Jon "NERVERDIE" Jacobs the man infamous in Entropia Universe for a number of pricey transactions, including the $100,000 purchase of virtual property and the $69,696 sale of a virtual egg, has opened up a new rock-and-roll themed planet called "Rocktropia" in Entropia Universe. The planet was developed by Neverdie Studios using the Entropia platform.

Rocktropia includes destinations such as "Motörhead Stadium", "Lemmy Kilmister's Castle", Cash Money's Kevin Rudolfs' "Zomhattan", and the pop culture capital "The City of Dreams".

Visit the official Rocktropia website here.

So he bought this planet and he could decide how they designed it? or did he have to do that himself? or did the planet come like that when he bought it?

Would be pretty cool if he bought it and could tell the devs how he wanted it to look etc.

NEVERDIE (not NERVERDIE) founded his own studio to create the planet.

Basically, RockTropia uses all the mechanisms (code) available within Entropia Universe, and added his own content (textures and monsters/animations). The idea behind the Entropia Universe is that MindArk supplies the platform, and planet partners attract new participants. The revenue is then split between MindArk and the planet partner.

EDIT: To elaborate: f i understood the model correctly, MindArk (MA) trains planet partners (who will need to get approval (read: funding) before they are allowed to call themselves planet partners) to use the MindArk CryEngine 2 dev environment. So MA provides the platform, the economic model, the code-base, the servers, bandwith, etc etc, and the planet partner delivers the content and the new users.

There is at least 1 indie project trying to become a planet partner: http://www.planet-postmoderna.com/

HTH.

VF - www.entropiaplanets.com

Too bad Entropia isn't a better game.  It actually has a really interesting platform.

Does he have permission to use all these epic rock names in this venture?

Originally posted by DeathWolf2u

What....the.............!!!!!!!!!

 

Holy cr@p people still play this piece of garbage?

 

Project Entropia what it originally was named died in the beginning of 2000.

 

Next I'll log onto mmorpg.com and someone will have revived a real dinosaur, sheesh.

Well... Hellgate is coming back to the West, next time you login the game will be back up :P

I cant believe hes the "most famous avatar in the world", "the most successful avatar in the world", and named a "studio" after his avatar name... what the ****, rich ppl with an ego. 

Does anyone play The Sims Online, IMVU, Second Life, There.com? Anshe Chung is the most famous and successful PERSON in the world, in my opinion.

Anyway, other than that, I have no interest in a "Rock" Tropia, because its the Entropia engine and that game is an old platform... I didnt spend thousands on a gaming rig to play out-dated games.

Originally posted by rikar

I cant believe hes the "most famous avatar in the world", "the most successful avatar in the world", and named a "studio" after his avatar name... what the ****, rich ppl with an ego. 

Does anyone play The Sims Online, IMVU, Second Life, There.com? Anshe Chung is the most famous and successful PERSON in the world, in my opinion.

Anyway, other than that, I have no interest in a "Rock" Tropia, because its the Entropia engine and that game is an old platform... I didnt spend thousands on a gaming rig to play out-dated games.

 Well, who is the most successful etc depends how you measure it I guess. Anshe tried EU but didn't do very well.

So the Entropia engine is outdated? You do know that it uses Cryengine2 right?

Nevertheless, EU isn't like other "games" and it doesn't fit everybodys taste. To skill up takes time and patience if you want to do it for the lowest cost possible. If you are in a hurry and have deep pockets you can do it fast by buying skills from other players. In that way players that doesn't want to spend (many) money can sell their skills to people that will, and thus earn money. If you really are interested in EU, I would suggest to read up about it and use different sources for your information. Some forums is filled with people that use every oppurtunity to make it sound bad, while others are full of people that makes it sound better than it really is. I will leave it up to you to find links for yourself, as whatever I might provided might be a bit biased.

Oh dear Rikar seems like you just made a fatal fail.

Entropia Universe is the best looking MMO on the market as it is using the same engine as Crysis. However it is a money sink still and when you add real world money into a game then you get the scammers.

Originally posted by jinxit

Does he have permission to use all these epic rock names in this venture?

If you mean by those names quoted like motorhead stadium etc. then yeah. Those people all came to him, it's like a "planet" revolved around promoting and advertising music, therefore a few bands bought some real estate to promote their crap.

Originally posted by ViagraFalls

NEVERDIE (not NERVERDIE) founded his own studio to create the planet.

Basically, RockTropia uses all the mechanisms (code) available within Entropia Universe, and added his own content (textures and monsters/animations). The idea behind the Entropia Universe is that MindArk supplies the platform, and planet partners attract new participants. The revenue is then split between MindArk and the planet partner.

 

EDIT: To elaborate: f i understood the model correctly, MindArk (MA) trains planet partners (who will need to get approval (read: funding) before they are allowed to call themselves planet partners) to use the MindArk CryEngine 2 dev environment. So MA provides the platform, the economic model, the code-base, the servers, bandwith, etc etc, and the planet partner delivers the content and the new users.

There is at least 1 indie project trying to become a planet partner: http://www.planet-postmoderna.com/

HTH.

 

VF - www.entropiaplanets.com

Dont you just LOVE people making 1 new account and then promote their game/cause with it .... lol go away!

Originally posted by patrikd23

Originally posted by ViagraFalls

 

HTH.

 

VF - www.entropiaplanets.com

Dont you just LOVE people making 1 new account and then promote their game/cause with it .... lol go away!

Um, wtf? ViagraFalls makes no money directly by promoting Entropia. Sure he runs an EU forum, but so what? He, like me and others understand that EU, like any game, improves as the customer base increases. How is this different from, oh I dunno, everybody else here that speaks well of the game they play?

Funny reading the quote under your account.

The only way to have a friend is to be one.

Guess you were so focused on the forum link you missed the "happy to help" part as well.

Originally posted by JohnCapital

Originally posted by patrikd23

Originally posted by ViagraFalls

 

HTH.

 

VF - www.entropiaplanets.com

Dont you just LOVE people making 1 new account and then promote their game/cause with it .... lol go away!

 

Um, wtf? ViagraFalls makes no money directly by promoting Entropia. Sure he runs an EU forum, but so what? He, like me and others understand that EU, like any game, improves as the customer base increases. How is this different from, oh I dunno, everybody else here that speaks well of the game they play?

 

Funny reading the quote under your account.

The only way to have a friend is to be one.

Guess you were so focused on the forum link you missed the "happy to help" part as well.

Ofc it helps with player base, they want as many as possible playing since it cost real money to kill mobs. You dont have to explain to me how it works I played the game long before you probably since I started playing 2002. And ofc more people losing money (not ingame money but real money) is always welcome to mindark, or FPC. 

First off it costs 70 ped ( like 7dollars) to get the that place called Rockotropia, and when you get there you find some halfass made mobs that sure need alot of more work before it acually looks somewhat good.

And if you wanna quote my "Only way to have a friend is to be one" then maybe you and all your friends can give me money. Since that is EXACTLY what we are talking about now and not playerbase.

If you are unclear on any of these point please feel free to post it here, but lying about the true intent and try to talk someone down that knows exactly how Project Entropia works... that is an insult and sure not any facts.

Originally posted by patrikd23

Ofc it helps with player base, they want as many as possible playing since it cost real money to kill mobs. You dont have to explain to me how it works I played the game long before you probably since I started playing 2002. And ofc more people losing money (not ingame money but real money) is always welcome to mindark, or FPC. 

First off it costs 70 ped ( like 7dollars) to get the that place called Rockotropia, and when you get there you find some halfass made mobs that sure need alot of more work before it acually looks somewhat good.

And if you wanna quote my "Only way to have a friend is to be one" then maybe you and all your friends can give me money. Since that is EXACTLY what we are talking about now and not playerbase.

If you are unclear on any of these point please feel free to post it here, but lying about the true intent and try to talk someone down that knows exactly how Project Entropia works... that is an insult and sure not any facts.

Yes, EU costs real money. Real money in. Real money out. And yes, of course you're gonna lose part of your money. (How do you expect the company to stay in business?) So, what? You played years ago and couldn't make a million dollars so you left and now you trash it? OK nice move. (Or are you still playing?)

Don't talk to me about facts mate. The travel fee is ~$4, not $7. (Where'd you hear that $7 crap?)

However, that fee is high for a reason. There isn't meant to be huge back-n-forth traffic between the planets like there is between the continents of Calypso. That fee is more meant to be a "moving fee" like packing up all your stuff on Calypso and moving to ROCKtropia, where you intend to stay long term.

Think of it as the cost of a U-haul. If you're dumb enough to keep moving back and forth from New York to Florida, you're gonna pile up quite a moving bill, aren't you?

And you want my money? Fine, come to EU and loot the things I'm willing to buy and sell them to me for a price we can agree on. I do business with my friends ingame every day. I even do business with my enemies.

Capitalism. The cure for the world's woes.

Originally posted by JohnCapital

Originally posted by patrikd23

Ofc it helps with player base, they want as many as possible playing since it cost real money to kill mobs. You dont have to explain to me how it works I played the game long before you probably since I started playing 2002. And ofc more people losing money (not ingame money but real money) is always welcome to mindark, or FPC. 

First off it costs 70 ped ( like 7dollars) to get the that place called Rockotropia, and when you get there you find some halfass made mobs that sure need alot of more work before it acually looks somewhat good.

And if you wanna quote my "Only way to have a friend is to be one" then maybe you and all your friends can give me money. Since that is EXACTLY what we are talking about now and not playerbase.

If you are unclear on any of these point please feel free to post it here, but lying about the true intent and try to talk someone down that knows exactly how Project Entropia works... that is an insult and sure not any facts.

Yes, EU costs real money. Real money in. Real money out. And yes, of course you're gonna lose part of your money. (How do you expect the company to stay in business?) So, what? You played years ago and couldn't make a million dollars so you left and now you trash it? OK nice move. (Or are you still playing?)

 

Don't talk to me about facts mate. The travel fee is ~$4, not $7. (Where'd you hear that $7 crap?)

 

However, that fee is high for a reason. There isn't meant to be huge back-n-forth traffic between the planets like there is between the continents of Calypso. That fee is more meant to be a "moving fee" like packing up all your stuff on Calypso and moving to ROCKtropia, where you intend to stay long term.

Think of it as the cost of a U-haul. If you're dumb enough to keep moving back and forth from New York to Florida, you're gonna pile up quite a moving bill, aren't you?

And you want my money? Fine, come to EU and loot the things I'm willing to buy and sell them to me for a price we can agree on. I do business with my friends ingame every day. I even do business with my enemies.

Capitalism. The cure for the world's woes.

Well since the planet is crap and it cost 4 dollar to get there it acually cost 8 dollars since you wanna goback right away and that cost 4 also. So its 8 dollars and not 7 dollars sorry about that.

I wouldnt know about travels from New York to Florida since I live in Gothenburg where Mindark has its office. And I would gladly pay for something worth seeing and not crap.

Capitalism is acually just a good way to enslave people but that disscussion we can save for next year.

I dont put alot of creed in people with 1-10 posts since they just made the accounts to  promote their game and they make it for some free advert. Maybe you should start a fundraizer insted of trying to get more people to lose more money.

To hunt in EU btw on a medium scale cost you about 500 ped for 3 hours. And you should be lucky if you even get 50 % of that back.

Originally posted by patrikd23

Well since the planet is crap and it cost 4 dollar to get there it acually cost 8 dollars since you wanna goback right away and that cost 4 also. So its 8 dollars and not 7 dollars sorry about that.

I wouldnt know about travels from New York to Florida since I live in Gothenburg where Mindark has its office. And I would gladly pay for something worth seeing and not crap.

Capitalism is acually just a good way to enslave people but that disscussion we can save for next year.

I dont put alot of creed in people with 1-10 posts since they just made the accounts to  promote their game and they make it for some free advert. Maybe you should start a fundraizer insted of trying to get more people to lose more money.

To hunt in EU btw on a medium scale cost you about 500 ped for 3 hours. And you should be lucky if you even get 50 % of that back.

As I said, it's $4 one way. Some will stay some won't.

Hope things are well in Gothenburg. I assume since you don't get my analogy about the cost of moving between places, you're just doing that on purpose to be a jerk.

OK, don't put a lot of creed in my low post count here. How about my massive post count on EntropiaForum.com ? Or ViagraFalls' lengthy time in Entropia. Guess you'll just skip the fact that we both know more about that game and can better explain things than you can. (By the way, do you even play still? When was the last time you logged in?)

I play one game. ONE. Entropia. Played it for years now. And yeah there were some topics here I found out about and decided to join in. My post count won't be high here for a reason. I don't play those other games. I found what I like and stick with it.

Guess you're not big on the "hey, welcome to our forum new guy" bit. Guess it's just the old-time jump-from-one-game-to-another no-loyalty more-posts-than-play-time folks you prefer.

If you jump around from game to game as it seems you do (kinda have to, to get such an "uber post count")  than you know not every game appeals to every person.

But since EU allows you to withdraw money legally without having to sell gold on Ebay or whatever, I guess that's enough to warrant such harsh tomes from you.

Are you this rude about the other games too?

Originally posted by JohnCapital

Originally posted by patrikd23

Well since the planet is crap and it cost 4 dollar to get there it acually cost 8 dollars since you wanna goback right away and that cost 4 also. So its 8 dollars and not 7 dollars sorry about that.

I wouldnt know about travels from New York to Florida since I live in Gothenburg where Mindark has its office. And I would gladly pay for something worth seeing and not crap.

Capitalism is acually just a good way to enslave people but that disscussion we can save for next year.

I dont put alot of creed in people with 1-10 posts since they just made the accounts to  promote their game and they make it for some free advert. Maybe you should start a fundraizer insted of trying to get more people to lose more money.

To hunt in EU btw on a medium scale cost you about 500 ped for 3 hours. And you should be lucky if you even get 50 % of that back.

 

As I said, it's $4 one way. Some will stay some won't.

Hope things are well in Gothenburg. I assume since you don't get my analogy about the cost of moving between places, you're just doing that on purpose to be a jerk.

 

OK, don't put a lot of creed in my low post count here. How about my massive post count on EntropiaForum.com ? Or ViagraFalls' lengthy time in Entropia. Guess you'll just skip the fact that we both know more about that game and can better explain things than you can. (By the way, do you even play still? When was the last time you logged in?)

 

I play one game. ONE. Entropia. Played it for years now. And yeah there were some topics here I found out about and decided to join in. My post count won't be high here for a reason. I don't play those other games. I found what I like and stick with it.

 

Guess you're not big on the "hey, welcome to our forum new guy" bit. Guess it's just the old-time jump-from-one-game-to-another no-loyalty more-posts-than-play-time folks you prefer.

 

If you jump around from game to game as it seems you do (kinda have to, to get such an "uber post count")  than you know not every game appeals to every person.

 

But since EU allows you to withdraw money legally without having to sell gold on Ebay or whatever, I guess that's enough to warrant such harsh tomes from you.

 

Are you this rude about the other games too?

Yeah I know about Entropiaforum and you are a Moderator there. Which makes me see your post here more like advertising and I think you can get reported if you just make an account here to post advertising. I know all about it. 

Only difference is that I am telling facts about the game youre trying to glorify the game more than saying the acual truth about the game.

And I am not being a jerk, I said the bottom line on that.  That what is the use of traveling when there is nothing to see yet it costs money?

If you dont play other games then why are you trying to advetise Entropia here, people on this forum already knows what Entropia is like.

Yeah you can withdraw money legally on Entropia but you can also do that on poker and you alot more chance of getting money there than in Entropia. Since you can play against other players there. In Entropia you only play against the bank and the bank always wins.

So my suggestion is that you stay as moderator on entropiaforums and leave mmorpg.com alone.

And being rude and being honest are two different things. Maybe the truth hurts your game, but face reality. A true friend cares about people and he dont want other people losing money which they can use for something better than losing it on a avatarbasedlootreallifeeconomygame like Entropia Universe, Project entropia or like its called now First Planet Calypso.

Originally posted by JohnCapital

Originally posted by patrikd23

 Only difference is that I am telling facts about the game youre trying to glorify the game more than saying the acual truth about the game.

You have utterd not a single truth. You had the travel cost wrong and the rest is purely opinion.

I am not glorifying the game. I'm responding to a attack by you toward a friend of mine. And during that action,  I am dispelling the poor uninformed misconceptions you have about this game.

Entropia is the only game I know of that costs exactly what you want it to cost. You get to choose how much you want to spend. Only got $20/month? Then you can play with that. I avg. $50/month. A friend of mine has paid nothing ever and can withdraw more than my whole account's worth and still have plenty to play on. You, sir are only seeing the big money portion of the game, and crying how you can't play at their level because it's too expensive. Here's a hint: Don't play at their level, play at yours.

And, for the record, I agree with the current loot on ROCktropia, I would recommend that most players stay on Calypso for the time being.

 

As for the rest:

 

Originally posted by patrikd23

Yeah I know about Entropiaforum and you are a Moderator there. Which makes me see your post here more like advertising and I think you can get reported if you just make an account here to post advertising. I know all about it.

OK, report me for "advertising". Guess "advertising" in your dictionary means "disagrees with you". What a joke.

I made an accoutn here to talk about a game. If that's "advertising" then what the hell are you doing? Or is advertising multiple games instead of one ok? Or is bashing the competition to the games you prefer ok?

Seems this is "your" forum. You tell me the rules.

 

Originally posted by patrikd23

 If you dont play other games then why are you trying to advetise Entropia here, people on this forum already knows what Entropia is like.

If you don't play Entropia, then why are you here bashing it?

 

Originally posted by patrikd23

 In Entropia you only play against the bank and the bank always wins.

That idiotic comment tells me that you don't understand the Entropia economy at all, which is precisely the reason you didn't do well "way back in 2002" and why you're bitter now.

 

Yeah I said it. You're bitter. You played some game that you heard others made money on and thought you could do it too. But your poor ability to understand made you lose money and now, years later, you're pissing on a game that has gone on just fine without you.

 

Originally posted by patrikd23

 

A true friend cares about people and he dont want other people losing money which they can use for something better than losing it on a avatarbasedlootreallifeeconomygame like Entropia Universe, Project entropia or like its called now First Planet Calypso.

Accusing me of making my friends lose money? Hey Kettle, you're black.

You tell your friends to spend money on games (in monthly fees, etc.) that they'll never ever legally get back, no matter what they do. I tell friends there's a game that they can choose how much to spend, and is hard as hell to learn, but when you're done, you can sell your things and legally get a small amount of your money back.

Which of us is the better friend?

And just for the record, you also got what FPC stands for wrong. Might wanna correct your "facts" before giving them.

 

Originally posted by patrikd23

 

So my suggestion is that you stay as moderator on entropiaforums and leave mmorpg.com alone.

 

Oh no. I like it here. Think I'll stay.

I been playing Entropia probably years before you started and I still play on occations but since FPC took over losses have been to high. From 50-75 % loss on 9/10 hunts no matter what mobs you hunt. And not to talk about SGA event where I totally lost 30,000 ped that is about 3000 dollars. And didnt even loot one SGA item on constant hunting 14 hours everyday during this event. That is only the last months.

If you got enough money to lose 300 dollars everyday then sure play the game. Back in 2002 I did great it was a good game but its not anymore.

Talked with someother friends ingame and the losses on this event was from 40,000-80,000 ped which is around 4000-8000 dollars on only a few weeks. And most of them are quiting because they lost the trust in the game.

And loots are just bogus since they are avatarbased because under this SGA event same people got all the items from SGA. While others hunted everyday from 10-14 hours and didnt get jack.

All this is pure facts.

Yeah I got the travel fact wrong I said 7 dollars but the cost was 8 dollars, since you wanna get back also. But you are trying to make me look like a liar while infact youre just trying to glorify something by pointing fingers at something else. But I guess that is way you work it.

Since I talk alot with people and friends in the game I know exactly who is the better friend, and that is me. I am not trying to say that "this game rocks try it" and after that people will notice how much money they lose like youre trying. Because that is a glorification of what it really is.

The fact that youre a moderator on the largest Entropia forum there is makes me take you even less seriously. You working for Mindark or FPC too?

Sounds like a good tactics tho, complain about peoples writing and small details to steer their eyes away from the important stuff like your doing here.

I hope mindark or FPC pays you enough to write on this forum. 

Aah, Entropia - one of my favourite games!

Damn, soon i will return to Calypso :)

btw Neverdie is a legend, so shut up!

I was actually going to revisit this game to scope out rocktropia, yet when I went to install the game from their website all it gives me is errors from their downloader/installer.