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General Discussion  » So is there still no drug dealing or prostitution, AKA crime for criminals to do?

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  Glavian

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3/22/10 2:04:05 PM#121

This is kinda a strange topic. I think adding both in would be a cool thing. It would make this game totally different from other MMO's

 

As much as we hate to think about it, there are alot of people out there who cyber in MMO's and a Prostitute who was good at it could make alot of in game cash. I think it would be fun if I could pimp my wife out in the game.

 

But it's one of those taboo things. It is perfectly legal to have sex, but totally illegal to write about it. At the same time it's totally illegal to kill someone, but perfectly legal to write about it. It doesnt make any sense, it's just the way our society is.

  gubby

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3/26/10 7:08:12 PM#122

it being PG is good for me :D

  Kordesh

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3/26/10 7:14:09 PM#123

In other news, police relieved as crime has been reduced to simply drug deals and prostitution. Commander Johnson was quoted as saying "It's sure going to be a hell of a lot easier catching those drug dealers without all that gun crime! Those bullet proof vests were heavy!" 

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  Bannne

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3/27/10 2:56:34 AM#124

I am think their are drug running missions in APB.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3foCSWVCx1Y&feature=fvw
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm

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  TSWBETAROGS

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3/28/10 3:19:45 AM#125
Originally posted by Glavian


This is kinda a strange topic. I think adding both in would be a cool thing. It would make this game totally different from other MMO's

 

As much as we hate to think about it, there are alot of people out there who cyber in MMO's and a Prostitute who was good at it could make alot of in game cash. I think it would be fun if I could pimp my wife out in the game.

 

But it's one of those taboo things. It is perfectly legal to have sex, but totally illegal to write about it. At the same time it's totally illegal to kill someone, but perfectly legal to write about it. It doesnt make any sense, it's just the way our society is.

Nice one ;)

I like the way this game loocks, but cant realy se my self playing this for long. Seems to be to mutch of the same. Aas fare as i have seen it is just like most FPS games, just spray and pray with friends. Onely with lower Graphics than other FPS games.

Am I wrong???

  Draemos

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3/28/10 3:34:53 AM#126
Originally posted by Stakex

Yea because robbing stores, banks, and other people aren't crimes? Oh and lets not forget about shootings, car theft, assault, hit and run, and what ever else Im sure they have in the game don't count as crime either? 

Do you seriouslly need to have low-life crimes such as drug dealing and prostitution in the game? Do you honestly think thoes are the only crimes in this world? If so, you sir, have some serious issues. Not to mention this game appears to be about action oriented crime, such as bank robberies. Its kinda hard to have running shootouts with prostisutes...

 Do you really think drug dealing and prostitution are somehow worse than theft, murder, assault & battery, etc etc etc

 If anything they are the lesser crimes. 

So retarded...

  SWGmodAlpha

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3/30/10 12:56:54 PM#127
Originally posted by Stakex

Yea because robbing stores, banks, and other people aren't crimes? Oh and lets not forget about shootings, car theft, assault, hit and run, and what ever else Im sure they have in the game don't count as crime either? 

Do you seriouslly need to have low-life crimes such as drug dealing and prostitution in the game? Do you honestly think thoes are the only crimes in this world? If so, you sir, have some serious issues. Not to mention this game appears to be about action oriented crime, such as bank robberies. Its kinda hard to have running shootouts with prostisutes...

 Modern era criminals cannot make a living assaulting strangers and robbing banks.  RISK is way too high.

Real Life crime is drugs and prostitution because those are crimes that require public participation.  IE, no one is forcing anyone to drive downtown and find a hooker or buy drugs.  Joe Public decides to do that on their own.

While I understand the marketing, I think it is fail for a game that portends to be a modern cops and robbers game.

If this is the tact for the game, then it should have been set in the 1920s and 30s with Mobsters running alcohol and running speak'easies.  Then you could at least have smuggler runs from Canada to the USA.

Plus criminals could make a living during that time frame robbing banks and peeps.

Hits were put on peeps all the time for mob control and territory.

IMHO.

  VaultFairy

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3/30/10 4:00:51 PM#128

I glanced a few articles of this game a few times, but never bothered to read about it. Always thought that this was going to be a 50cent game or something.

 

I ended up staying up til about 2:30am watching Youtube video's and the podcasts. And i'm actually looking forward to this and i even applied for beta. xD

 

Anyway read a couple of pages but i think i got the grasp of the who argument going on. I see alot of people comparing it to GTA. I want to know... Erm.... why? First you compare every fantasy MMO to WoW and a new type/setting MMO that (for all i know) hasnt been done before.

I can see the pro's and con's of drug dealing and prostitution, seen a few good ideas about the two on here so far which could actually work out but we never know yet. Shouldn't we all just accept it to be something different other than orc's and blooming goblins, lets not hack at it yet. Never know these features could be added in a later date.

Drugs get imported at the docks, Criminals go to collect while Enforcers go to seize it. If the Enforcers collect it, they take it back to the Police HQ then the mission ends and the Enforcers get a nice reward. But if the Criminals get to it they have to take it to their hideout so they can distribute it among a designated "Criminal" drug dealers. Which they can accompanied by the Criminals while they distribute it to other random NPC's and gain a percentage of the drug thats sold. Enforcers are alerted to arrest or kill them, and just carry on until the designated "Criminal" drug dealer is dead, maybe like a protect mission for Criminals and a search and destroy for the Enforcers. That way the missions can be put in stages just like in the gameplay videos.

 

Either way i dont think we should compare it, as i think it deserves to be recognised for being original in the MMO scene. Just my idea and thoughts anyway xD

 

  Nekrosis1

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3/30/10 4:04:50 PM#129

The OP clearly listens to too much Hip-Hop.

  kingtommyboy

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3/30/10 4:11:07 PM#130
Originally posted by UltimateN00b


Read in the official forums a year ago about and it said no Drug Dealing and no Prostitution.  Is that still the policy of the developers, "no crime in a crime based game," or did they finally grow a spine with Jack Thompson disbarred?

no drugs in a game about crime? that's like a bar without beer :D !

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  Jyiiga

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3/31/10 7:57:36 PM#131

Don't worry the community will fix the prostitution issue. ERP anyone?

  Krashner

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4/01/10 3:10:04 AM#132
Originally posted by kingtommyboy

Originally posted by UltimateN00b


Read in the official forums a year ago about and it said no Drug Dealing and no Prostitution.  Is that still the policy of the developers, "no crime in a crime based game," or did they finally grow a spine with Jack Thompson disbarred?

no drugs in a game about crime? that's like a bar without beer :D !

Believe me....they exist....

  neorandom

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4/02/10 6:39:24 AM#133

if you want an rpg with lots of drugs pick up the witcher, all those magic potions with the strongest and even magical alcohols as their base material with tons of strange and exotic herbs dusts and extracts mixed in to make you perform at super human levels, and a building toxicity when you take too many too fast, thats some real life drug correlation in a video game right there!

  describable

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4/02/10 6:44:48 AM#134
Originally posted by neorandom

if you want an rpg with lots of drugs pick up the witcher, all those magic potions with the strongest and even magical alcohols as their base material with tons of strange and exotic herbs dusts and extracts mixed in to make you perform at super human levels, and a building toxicity when you take too many too fast, thats some real life drug correlation in a video game right there!

 fantastic game too, the devs of that game even released the deluxe version for free to everyone now....

you can't argue with that... (nice novels too).

 

But yeah ...  can't remember playing Cops & Robbers as a kid determined to have prostitutes and drugs an intergal part of the game.

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  JKnight1

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It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

4/02/10 7:01:56 AM#135

Yes, it may make sense in a game about crime, yes it may be realistic. But you have to realize a few things. Marketing will become more challenging, getting the desired rating will be harder, and, the biggets point SO many have missed: International Release. MANY European, Asian, and Oceanic countries outright bar such content, like Australia, Germany, and many Middle-Eastern countries.

And those areas generally tend to have a HUGE portion of the world's gamers. Add in that content, they can say goodbuy to their dollars. Gotta realize, yeah, they wanna make a game for people to enjoy, but they also wanna make money. The Game Industry is exactly that, providing goods and entertainment for profit. Can't profit if you cut out 1/4th of the planet by including 2 rather unneeded features.

You got these crimes to commit:

Robbery

Breaking-and-Entering

Mugging

Assault

Grand Theft Auto

Hit-and-Run

Defacing Public Property (Tagging)

Public Destruction

Kidnapping

And probably a few others i'm missing. That's MORE than plenty for a game about Cops and Robbers. The CLASSIC childhood game we all played with our friends outside as a kid. We didn't act like druglords and pimps. We acted like armed thieves and robbers. And APB gives us this chance to act like that.

So, again, to reiterate. Sure Drugs and Prostitution would make sense, but it's entirely unnecessary from a gameplay standpoint, and a hinderance in a business standpoint.

Want drugs and prostitution? Play GTA Multiplayer, figuring that the majority of you complaining about the lack therof feel APB is just a glorified GTA Multiplayer Mode.

  TSWBETAROGS

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4/03/10 11:53:28 AM#136
Originally posted by JKnight1


Yes, it may make sense in a game about crime, yes it may be realistic. But you have to realize a few things. Marketing will become more challenging, getting the desired rating will be harder, and, the biggets point SO many have missed: International Release. MANY European, Asian, and Oceanic countries outright bar such content, like Australia, Germany, and many Middle-Eastern countries.

And those areas generally tend to have a HUGE portion of the world's gamers. Add in that content, they can say goodbuy to their dollars. Gotta realize, yeah, they wanna make a game for people to enjoy, but they also wanna make money. The Game Industry is exactly that, providing goods and entertainment for profit. Can't profit if you cut out 1/4th of the planet by including 2 rather unneeded features.

You got these crimes to commit:

Robbery

Breaking-and-Entering

Mugging

Assault

Grand Theft Auto

Hit-and-Run

Defacing Public Property (Tagging)

Public Destruction

Kidnapping

And probably a few others i'm missing. That's MORE than plenty for a game about Cops and Robbers. The CLASSIC childhood game we all played with our friends outside as a kid. We didn't act like druglords and pimps. We acted like armed thieves and robbers. And APB gives us this chance to act like that.

So, again, to reiterate. Sure Drugs and Prostitution would make sense, but it's entirely unnecessary from a gameplay standpoint, and a hinderance in a business standpoint.

Want drugs and prostitution? Play GTA Multiplayer, figuring that the majority of you complaining about the lack therof feel APB is just a glorified GTA Multiplayer Mode.

What can you do as a cop. I realy hope thay make patches and expantion where you can be SWAT with flash bags mirrors and stuff ;).

This game looks good, just hope peopl will go off there wow wagon and try other MMOs. Alot good once comming out in 2010 and 2011.

  Bannne

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4/05/10 7:43:50 AM#137
Originally posted by Nekrosis1


The OP clearly listens to too much Hip-Hop.

And you clearly don't know what you are talking about. Drugs have been sold and taken long before hip hop came about,many Artists talk about drugs in their songs.

Oh and just to let you know,there our drug running missins in APB.

Furious Fighters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3foCSWVCx1Y&feature=fvw
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/13trindx.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uhZNKHEALY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNbbY9si-6o

  june32nd

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Ever genre of game is buy to play, why aren't MMORPGs?

4/05/10 7:52:54 AM#138
Originally posted by Stakex


Yea because robbing stores, banks, and other people aren't crimes? Oh and lets not forget about shootings, car theft, assault, hit and run, and what ever else Im sure they have in the game don't count as crime either? 

Do you seriouslly need to have low-life crimes such as drug dealing and prostitution in the game?
Do you honestly think thoes are the only crimes in this world? If so, you sir, have some serious issues. Not to mention this game appears to be about action oriented crime, such as bank robberies. Its kinda hard to have running shootouts with prostisutes...

EXCUSE ME?!

 

it's low life crime to sell drugs and prostituation but in no way shape or form is robbing stores, who could be mom and pop shops and other people are low life crimes? secondly I know a lot of drug dealers who aren't low lifes. I've known my dealers and their my friends since high school (4 yrs ago) .. I even have new dealers at my college. drug dealing is a low life activitiy, there is mad money involved they are not low lives there a bussiness men making monkey. not everyone goes to some back ally for drugs,abortions, and selling organs. Low lifes are people who sell drugs than beat you for the rest of your money and take back the drugs. or kill pregnant women, or people who rob a house owned by a man in a wheel chair.

you can't call a drug dealer a low life there are just trying to making money, it's a lucritive business.

 

you really know nothing about prostisutes if you think there are shootouts. Do you understand how prostisution works? the pimp isn't even there he drops the girls off and comes back later for the cash and for slapping. never once do one pimp fight another pimp unless they are face to face and someone disrespects the other, than the only ones getting shot at are the pimps, there no kill the women because they are products and the winning can use them for his own gain..

 

you ignorant.

  june32nd

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Ever genre of game is buy to play, why aren't MMORPGs?

4/05/10 7:58:44 AM#139
Originally posted by Hardtuner


wow you actully want to deal drugs and have prostitues in a game wow thats sad lol... isent stealing cars, breakign into places robbing people shotting up other gangs, cops good enuff?

 

im sorry lets take that out and JUST have drugs and hoes...

 

some people lol

either you can do it all and you don't do any of it. that's how people are feeling. I'd love to sell drugs in the real world. Make mad money and sit back and do nothing but smoke weed all day knowing i can easily just wait for my phone to ring and cha ching 20-50 bucks.. I like how all these people are so against both drug dealing and prostitues it's funny like they hold themselves higher than the rest of the world who can't make it so they find there own way to make it in the world today.

 

I really think it's because these types of people who feel so strongly again'st drug dealing and prostitues are mad because they never had the balls to think oh shit. I could easily make 20-50 a sale on drugs. Not saying prostitues is a money making that's just fucked up for human beings but it provides a huge source of income. I know plenty of people from highschool and now in college who are selling drugs because it's a good way to make a lot a quick money. Your only mad because you never had the means or the nerve to do such a thing and have to continue on the rat race instead of sitting back enjoying life. that's the real crime, not enjoying life

  AkumaDaimyo

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4/05/10 7:59:31 AM#140

I want to be the grammar nazi police and shoot people dead who talk like "You ignant foolio! I be so jive talking like dis!" That would make for a funny enforcer.

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