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4/20/10 2:15:28 AM#81
Originally posted by AmazingAvery Here are the quotes AMD prefers: Please dont give a stranger advice that are plain silly :). And the links you provided just showed how messed up things are. ATI relased the 5870 and tests showed (im just refering to the test that I got from your link) that the new card was doing good, but not great if you compaird it with Nivdias 295. Fastest, best and greatest is just silly sale points. I buy a card that suits my needs- and when I build pc´s to friends I check with them what type of games they are gonna play and buy a card from that information. |
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4/21/10 8:52:21 AM#82
Hmm, nVidia sais that the GTX 470/480 can replace the CPU, does that mean that if the CPU goes "poof" you don't have to worry? |
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4/22/10 12:28:07 AM#83
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4/22/10 10:26:13 AM#84
Originally posted by Sabiancym 5970 is dual gpu. 480 is single gpu. 480 rival is 5870. 480 is 9 times faster than 5870. fastest single gpu on the planet = GTX 480 fastest dual gpu on the planet FOR NOW = 5890 fastest gpu setup = three GTX 480 in tri-sli
5890's rival from nvndia have not arrive. soon and it will kick 5890 ass.
usually ati is bang for the bucks and runs hot and bad driver. usually nvidia is the best. |
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4/22/10 12:01:58 PM#85
where is the glory in nvidia beating a 10 month old card lol!they were supposed to do that last august. i sure dont see nvidia in all its glory !and remember this !the rate of success of having a good chip in their waffer is so low !you have more chance of having a bad one then a good one at ati ?the yield as be very high months in the 100% yield that means all chip were goods! so if i have to gamble sorry but i ll take ati (safe route)maybe nvidia will improve but by then they ll have intel waving at them good by in their new speed demon! |
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4/22/10 12:35:06 PM#86
Originally posted by Pinkerl Wow, just wow. |
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4/22/10 12:36:10 PM#87
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4/22/10 12:41:16 PM#88
see above post!20% to 30 % success rate ?like i said in my early post you have more chance of stumbling on a bad one then on a good one! ty for the link! |
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4/22/10 1:40:57 PM#89
Originally posted by drbaltazar 4870 was so inferior to gtx 280. 10 months later 4890 comes and still very much inferior to 280.
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4/22/10 1:49:25 PM#90
Originally posted by Pinkerl BS. It was a reasonable choice in lower price class. { Mod Edit } |
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4/22/10 2:22:14 PM#91
No dude it's 9 times faster. |
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4/23/10 5:37:40 AM#92
Originally posted by Pinkerl Nine times faster?! LMAO! It's more like 10%. And whats this gibberish about the 5890? It will launch this summer and then nVidia will have the second best single GPU card. |
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4/25/10 1:52:53 AM#93
Originally posted by Mellow44 Nine times faster seems a bit optimistic, yes. I am however pretty sure that the 480 will outperform all single GPU cards from ATI, so sure that I have ordered a 480 at least but we won't know that to 100% until we seen some better benchtest but I can at least quote Toms hardware (kinda trust them more than you, no offense): The GeForce GTX 480 is the fastest single-GPU solution available right now; but if that's not enough speed for you, then how about putting four of them together? |
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4/25/10 1:57:11 AM#94
Even though they have Quad SLI, its not actually possible to use it with a GTX480 reasonably. On load 4 of them would be over 1200w and the temp would be beyond reasonable. |
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AmazingAvery
 Age of Conan Advocate
Joined: 1/16/07
The only time you run out of chances is when you stop taking them. |
4/25/10 2:07:57 AM#95
Originally posted by Cleffy Your also talking $2k + in just GPU too, if one was to spend that much on 4 way sli I would presume they would have 2 x PSU too, not to mention WC cards. Trubritar on youtube has a 4 way set up with good temps and high, high load. Pure enthusiast.
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4/29/10 9:32:03 AM#96
I think we're forgetting the point here though. Yes, one can put four GTX480s into SLI with dual power supplies and liquid cooling, and add $1 to their monthly power bill ever 13 minutes, but 99.9% of users who use their machines for gaming will not. For the rest of us, the Radeon HD 5870 is already vastly superior to the GTX480 in most respects. It might be "slower", but it's no slower for the money, and it achieves its performance with a much, much lower power consumption and heat output. If one really isn't satisfied with the performance of one 5870, one can just dive into Crossfire, again, getting way more performance per watt. The only point at which getting a GTX480 makes sense is if somehow you need the exact level of performance it provides, and have the exact budget to buy one, no more or less.
The other thing to remember is that the 5890 is probably not far off. Ati doesn't really have to do all that much to beat the GTX480 with this card either. In fact, if the 5890 proves to be just a little faster compared to the 5870 than the 4890 was to the 4870, Ati will match or beat the GTX480. Even if the 5890 only showed the same performance increase that the 4890 did, is it really worth 5% more performance to get the GTX480 over the 5890 and consume twice as much power and put off twice as much heat? I suppose for some it might be, but for me personally, 5% just isn't much incentive there, and I think a lot of people will end up agreeing with me. For new builds, that extra power consumption is going to mean buying a beefier PSU anyways, so you'll be paying a premium for that 5%. |
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4/29/10 10:43:06 AM#97
try to overclock a 480 for fun!ati 5870 can be overclocked to surprising number!ati use 10 month old techno and 480 just came out so even if it is faster then a 5870 nvidia cannot brag about it since they had to go to such lengt and took so long to beat 5870 ati doesnt really have to focus on nvidia because lets face it their real treath is gona be the next gen proc with the graphic included from intel some might say it wont be as powerfull!lol!intel learned from their past mistake !it doesnt have to be!if it pass all test at the same speed as an ati ,intel couldnt care less if they are using diff tech some mistakenly believe intel is too far behind ati .ati focus only on graphic intel use the processor and the graphic chip to achieve their goal and with 6 core and a 32 nm graphic solution all on the processor even if intel is slower it will stil perform similar to ati because of proc/graphic distance is a lot shorter then a pcie slot (ati is still in the 4x nm and isnt progressing)and on proc solution is a lot faster then anything else. in the end intel solution will be more widely adopted because of its versatility.just this 6 core gen can run best todays game with 4 live feed of player smoothly without lag ,amd isnt optimised for that they need to patch and i dont think amd is evolved enough for that(unless they turn and ask ibm,that could happen since the sleeping dragon is still a dragon(ibm)and cannot just be dismissed as a ragged doll.no mather how many wiches it!)the key thing here is will ibm make a move it happened before so i wouldnt be surprised they kept amd in the game for decade! |
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4/29/10 1:42:56 PM#98
Drbaltazar, not to get off topic, but you're grossly overestimating what a GPU built into a CPU is going to be capable of. Integrated GPUs have gotten impressively powerful compared to what they were a few generations ago, and I'm sure the power consumption of such a setup will be very low (which will give the technology a greate niche in the notebook market), but under no circumstances are these going to be gaming GPUs. As for the notion of even trying to overclock a GTX480, I'm pretty sure the card would either evaporate inside your case, or get so hot that nuclear fusion would spontaneously occur and the energy release would destroy your house |
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5/03/10 10:06:04 AM#99
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5/14/10 12:47:17 AM#100
I bought my 280GTX when it first came out and I still have it. It still runs almost everything at max at 1900x1200. It's been about 2 years now. My 8800 Ultra lasted me around the same amount of time. So ya...you're lying. You'd think there'd be better things to do with your time. |
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