violence will help the situation at all? As is, Americans are at High risk even trying to go into the region, at risk for kidnapping or being murdered.

Kidnapping in Mexico

Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes

It wouldn't be police officers but actual military forces. Clearly Mexico is a place that people want to escape from, and it just so happens that they escape to here. By closing our borders strictly, we are condemning those would-be illegal immigrants to death and suffering. Therefore, by us invading Mexico, pursuing our infamous "nation-building" policy and setting up our superior administration, we will be doing the Mexicans, as well as ourselves, a favor. Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country. Besides the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""modernist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and hippie values that people have that makes them think war is strictly and only bad in all circumstances, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the best interests of all to go all-in to fixing the Mexico problem. Call the invasion our "final solution" if you will.

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. That's all I can say. Your POV is so intellectually and morally bankrupt that a piece-by-piece dissection would be completely pointless. And that fact that you so glibly use the term "final solution" just shows what an ignorant asshole you truly are.

How come? You're just saying words with no support.

Because you're pig-ignorant slime and not worth the time.

"Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country."

One of the reasons you want to go to war with Mexico is so you have a nice place to go on vacation.

 LOL my idea of a nice relaxing vacation is not wearing a bullet proof vest and having to hide in an armored  vehichle hoping I do not get killed. Ummm.. NO thanks.

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Here is my stance -

 

~Beef up borders

~Put pressure on other countries to control their population

~All states become stricter with obtaining a state ID's where a state ID/License can be used as citizenship/Legal alien ID

~Interrogate illegal aliens and go after employers and enablers

~Do not allow illegal aliens to attend public schools (proof of parental citizenship/Legal alien documentation) -- some say this will allow the kids to turn to crime and poverty however I believe that a lot of family's come to the US (legally and illegally) to get free education. Take the opportunity away and it will reduce illegal traffic.

~The states should have the right to require proof of citizenship on any citation or legal infraction for everyone.

 That would be a futile effort in Mexico, they can't even keep their officials alive, who would be able to enforce it? Unless the US sends in military force, it isn't going to happen.

How about we just take over Mexico and make it the the 51st state?  :D Canada, you're next!!

 LOL, you would not want to open the border with Mexico ANY TIME in the foreseeable future. At the moment it is hell on earth.

BURRITOS EVERYWHERE

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Mexicans like they're fucking savages?

 I didn't see anyone say " Mexicans are savages". You are making unwarranted assumptions. If you read my previous discussion on the subject you would obviously be able to tell that I was reffering to their current situation. With the current conditions in Mexico, it makes it HELL on earth.  NO where in any of my statements did I say, " Mexicans are a bunch of savages". quit being ridiculous. If you actually look at my post on the " Obama hates white men" thread, you would see I am quite compassionate for those that are just trying to feed their families, so assuming that I think they are a bunch of savages is absurd.

 The reason we could not even contemplate opening our borders is that currently even their own military cannot control the Cartle violence and drug trafficking, how could our police officers? Do you think that exposing more US citizens to that violence will help the situation at all? As is, Americans are at High risk even trying to go into the region, at risk for kidnapping or being murdered.

Kidnapping in Mexico

Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes

It wouldn't be police officers but actual military forces. Clearly Mexico is a place that people want to escape from, and it just so happens that they escape to here. By closing our borders strictly, we are condemning those would-be illegal immigrants to death and suffering. Therefore, by us invading Mexico, pursuing our infamous "nation-building" policy and setting up our superior administration, we will be doing the Mexicans, as well as ourselves, a favor. Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country. Besides the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""modernist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and hippie values that people have that makes them think war is strictly and only bad in all circumstances, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the best interests of all to go all-in to fixing the Mexico problem. Call the invasion our "final solution" if you will.

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. That's all I can say. Your POV is so intellectually and morally bankrupt that a piece-by-piece dissection would be completely pointless. And that fact that you so glibly use the term "final solution" just shows what an ignorant asshole you truly are.

How come? You're just saying words with no support.

Because you're pig-ignorant slime and not worth the time.

"Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country."

One of the reasons you want to go to war with Mexico is so you have a nice place to go on vacation.

That's a perk... and a bit of a joke too. Are you stooping that low to find criticisms now? You used to be better.

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Honestly, I'm really thinking that the zchwhateverthefuckhisnameis is just a troll. There's no way any serious person can hold his absolutely insane views on religion, morality and foreign policy. Well played.

I'm not a troll. I think it's quite bigoted that you instantly accuse a person whose view differs from yours as being a troll.

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Here is my stance -

 

~Beef up borders

~Put pressure on other countries to control their population

~All states become stricter with obtaining a state ID's where a state ID/License can be used as citizenship/Legal alien ID

~Interrogate illegal aliens and go after employers and enablers

~Do not allow illegal aliens to attend public schools (proof of parental citizenship/Legal alien documentation) -- some say this will allow the kids to turn to crime and poverty however I believe that a lot of family's come to the US (legally and illegally) to get free education. Take the opportunity away and it will reduce illegal traffic.

~The states should have the right to require proof of citizenship on any citation or legal infraction for everyone.

 That would be a futile effort in Mexico, they can't even keep their officials alive, who would be able to enforce it? Unless the US sends in military force, it isn't going to happen.

How about we just take over Mexico and make it the the 51st state?  :D Canada, you're next!!

 LOL, you would not want to open the border with Mexico ANY TIME in the foreseeable future. At the moment it is hell on earth.

BURRITOS EVERYWHERE

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Mexicans like they're fucking savages?

 I didn't see anyone say " Mexicans are savages". You are making unwarranted assumptions. If you read my previous discussion on the subject you would obviously be able to tell that I was reffering to their current situation. With the current conditions in Mexico, it makes it HELL on earth.  NO where in any of my statements did I say, " Mexicans are a bunch of savages". quit being ridiculous. If you actually look at my post on the " Obama hates white men" thread, you would see I am quite compassionate for those that are just trying to feed their families, so assuming that I think they are a bunch of savages is absurd.

 The reason we could not even contemplate opening our borders is that currently even their own military cannot control the Cartle violence and drug trafficking, how could our police officers? Do you think that exposing more US citizens to that violence will help the situation at all? As is, Americans are at High risk even trying to go into the region, at risk for kidnapping or being murdered.

Kidnapping in Mexico

Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes

It wouldn't be police officers but actual military forces. Clearly Mexico is a place that people want to escape from, and it just so happens that they escape to here. By closing our borders strictly, we are condemning those would-be illegal immigrants to death and suffering. Therefore, by us invading Mexico, pursuing our infamous "nation-building" policy and setting up our superior administration, we will be doing the Mexicans, as well as ourselves, a favor. Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country. Besides the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""modernist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and hippie values that people have that makes them think war is strictly and only bad in all circumstances, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the best interests of all to go all-in to fixing the Mexico problem. Call the invasion our "final solution" if you will.

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. That's all I can say. Your POV is so intellectually and morally bankrupt that a piece-by-piece dissection would be completely pointless. And that fact that you so glibly use the term "final solution" just shows what an ignorant asshole you truly are.

How come? You're just saying words with no support.

Because you're pig-ignorant slime and not worth the time.

"Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country."

One of the reasons you want to go to war with Mexico is so you have a nice place to go on vacation.

 LOL my idea of a nice relaxing vacation is not wearing a bullet proof vest and having to hide in an armored  vehichle hoping I do not get killed. Ummm.. NO thanks.

You wouldn't, as we would rule over Mexico. Our superior administration and governance would destroy the problems that are turning Mexico into a horrible place and we would Americanize it. It might take time sure, but eventually things would turn out for the better. It would just be like any other vacation.

Then we could give it responsible government and make it our own little "crown colony' type of thing.

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Here is my stance -

 

~Beef up borders

~Put pressure on other countries to control their population

~All states become stricter with obtaining a state ID's where a state ID/License can be used as citizenship/Legal alien ID

~Interrogate illegal aliens and go after employers and enablers

~Do not allow illegal aliens to attend public schools (proof of parental citizenship/Legal alien documentation) -- some say this will allow the kids to turn to crime and poverty however I believe that a lot of family's come to the US (legally and illegally) to get free education. Take the opportunity away and it will reduce illegal traffic.

~The states should have the right to require proof of citizenship on any citation or legal infraction for everyone.

 That would be a futile effort in Mexico, they can't even keep their officials alive, who would be able to enforce it? Unless the US sends in military force, it isn't going to happen.

How about we just take over Mexico and make it the the 51st state?  :D Canada, you're next!!

 LOL, you would not want to open the border with Mexico ANY TIME in the foreseeable future. At the moment it is hell on earth.

BURRITOS EVERYWHERE

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Mexicans like they're fucking savages?

 I didn't see anyone say " Mexicans are savages". You are making unwarranted assumptions. If you read my previous discussion on the subject you would obviously be able to tell that I was reffering to their current situation. With the current conditions in Mexico, it makes it HELL on earth.  NO where in any of my statements did I say, " Mexicans are a bunch of savages". quit being ridiculous. If you actually look at my post on the " Obama hates white men" thread, you would see I am quite compassionate for those that are just trying to feed their families, so assuming that I think they are a bunch of savages is absurd.

 The reason we could not even contemplate opening our borders is that currently even their own military cannot control the Cartle violence and drug trafficking, how could our police officers? Do you think that exposing more US citizens to that violence will help the situation at all? As is, Americans are at High risk even trying to go into the region, at risk for kidnapping or being murdered.

Kidnapping in Mexico

Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes

It wouldn't be police officers but actual military forces. Clearly Mexico is a place that people want to escape from, and it just so happens that they escape to here. By closing our borders strictly, we are condemning those would-be illegal immigrants to death and suffering. Therefore, by us invading Mexico, pursuing our infamous "nation-building" policy and setting up our superior administration, we will be doing the Mexicans, as well as ourselves, a favor. Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country. Besides the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""modernist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and hippie values that people have that makes them think war is strictly and only bad in all circumstances, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the best interests of all to go all-in to fixing the Mexico problem. Call the invasion our "final solution" if you will.

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. That's all I can say. Your POV is so intellectually and morally bankrupt that a piece-by-piece dissection would be completely pointless. And that fact that you so glibly use the term "final solution" just shows what an ignorant asshole you truly are.

How come? You're just saying words with no support.

Because you're pig-ignorant slime and not worth the time.

"Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country."

One of the reasons you want to go to war with Mexico is so you have a nice place to go on vacation.

 LOL my idea of a nice relaxing vacation is not wearing a bullet proof vest and having to hide in an armored  vehichle hoping I do not get killed. Ummm.. NO thanks.

You wouldn't, as we would rule over Mexico. Our superior administration and governance would destroy the problems that are turning Mexico into a horrible place and we would Americanize it. It might take time sure, but eventually things would turn out for the better. It would just be like any other vacation.

Then we could give it responsible government and make it our own little "crown colony' type of thing.

 HAHAHAHHAH!! Okay so our government and local authorities cannot control the gang and cartel violence that already exist here, but they are suddenly going to be able to control it there? We have areas here in Dallas where the police do not show up until the shooting stops, and it is daylight . not to make arrests, but to collect bodies...

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Here is my stance -

 

~Beef up borders

~Put pressure on other countries to control their population

~All states become stricter with obtaining a state ID's where a state ID/License can be used as citizenship/Legal alien ID

~Interrogate illegal aliens and go after employers and enablers

~Do not allow illegal aliens to attend public schools (proof of parental citizenship/Legal alien documentation) -- some say this will allow the kids to turn to crime and poverty however I believe that a lot of family's come to the US (legally and illegally) to get free education. Take the opportunity away and it will reduce illegal traffic.

~The states should have the right to require proof of citizenship on any citation or legal infraction for everyone.

 That would be a futile effort in Mexico, they can't even keep their officials alive, who would be able to enforce it? Unless the US sends in military force, it isn't going to happen.

How about we just take over Mexico and make it the the 51st state?  :D Canada, you're next!!

 LOL, you would not want to open the border with Mexico ANY TIME in the foreseeable future. At the moment it is hell on earth.

BURRITOS EVERYWHERE

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Mexicans like they're fucking savages?

 I didn't see anyone say " Mexicans are savages". You are making unwarranted assumptions. If you read my previous discussion on the subject you would obviously be able to tell that I was reffering to their current situation. With the current conditions in Mexico, it makes it HELL on earth.  NO where in any of my statements did I say, " Mexicans are a bunch of savages". quit being ridiculous. If you actually look at my post on the " Obama hates white men" thread, you would see I am quite compassionate for those that are just trying to feed their families, so assuming that I think they are a bunch of savages is absurd.

 The reason we could not even contemplate opening our borders is that currently even their own military cannot control the Cartle violence and drug trafficking, how could our police officers? Do you think that exposing more US citizens to that violence will help the situation at all? As is, Americans are at High risk even trying to go into the region, at risk for kidnapping or being murdered.

Kidnapping in Mexico

Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes

It wouldn't be police officers but actual military forces. Clearly Mexico is a place that people want to escape from, and it just so happens that they escape to here. By closing our borders strictly, we are condemning those would-be illegal immigrants to death and suffering. Therefore, by us invading Mexico, pursuing our infamous "nation-building" policy and setting up our superior administration, we will be doing the Mexicans, as well as ourselves, a favor. Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country. Besides the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""modernist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and hippie values that people have that makes them think war is strictly and only bad in all circumstances, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the best interests of all to go all-in to fixing the Mexico problem. Call the invasion our "final solution" if you will.

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. That's all I can say. Your POV is so intellectually and morally bankrupt that a piece-by-piece dissection would be completely pointless. And that fact that you so glibly use the term "final solution" just shows what an ignorant asshole you truly are.

How come? You're just saying words with no support.

Because you're pig-ignorant slime and not worth the time.

"Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country."

One of the reasons you want to go to war with Mexico is so you have a nice place to go on vacation.

 LOL my idea of a nice relaxing vacation is not wearing a bullet proof vest and having to hide in an armored  vehichle hoping I do not get killed. Ummm.. NO thanks.

You wouldn't, as we would rule over Mexico. Our superior administration and governance would destroy the problems that are turning Mexico into a horrible place and we would Americanize it. It might take time sure, but eventually things would turn out for the better. It would just be like any other vacation.

Then we could give it responsible government and make it our own little "crown colony' type of thing.

 HAHAHAHHAH!! Okay so our government and local authorities cannot control the gang and cartel violence that already exist here, but they are suddenly going to be able to control it there? We have areas here in Dallas where the police do not show up until the shooting stops, and it is daylight . not to make arrests, but to collect bodies...

I didn't know that there was civil unrest in Dallas. If things are really as you are saying, then perhaps the city requires martial law and military protection.

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Here is my stance -

 

~Beef up borders

~Put pressure on other countries to control their population

~All states become stricter with obtaining a state ID's where a state ID/License can be used as citizenship/Legal alien ID

~Interrogate illegal aliens and go after employers and enablers

~Do not allow illegal aliens to attend public schools (proof of parental citizenship/Legal alien documentation) -- some say this will allow the kids to turn to crime and poverty however I believe that a lot of family's come to the US (legally and illegally) to get free education. Take the opportunity away and it will reduce illegal traffic.

~The states should have the right to require proof of citizenship on any citation or legal infraction for everyone.

 That would be a futile effort in Mexico, they can't even keep their officials alive, who would be able to enforce it? Unless the US sends in military force, it isn't going to happen.

How about we just take over Mexico and make it the the 51st state?  :D Canada, you're next!!

 LOL, you would not want to open the border with Mexico ANY TIME in the foreseeable future. At the moment it is hell on earth.

BURRITOS EVERYWHERE

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Mexicans like they're fucking savages?

 I didn't see anyone say " Mexicans are savages". You are making unwarranted assumptions. If you read my previous discussion on the subject you would obviously be able to tell that I was reffering to their current situation. With the current conditions in Mexico, it makes it HELL on earth.  NO where in any of my statements did I say, " Mexicans are a bunch of savages". quit being ridiculous. If you actually look at my post on the " Obama hates white men" thread, you would see I am quite compassionate for those that are just trying to feed their families, so assuming that I think they are a bunch of savages is absurd.

 The reason we could not even contemplate opening our borders is that currently even their own military cannot control the Cartle violence and drug trafficking, how could our police officers? Do you think that exposing more US citizens to that violence will help the situation at all? As is, Americans are at High risk even trying to go into the region, at risk for kidnapping or being murdered.

Kidnapping in Mexico

Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes

It wouldn't be police officers but actual military forces. Clearly Mexico is a place that people want to escape from, and it just so happens that they escape to here. By closing our borders strictly, we are condemning those would-be illegal immigrants to death and suffering. Therefore, by us invading Mexico, pursuing our infamous "nation-building" policy and setting up our superior administration, we will be doing the Mexicans, as well as ourselves, a favor. Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country. Besides the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""modernist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and hippie values that people have that makes them think war is strictly and only bad in all circumstances, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the best interests of all to go all-in to fixing the Mexico problem. Call the invasion our "final solution" if you will.

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. That's all I can say. Your POV is so intellectually and morally bankrupt that a piece-by-piece dissection would be completely pointless. And that fact that you so glibly use the term "final solution" just shows what an ignorant asshole you truly are.

How come? You're just saying words with no support.

Because you're pig-ignorant slime and not worth the time.

"Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country."

One of the reasons you want to go to war with Mexico is so you have a nice place to go on vacation.

 LOL my idea of a nice relaxing vacation is not wearing a bullet proof vest and having to hide in an armored  vehichle hoping I do not get killed. Ummm.. NO thanks.

You wouldn't, as we would rule over Mexico. Our superior administration and governance would destroy the problems that are turning Mexico into a horrible place and we would Americanize it. It might take time sure, but eventually things would turn out for the better. It would just be like any other vacation.

Then we could give it responsible government and make it our own little "crown colony' type of thing.

 HAHAHAHHAH!! Okay so our government and local authorities cannot control the gang and cartel violence that already exist here, but they are suddenly going to be able to control it there? We have areas here in Dallas where the police do not show up until the shooting stops, and it is daylight . not to make arrests, but to collect bodies...

I didn't know that there was civil unrest in Dallas. If things are really as you are saying, then perhaps the city requires martial law and military protection.

 The gang violence has been going on for years, and not just in Dallas, look at Detroit, Hell California is a mess.. Maybe you should study up on gangs a bit.. LOL

Gang cities

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Here is my stance -

 

~Beef up borders

~Put pressure on other countries to control their population

~All states become stricter with obtaining a state ID's where a state ID/License can be used as citizenship/Legal alien ID

~Interrogate illegal aliens and go after employers and enablers

~Do not allow illegal aliens to attend public schools (proof of parental citizenship/Legal alien documentation) -- some say this will allow the kids to turn to crime and poverty however I believe that a lot of family's come to the US (legally and illegally) to get free education. Take the opportunity away and it will reduce illegal traffic.

~The states should have the right to require proof of citizenship on any citation or legal infraction for everyone.

 That would be a futile effort in Mexico, they can't even keep their officials alive, who would be able to enforce it? Unless the US sends in military force, it isn't going to happen.

How about we just take over Mexico and make it the the 51st state?  :D Canada, you're next!!

 LOL, you would not want to open the border with Mexico ANY TIME in the foreseeable future. At the moment it is hell on earth.

BURRITOS EVERYWHERE

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Mexicans like they're fucking savages?

 I didn't see anyone say " Mexicans are savages". You are making unwarranted assumptions. If you read my previous discussion on the subject you would obviously be able to tell that I was reffering to their current situation. With the current conditions in Mexico, it makes it HELL on earth.  NO where in any of my statements did I say, " Mexicans are a bunch of savages". quit being ridiculous. If you actually look at my post on the " Obama hates white men" thread, you would see I am quite compassionate for those that are just trying to feed their families, so assuming that I think they are a bunch of savages is absurd.

 The reason we could not even contemplate opening our borders is that currently even their own military cannot control the Cartle violence and drug trafficking, how could our police officers? Do you think that exposing more US citizens to that violence will help the situation at all? As is, Americans are at High risk even trying to go into the region, at risk for kidnapping or being murdered.

Kidnapping in Mexico

Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes

It wouldn't be police officers but actual military forces. Clearly Mexico is a place that people want to escape from, and it just so happens that they escape to here. By closing our borders strictly, we are condemning those would-be illegal immigrants to death and suffering. Therefore, by us invading Mexico, pursuing our infamous "nation-building" policy and setting up our superior administration, we will be doing the Mexicans, as well as ourselves, a favor. Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country. Besides the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""modernist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and hippie values that people have that makes them think war is strictly and only bad in all circumstances, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the best interests of all to go all-in to fixing the Mexico problem. Call the invasion our "final solution" if you will.

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. That's all I can say. Your POV is so intellectually and morally bankrupt that a piece-by-piece dissection would be completely pointless. And that fact that you so glibly use the term "final solution" just shows what an ignorant asshole you truly are.

How come? You're just saying words with no support.

Because you're pig-ignorant slime and not worth the time.

"Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country."

One of the reasons you want to go to war with Mexico is so you have a nice place to go on vacation.

 LOL my idea of a nice relaxing vacation is not wearing a bullet proof vest and having to hide in an armored  vehichle hoping I do not get killed. Ummm.. NO thanks.

You wouldn't, as we would rule over Mexico. Our superior administration and governance would destroy the problems that are turning Mexico into a horrible place and we would Americanize it. It might take time sure, but eventually things would turn out for the better. It would just be like any other vacation.

Then we could give it responsible government and make it our own little "crown colony' type of thing.

 HAHAHAHHAH!! Okay so our government and local authorities cannot control the gang and cartel violence that already exist here, but they are suddenly going to be able to control it there? We have areas here in Dallas where the police do not show up until the shooting stops, and it is daylight . not to make arrests, but to collect bodies...

I didn't know that there was civil unrest in Dallas. If things are really as you are saying, then perhaps the city requires martial law and military protection.

 The gang violence has been going on for years, and not just in Dallas, look at Detroit, Hell California is a mess.. Maybe you should study up on gangs a bit.. LOL

Gang cities

Well this is completely unacceptable... how could it not be the first priority of all politicians to ensure the safety of our nation internally? We should isolate from world affairs until we can take care of ourselves. Our soldiers need to be in our cities defending our citizens from gangs. Rule with an iron fist or don't rule at all.

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Here is my stance -

 

~Beef up borders

~Put pressure on other countries to control their population

~All states become stricter with obtaining a state ID's where a state ID/License can be used as citizenship/Legal alien ID

~Interrogate illegal aliens and go after employers and enablers

~Do not allow illegal aliens to attend public schools (proof of parental citizenship/Legal alien documentation) -- some say this will allow the kids to turn to crime and poverty however I believe that a lot of family's come to the US (legally and illegally) to get free education. Take the opportunity away and it will reduce illegal traffic.

~The states should have the right to require proof of citizenship on any citation or legal infraction for everyone.

 That would be a futile effort in Mexico, they can't even keep their officials alive, who would be able to enforce it? Unless the US sends in military force, it isn't going to happen.

How about we just take over Mexico and make it the the 51st state?  :D Canada, you're next!!

 LOL, you would not want to open the border with Mexico ANY TIME in the foreseeable future. At the moment it is hell on earth.

BURRITOS EVERYWHERE

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Mexicans like they're fucking savages?

 I didn't see anyone say " Mexicans are savages". You are making unwarranted assumptions. If you read my previous discussion on the subject you would obviously be able to tell that I was reffering to their current situation. With the current conditions in Mexico, it makes it HELL on earth.  NO where in any of my statements did I say, " Mexicans are a bunch of savages". quit being ridiculous. If you actually look at my post on the " Obama hates white men" thread, you would see I am quite compassionate for those that are just trying to feed their families, so assuming that I think they are a bunch of savages is absurd.

 The reason we could not even contemplate opening our borders is that currently even their own military cannot control the Cartle violence and drug trafficking, how could our police officers? Do you think that exposing more US citizens to that violence will help the situation at all? As is, Americans are at High risk even trying to go into the region, at risk for kidnapping or being murdered.

Kidnapping in Mexico

Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes

It wouldn't be police officers but actual military forces. Clearly Mexico is a place that people want to escape from, and it just so happens that they escape to here. By closing our borders strictly, we are condemning those would-be illegal immigrants to death and suffering. Therefore, by us invading Mexico, pursuing our infamous "nation-building" policy and setting up our superior administration, we will be doing the Mexicans, as well as ourselves, a favor. Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country. Besides the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""modernist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and hippie values that people have that makes them think war is strictly and only bad in all circumstances, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the best interests of all to go all-in to fixing the Mexico problem. Call the invasion our "final solution" if you will.

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. That's all I can say. Your POV is so intellectually and morally bankrupt that a piece-by-piece dissection would be completely pointless. And that fact that you so glibly use the term "final solution" just shows what an ignorant asshole you truly are.

How come? You're just saying words with no support.

Because you're pig-ignorant slime and not worth the time.

"Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country."

One of the reasons you want to go to war with Mexico is so you have a nice place to go on vacation.

 LOL my idea of a nice relaxing vacation is not wearing a bullet proof vest and having to hide in an armored  vehichle hoping I do not get killed. Ummm.. NO thanks.

You wouldn't, as we would rule over Mexico. Our superior administration and governance would destroy the problems that are turning Mexico into a horrible place and we would Americanize it. It might take time sure, but eventually things would turn out for the better. It would just be like any other vacation.

Then we could give it responsible government and make it our own little "crown colony' type of thing.

 HAHAHAHHAH!! Okay so our government and local authorities cannot control the gang and cartel violence that already exist here, but they are suddenly going to be able to control it there? We have areas here in Dallas where the police do not show up until the shooting stops, and it is daylight . not to make arrests, but to collect bodies...

I didn't know that there was civil unrest in Dallas. If things are really as you are saying, then perhaps the city requires martial law and military protection.

 The gang violence has been going on for years, and not just in Dallas, look at Detroit, Hell California is a mess.. Maybe you should study up on gangs a bit.. LOL

Gang cities

Well this is completely unacceptable... how could it not be the first priority of all politicians to ensure the safety of our nation internally? We should isolate from world affairs until we can take care of ourselves. Our soldiers need to be in our cities defending our citizens from gangs. Rule with an iron fist or don't rule at all.

Silly. But it isn't just internal gangs ...

Mexican Cartels in Nearly 200 U.S. Cities

We can't stop the illegal Mexican cartels in our own country, I don't see how we could stop them anywhere else..

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Here is my stance -

 

~Beef up borders

~Put pressure on other countries to control their population

~All states become stricter with obtaining a state ID's where a state ID/License can be used as citizenship/Legal alien ID

~Interrogate illegal aliens and go after employers and enablers

~Do not allow illegal aliens to attend public schools (proof of parental citizenship/Legal alien documentation) -- some say this will allow the kids to turn to crime and poverty however I believe that a lot of family's come to the US (legally and illegally) to get free education. Take the opportunity away and it will reduce illegal traffic.

~The states should have the right to require proof of citizenship on any citation or legal infraction for everyone.

 That would be a futile effort in Mexico, they can't even keep their officials alive, who would be able to enforce it? Unless the US sends in military force, it isn't going to happen.

How about we just take over Mexico and make it the the 51st state?  :D Canada, you're next!!

 LOL, you would not want to open the border with Mexico ANY TIME in the foreseeable future. At the moment it is hell on earth.

BURRITOS EVERYWHERE

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Mexicans like they're fucking savages?

 I didn't see anyone say " Mexicans are savages". You are making unwarranted assumptions. If you read my previous discussion on the subject you would obviously be able to tell that I was reffering to their current situation. With the current conditions in Mexico, it makes it HELL on earth.  NO where in any of my statements did I say, " Mexicans are a bunch of savages". quit being ridiculous. If you actually look at my post on the " Obama hates white men" thread, you would see I am quite compassionate for those that are just trying to feed their families, so assuming that I think they are a bunch of savages is absurd.

 The reason we could not even contemplate opening our borders is that currently even their own military cannot control the Cartle violence and drug trafficking, how could our police officers? Do you think that exposing more US citizens to that violence will help the situation at all? As is, Americans are at High risk even trying to go into the region, at risk for kidnapping or being murdered.

Kidnapping in Mexico

Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes

It wouldn't be police officers but actual military forces. Clearly Mexico is a place that people want to escape from, and it just so happens that they escape to here. By closing our borders strictly, we are condemning those would-be illegal immigrants to death and suffering. Therefore, by us invading Mexico, pursuing our infamous "nation-building" policy and setting up our superior administration, we will be doing the Mexicans, as well as ourselves, a favor. Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country. Besides the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""modernist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and hippie values that people have that makes them think war is strictly and only bad in all circumstances, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the best interests of all to go all-in to fixing the Mexico problem. Call the invasion our "final solution" if you will.

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. That's all I can say. Your POV is so intellectually and morally bankrupt that a piece-by-piece dissection would be completely pointless. And that fact that you so glibly use the term "final solution" just shows what an ignorant asshole you truly are.

How come? You're just saying words with no support.

Because you're pig-ignorant slime and not worth the time.

"Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country."

One of the reasons you want to go to war with Mexico is so you have a nice place to go on vacation.

 LOL my idea of a nice relaxing vacation is not wearing a bullet proof vest and having to hide in an armored  vehichle hoping I do not get killed. Ummm.. NO thanks.

You wouldn't, as we would rule over Mexico. Our superior administration and governance would destroy the problems that are turning Mexico into a horrible place and we would Americanize it. It might take time sure, but eventually things would turn out for the better. It would just be like any other vacation.

Then we could give it responsible government and make it our own little "crown colony' type of thing.

 HAHAHAHHAH!! Okay so our government and local authorities cannot control the gang and cartel violence that already exist here, but they are suddenly going to be able to control it there? We have areas here in Dallas where the police do not show up until the shooting stops, and it is daylight . not to make arrests, but to collect bodies...

I didn't know that there was civil unrest in Dallas. If things are really as you are saying, then perhaps the city requires martial law and military protection.

 The gang violence has been going on for years, and not just in Dallas, look at Detroit, Hell California is a mess.. Maybe you should study up on gangs a bit.. LOL

Gang cities

Well this is completely unacceptable... how could it not be the first priority of all politicians to ensure the safety of our nation internally? We should isolate from world affairs until we can take care of ourselves. Our soldiers need to be in our cities defending our citizens from gangs. Rule with an iron fist or don't rule at all.

Silly. But it isn't just internal gangs ...

Mexican Cartels in Nearly 200 U.S. Cities

We can't stop the illegal Mexican cartels in our own country, I don't see how we could stop them anywhere else..

The solution is martial law and military intervention. While our inefficient government type of a constitutional republic/representative democracy breeds corruption and takes forever for decisions to happen, in an optimal country ruled by a decisive leader, the solution would be to apply the needed military intervention to combat the gangs until every last one of them is squashed and destroyed. Put fear into the gangs of every city. Iron fist.

Originally posted by deviliscious

 LOL my idea of a nice relaxing vacation is not wearing a bullet proof vest and having to hide in an armored  vehichle hoping I do not get killed. Ummm.. NO thanks.

 I had a vacation like that once.  Good times.

So I've been reading the bill that I have posted and found something pretty interesting. Right around page 9 they make it illegal to pick up day laborers off the street and also makes it illegal for companies to hire illegal workers. I haven't found what the punishment is but I remember seeing a lot of people complain that we don't punish the companies that do the hiring. Well, it looks like that is about to change.

Originally posted by seabass2003

So I've been reading the bill that I have posted and found something pretty interesting. Right around page 9 they make it illegal to pick up day laborers off the street and also makes it illegal for companies to hire illegal workers. I haven't found what the punishment is but I remember seeing a lot of people complain that we don't punish the companies that do the hiring. Well, it looks like that is about to change.

More reason to support the bill! Seems like Arizona understands what an iron fist is.

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Here is my stance -

 

~Beef up borders

~Put pressure on other countries to control their population

~All states become stricter with obtaining a state ID's where a state ID/License can be used as citizenship/Legal alien ID

~Interrogate illegal aliens and go after employers and enablers

~Do not allow illegal aliens to attend public schools (proof of parental citizenship/Legal alien documentation) -- some say this will allow the kids to turn to crime and poverty however I believe that a lot of family's come to the US (legally and illegally) to get free education. Take the opportunity away and it will reduce illegal traffic.

~The states should have the right to require proof of citizenship on any citation or legal infraction for everyone.

 That would be a futile effort in Mexico, they can't even keep their officials alive, who would be able to enforce it? Unless the US sends in military force, it isn't going to happen.

How about we just take over Mexico and make it the the 51st state?  :D Canada, you're next!!

 LOL, you would not want to open the border with Mexico ANY TIME in the foreseeable future. At the moment it is hell on earth.

BURRITOS EVERYWHERE

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Mexicans like they're fucking savages?

 I didn't see anyone say " Mexicans are savages". You are making unwarranted assumptions. If you read my previous discussion on the subject you would obviously be able to tell that I was reffering to their current situation. With the current conditions in Mexico, it makes it HELL on earth.  NO where in any of my statements did I say, " Mexicans are a bunch of savages". quit being ridiculous. If you actually look at my post on the " Obama hates white men" thread, you would see I am quite compassionate for those that are just trying to feed their families, so assuming that I think they are a bunch of savages is absurd.

 The reason we could not even contemplate opening our borders is that currently even their own military cannot control the Cartle violence and drug trafficking, how could our police officers? Do you think that exposing more US citizens to that violence will help the situation at all? As is, Americans are at High risk even trying to go into the region, at risk for kidnapping or being murdered.

Kidnapping in Mexico

Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes

It wouldn't be police officers but actual military forces. Clearly Mexico is a place that people want to escape from, and it just so happens that they escape to here. By closing our borders strictly, we are condemning those would-be illegal immigrants to death and suffering. Therefore, by us invading Mexico, pursuing our infamous "nation-building" policy and setting up our superior administration, we will be doing the Mexicans, as well as ourselves, a favor. Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country. Besides the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""modernist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and hippie values that people have that makes them think war is strictly and only bad in all circumstances, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the best interests of all to go all-in to fixing the Mexico problem. Call the invasion our "final solution" if you will.

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. That's all I can say. Your POV is so intellectually and morally bankrupt that a piece-by-piece dissection would be completely pointless. And that fact that you so glibly use the term "final solution" just shows what an ignorant asshole you truly are.

How come? You're just saying words with no support.

Because you're pig-ignorant slime and not worth the time.

"Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country."

One of the reasons you want to go to war with Mexico is so you have a nice place to go on vacation.

 LOL my idea of a nice relaxing vacation is not wearing a bullet proof vest and having to hide in an armored  vehichle hoping I do not get killed. Ummm.. NO thanks.

You wouldn't, as we would rule over Mexico. Our superior administration and governance would destroy the problems that are turning Mexico into a horrible place and we would Americanize it. It might take time sure, but eventually things would turn out for the better. It would just be like any other vacation.

Then we could give it responsible government and make it our own little "crown colony' type of thing.

 HAHAHAHHAH!! Okay so our government and local authorities cannot control the gang and cartel violence that already exist here, but they are suddenly going to be able to control it there? We have areas here in Dallas where the police do not show up until the shooting stops, and it is daylight . not to make arrests, but to collect bodies...

I didn't know that there was civil unrest in Dallas. If things are really as you are saying, then perhaps the city requires martial law and military protection.

 The gang violence has been going on for years, and not just in Dallas, look at Detroit, Hell California is a mess.. Maybe you should study up on gangs a bit.. LOL

Gang cities

Well this is completely unacceptable... how could it not be the first priority of all politicians to ensure the safety of our nation internally? We should isolate from world affairs until we can take care of ourselves. Our soldiers need to be in our cities defending our citizens from gangs. Rule with an iron fist or don't rule at all.

Silly. But it isn't just internal gangs ...

Mexican Cartels in Nearly 200 U.S. Cities

We can't stop the illegal Mexican cartels in our own country, I don't see how we could stop them anywhere else..

The solution is martial law and military intervention. While our inefficient government type of a constitutional republic/representative democracy breeds corruption and takes forever for decisions to happen, in an optimal country ruled by a decisive leader, the solution would be to apply the needed military intervention to combat the gangs until every last one of them is squashed and destroyed. Put fear into the gangs of every city. Iron fist.

 You know... You're kinda scary.

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by zchmrkenhoff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by sif-lawd

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by objeff

Here is my stance -

 

~Beef up borders

~Put pressure on other countries to control their population

~All states become stricter with obtaining a state ID's where a state ID/License can be used as citizenship/Legal alien ID

~Interrogate illegal aliens and go after employers and enablers

~Do not allow illegal aliens to attend public schools (proof of parental citizenship/Legal alien documentation) -- some say this will allow the kids to turn to crime and poverty however I believe that a lot of family's come to the US (legally and illegally) to get free education. Take the opportunity away and it will reduce illegal traffic.

~The states should have the right to require proof of citizenship on any citation or legal infraction for everyone.

 That would be a futile effort in Mexico, they can't even keep their officials alive, who would be able to enforce it? Unless the US sends in military force, it isn't going to happen.

How about we just take over Mexico and make it the the 51st state?  :D Canada, you're next!!

 LOL, you would not want to open the border with Mexico ANY TIME in the foreseeable future. At the moment it is hell on earth.

BURRITOS EVERYWHERE

Can we PLEASE stop talking about Mexicans like they're fucking savages?

 I didn't see anyone say " Mexicans are savages". You are making unwarranted assumptions. If you read my previous discussion on the subject you would obviously be able to tell that I was reffering to their current situation. With the current conditions in Mexico, it makes it HELL on earth.  NO where in any of my statements did I say, " Mexicans are a bunch of savages". quit being ridiculous. If you actually look at my post on the " Obama hates white men" thread, you would see I am quite compassionate for those that are just trying to feed their families, so assuming that I think they are a bunch of savages is absurd.

 The reason we could not even contemplate opening our borders is that currently even their own military cannot control the Cartle violence and drug trafficking, how could our police officers? Do you think that exposing more US citizens to that violence will help the situation at all? As is, Americans are at High risk even trying to go into the region, at risk for kidnapping or being murdered.

Kidnapping in Mexico

Mexico acknowledges migrant abuse, pledges changes

It wouldn't be police officers but actual military forces. Clearly Mexico is a place that people want to escape from, and it just so happens that they escape to here. By closing our borders strictly, we are condemning those would-be illegal immigrants to death and suffering. Therefore, by us invading Mexico, pursuing our infamous "nation-building" policy and setting up our superior administration, we will be doing the Mexicans, as well as ourselves, a favor. Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country. Besides the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""modernist""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" and hippie values that people have that makes them think war is strictly and only bad in all circumstances, I see no reason why it wouldn't be in the best interests of all to go all-in to fixing the Mexico problem. Call the invasion our "final solution" if you will.

You're a fucking moron. Seriously. That's all I can say. Your POV is so intellectually and morally bankrupt that a piece-by-piece dissection would be completely pointless. And that fact that you so glibly use the term "final solution" just shows what an ignorant asshole you truly are.

How come? You're just saying words with no support.

Because you're pig-ignorant slime and not worth the time.

"Our maps will have quite a large addition to its southern border as well, and we will have enjoyable places to go to vacation on all inside of the country."

One of the reasons you want to go to war with Mexico is so you have a nice place to go on vacation.

 LOL my idea of a nice relaxing vacation is not wearing a bullet proof vest and having to hide in an armored  vehichle hoping I do not get killed. Ummm.. NO thanks.

You wouldn't, as we would rule over Mexico. Our superior administration and governance would destroy the problems that are turning Mexico into a horrible place and we would Americanize it. It might take time sure, but eventually things would turn out for the better. It would just be like any other vacation.

Then we could give it responsible government and make it our own little "crown colony' type of thing.

 HAHAHAHHAH!! Okay so our government and local authorities cannot control the gang and cartel violence that already exist here, but they are suddenly going to be able to control it there? We have areas here in Dallas where the police do not show up until the shooting stops, and it is daylight . not to make arrests, but to collect bodies...

I didn't know that there was civil unrest in Dallas. If things are really as you are saying, then perhaps the city requires martial law and military protection.

 The gang violence has been going on for years, and not just in Dallas, look at Detroit, Hell California is a mess.. Maybe you should study up on gangs a bit.. LOL

Gang cities

Well this is completely unacceptable... how could it not be the first priority of all politicians to ensure the safety of our nation internally? We should isolate from world affairs until we can take care of ourselves. Our soldiers need to be in our cities defending our citizens from gangs. Rule with an iron fist or don't rule at all.

Silly. But it isn't just internal gangs ...

Mexican Cartels in Nearly 200 U.S. Cities

We can't stop the illegal Mexican cartels in our own country, I don't see how we could stop them anywhere else..

The solution is martial law and military intervention. While our inefficient government type of a constitutional republic/representative democracy breeds corruption and takes forever for decisions to happen, in an optimal country ruled by a decisive leader, the solution would be to apply the needed military intervention to combat the gangs until every last one of them is squashed and destroyed. Put fear into the gangs of every city. Iron fist.

 You know... You're kinda scary.