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  MikeB

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OP  4/07/10 6:20:22 PM#1

Former Quest Online President David Allen is finally weighing in on the Alganon brouhaha that has surrounded his departure from the company, including comments made by his successor Derek Smart.

View David's response below:

For the past two months, there have been changes taking place at Quest Online, L.L.C. (“QOL”) and, unfortunately, a great deal of false information has been publicized.

In an effort to enhance Alganon’s® market visibility and following the direction of certain investors, QOL hired Derek Smart as a consultant on December 3, 2009 to assist in the area of sales and marketing.  Soon thereafter, and for reasons unbeknownst to me, Mr. Smart began a smear campaign attacking my credibility, first privately among the investors, and then publicly.  As many have read on various Internet websites, Mr. Smart has made disparaging remarks concerning my professional work and comments that could lead others to question my loyalty, honesty, and ability to successfully create, build, run, and manage a multi-million dollar MMOG development company; something I have been doing successfully for over four years.  Please be aware that Mr. Smart’s comments are false and that I have filed a civil action against him in Maricopa County Superior Court for his defamatory conduct, among other things.  I have been advised by my legal counsel to offer no further comment at this time on this matter during the pendency of the litigation.

Alganon® is an amazing MMOG that my team and I were able to develop for a fraction of the cost when compared to similar MMOG’s.  This was due in part to a highly talented team of developers and their relentless efforts.  Alganon® has the foundation of a great MMOG with state-of-the-art and custom-built wholly-owned technology, and exclusive intellectual property.

I stand by my efforts in creating Alganon® and building QOL, and believe operating with honesty, integrity, and honor is the only way to conduct proper business.  I am confident that during the process of resolving this conflict, the truth will prevail and the factual account of the activities associated with the development of Alganon® will become known.

For those who can't be bothered, the TL;DR version is that David Allen disputes the claims Derek Smart has made since he departed from Quest Online, going as far as referring to them as a "smear campaign." As a result, Mr. Allen has filed a civil action against Mr. Smart.

View the original response here.

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  Cosmonaut79

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4/07/10 6:32:16 PM#2

I grew up watching basketball at a time when Jordan, Bird, Barkley and others were coming up. A great time to be a kid who loved basketball.  Now that I'm older, I've learned of all the things that went on behind the scenes with these guys and I think to myself, "I'm glad I was a kid when these guys were playing.  I was innocent and had no knowledge of what was really going on to tarnish the enjoyment I had."  Maybe a bad analogy, but this is how I'm starting to feel with MMO''s.  I don't want to know anymore about who is getting fired from  where and who is saying this about who.  I just want to play a fun game and not worry about it.

  mackdawg19

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4/07/10 6:34:39 PM#3

Heh, Allen should of stayed in hiding. If he thinks that about a game that is clearly in trouble, and thinks that his staff was talented when he hired junior programmers and payed them an unusually high salary then ok. I mean don't get me wrong, I would of took the job. But the people he hired were not some rare breed of super human developers. Either or, cival suits are useless for the most part. Part your ways, move on and be done with it. If he thinks his name is tarnished, he should of quit a long time ago. I'll do him justice though, he pay's his employee's which means alot in this day and time. But he has never had any good business sense. I mean seriously, he was trying to make a replica WoW .... just um .... yeah.

  parrotpholk

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4/07/10 6:36:57 PM#4

I am not a DA fan but at least there was a little bit of class in his response and did not resort to childish name calling. Personally I think they are both windbags full of their own poop.

  Sovrath

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4/07/10 6:50:13 PM#5
Originally posted by Cosmonaut79


I grew up watching basketball at a time when Jordan, Bird, Barkley and others were coming up. A great time to be a kid who loved basketball.  Now that I'm older, I've learned of all the things that went on behind the scenes with these guys and I think to myself, "I'm glad I was a kid when these guys were playing.  I was innocent and had no knowledge of what was really going on to tarnish the enjoyment I had."  Maybe a bad analogy, but this is how I'm starting to feel with MMO''s.  I don't want to know anymore about who is getting fired from  where and who is saying this about who.  I just want to play a fun game and not worry about it.

I don't think it's a bad analogy. As a matter of opinion I think it probably goes farther into other aspects of our ever day life.

Over the years I've learned that there are always 2 (or more) sides to every story. And in the end there are a lot of things to weigh before one can make a solid opinion.

  describable

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4/07/10 6:57:10 PM#6
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Cosmonaut79


I grew up watching basketball at a time when Jordan, Bird, Barkley and others were coming up. A great time to be a kid who loved basketball.  Now that I'm older, I've learned of all the things that went on behind the scenes with these guys and I think to myself, "I'm glad I was a kid when these guys were playing.  I was innocent and had no knowledge of what was really going on to tarnish the enjoyment I had."  Maybe a bad analogy, but this is how I'm starting to feel with MMO''s.  I don't want to know anymore about who is getting fired from  where and who is saying this about who.  I just want to play a fun game and not worry about it.

I don't think it's a bad analogy. As a matter of opinion I think it probably goes farther into other aspects of our ever day life.

Over the years I've learned that there are always 2 (or more) sides to every story. And in the end there are a lot of things to weigh before one can make a solid opinion.

 

always more to this world than we'll ever know, i quite like ignorance to be honest... people make a big deal about wanting to know everything... i'd rather know very little, it really is bliss.

remember the days when you thought "bugs" were features in games, and no one really cared about "patches" and any new game your mum bought in a cassette tape was godlike...

looking back most of those games were probably crap... short circuit for the c64 for example.. but that week... it's all i played... ahh to be young again, i think we enjoyed  life and games far better.

 

without the bitchslapping going on in the corner, although you have to admitt..... you're surprised Fox hasn't made a reality show about this yet ;)

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  fyerwall

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4/07/10 6:58:29 PM#7
Originally posted by Sovrath
Originally posted by Cosmonaut79


I grew up watching basketball at a time when Jordan, Bird, Barkley and others were coming up. A great time to be a kid who loved basketball.  Now that I'm older, I've learned of all the things that went on behind the scenes with these guys and I think to myself, "I'm glad I was a kid when these guys were playing.  I was innocent and had no knowledge of what was really going on to tarnish the enjoyment I had."  Maybe a bad analogy, but this is how I'm starting to feel with MMO''s.  I don't want to know anymore about who is getting fired from  where and who is saying this about who.  I just want to play a fun game and not worry about it.

I don't think it's a bad analogy. As a matter of opinion I think it probably goes farther into other aspects of our ever day life.

Over the years I've learned that there are always 2 (or more) sides to every story. And in the end there are a lot of things to weigh before one can make a solid opinion.

 My uncle (was in the Mass State Police for like 40 years) always used to say "There are 3 sides to every story; Yours, Thiers and the Truth..."

In situations like this its pretty spot on, because all we are seeing is mostly Smart's version of things with a little bit of Allen's version to counteract.

We may never know all the facts, but in a way it does provide some fun reading material :P

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  Kokomobl

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4/07/10 7:03:11 PM#8

And to rub it into DA face...

 

Smart goes and does this

http://www.myalganon.com/library/items/details/item_id/403345

  Kordesh

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4/07/10 7:09:46 PM#9

Mr Smart acting in an untruthful and disparaging manner? No, I don't believe that. That's impossible...

 

Ok that was fun. Anyway, DA is definitely the lesser of two evils. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad captain cookie cutter and his cloning vats have been shelved, but at least most of his egotism stems from pride in his game, where as DS is simply a douche. 

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  PhelimReagh

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4/07/10 7:15:56 PM#10

You had to know this was coming. The things that Smart was saying, if he is unable to substantiate the claims that he made against Allen, really have to be libelous (or would internet message board comments be considered slanderous?).

 

At this point all of this drama is just pure entertainment for almost everyone watching. David Allen was unable to properly monetize Alganon, that's a fact. However, he did lead the develpment and oversaw the release an MMO, buggy and underwhelming as it may have been, for what was he claims was a paltry sum by conventional MMO standards. While it's QOL's prerogative to fire the man for whatever reason they choose, I'm pretty sure they were on thin legal ice going ahead and making some of the public claims about Allen's competence, ethics, etc.

 

Allen's reputation was already fairly well-tarnished by the time he left QOL. Had Smart just let sleeping dogs lie and did a bit of work on Alganon, folks probably would have seen the change as a fresh start for Alganon. Instead, Smart's nefarious accusations, forum trolling and flame warring turned him and QOL into the villains, turned Allen into a sympathetic character, and put the final nails into the Alganon coffin.

 

Someone post a link to where Smart responds, if he does. This lawsuit could very well be what it takes for Smart to finally quit his message board antics and find something to do at QOL related to Alganon, the game. But if it isn't, it sure will be entertaining seeing him dig himself in deeper.

 

  PhelimReagh

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4/07/10 7:18:50 PM#11
Originally posted by Kokomobl


And to rub it into DA face...

 

Smart goes and does this

http://www.myalganon.com/library/items/details/item_id/403345

Does this guy get less mature by the day?

 

He actually spent money (i.e., artist's time) developing this? And he questioned Allen's competence, lol.

 

EDIT: Screenie for when QOL's lawyers get them to remove it :D

 

  Kordesh

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4/07/10 7:21:01 PM#12

Honestly, I wish they would just throw both the idiots out, let them squabble amongst themselves, and hire essentially ANYONE else before doing this relaunch. I mean, I've wanted to give it a try just for kicks, but I won't get anywhere near it with Smart involved. 

Additionally, this whole back and forth school yard bullshit is just slowly killing an already troubled game. Amusing though it may be.

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  User Deleted
4/07/10 7:22:30 PM#13

For those who missed it here's Matthew "Hue" Henry chiming in:

 

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=18916.msg780088#msg780088

 

Given "dr" Smart's many conflicting and defamatory statements I hope he's sued for every penny he has. No wonder the MMO industry puts out such shoddy products given the "drama" we see. How many other industries see stuff like the Alganon and Vanguard drama?

  Slineer

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4/07/10 7:27:23 PM#14

Its a sad day in the MMO industry when the drama surrounding a game is more entertaining (imo) and more news worthy than the game itself.  This just might turn out to be the funnest game I'll never play.

  Sain34

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Why not?

4/07/10 7:30:57 PM#15

David Allen destroys another game....

  ZombieKen

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4/07/10 7:32:30 PM#16

Cool information.  @OP thanks for the post.

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  tsukts

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4/07/10 8:02:22 PM#17

the drama between these 2 belongs in kindergardern haha.

  PhelimReagh

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4/07/10 8:08:04 PM#18
  Amathe

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4/07/10 8:21:19 PM#19

mmorpg.com gets mentioned in the lawsuit (as a republisher of the press releases and such). Nothing about me though. How could they overlook my pithy comments on the issues?

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  Wighty

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4/07/10 8:25:24 PM#20
Originally posted by PhelimReagh
Originally posted by Kokomobl


And to rub it into DA face...

 

Smart goes and does this

http://www.myalganon.com/library/items/details/item_id/403345

Does this guy get less mature by the day?

 

He actually spent money (i.e., artist's time) developing this? And he questioned Allen's competence, lol.

 

EDIT: Screenie for when QOL's lawyers get them to remove it :D

 

 Actually for the record this was a relatively low lvl (kill) quest drop dating back from beta... well before the tea party drama...

 

/damn now I admited to playing it...

 

What are your other Hobbies?

Gaming is Dirt Cheap compared to this...

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