Originally posted by TheMonksMom

oh, I'm completed overwhelmed and grateful for the many many thoughtful responses!! What a great community.

I'm going to do my best to look at all these games, even the ones with boobs ;-)    The kid loves boobs. 

um....nice parenting? you let your 4 year old look at boobs? i can't wait to see how this kid turns out. i feel sorry for him....

i would suggest free realms, but that might not have enough boobs for him. you two could just go to a strip club?

i'm seriously hoping that comment was a joke.

 Ragnarok Online :P

[quote]um....nice parenting? you let your 4 year old look at boobs? i can't wait to see how this kid turns out. i feel sorry for him....

i would suggest free realms, but that might not have enough boobs for him. you two could just go to a strip club?

i'm seriously hoping that comment was a joke.[/quote]

Who are you to judge people ? Do you even have a kid ? Kids start looking at boobs when they are born... hence the breastfeeding. 

WOW is full of 4 year olds, give that a try. You can be max level with your young one in no time.

Originally posted by quickman007

Originally posted by TheMonksMom

oh, I'm completed overwhelmed and grateful for the many many thoughtful responses!! What a great community.

I'm going to do my best to look at all these games, even the ones with boobs ;-)    The kid loves boobs. 

um....nice parenting? you let your 4 year old look at boobs? i can't wait to see how this kid turns out. i feel sorry for him....

i would suggest free realms, but that might not have enough boobs for him. you two could just go to a strip club?

i'm seriously hoping that comment was a joke.

Im seriously hoping your whole post was a joke the kid was probably face first in a set of them 2-3 years ago of course hes going to love them or what do you suggest she do put blinders on him and cover his eyes everytime a woman esp a nicely endowed one is in sight? you act like she is letting him watch porn I think you should lay off the judgemental side a bit

Originally posted by TheMonksMom

Hi everyone,

I came here to research a new game for my son (aka The Monk, age 4) and myself (aka The Mom, age 41) to play together.  I'm reading and researching and overwhelmed, so I thought I'd ask you for suggestions.  We currently are big fans of Wizard 101 but at level 40 or so, we are getting kind of bored and are looking for something new to play.

Things we are looking for in a game:

1)  Something which does not require a ton of reading to play.  While we do play together, and I read for him, and he can read some himself, he doesn't enjoy a game that requires me to read a ton.  We were trying out Dragonica tonight and it was just too much reading of teeny tiny print for me to make dinner while he played.

2)  Fighting.  The Monk wants to fight.  He is his fathers son

3)  Questing.  The Mom wants to quest.

4)  Something we can play casually but still have fun.  He's four, he's not allowed to play that much and Im a mom and don't have a ton of time to play without him.

5)  Something where we can do solo play most of the time.  I'm happy to jump in and help people with quests etc, but we aren't in a position to commit to being a part of a group that meets every night from 7-9.   So, especially in the early levels, we need to be able to play by ourselves or with some really loose associations wtih people who just happen to be online at the same time we are.  We do enjoy that other players are real people and do often help other players in wizard 101 but often buy henchmen instead of waiting around to find someone to help us do a quest that really needs assistance.

6)  The monk likes the following things so any of them would be great:  wizards, magic,the undead,  knights, monsters/creatures, pets/animals, space, aliens, robots (he's my geek in training).    

7)  The monk is abnormally unafraid of scary monsters.  Monsters are no problem.

8) .  We'd like to be able to customize our character a little. Guilds, races, variety of people/creatures might be something the Monk would like.

9)  A good story.  We often "play" Wizard 101 in the car on the way to school, where we are characters in that world. I'd like a game where we can take enough away from it that its something we can pretend later.

10)  We are happy to pay for the right game.

Things we do NOT care about: PVP (never done it), Graphics (3d would be nice, but other than that..) , kid controls (I'm right there, he's safe, and heck, he can't read those kind of words anyway)

I'm currently considering Bright Shadows, Everquest (played that before he was born), Guild Wars, Dungeons and Dragons Online but your suggestions are VERY welcome!!

 

Thanks so much for reading and for your help!!

 

If you cant play Dragonica together (whitch i think was just a button mashing side scrolling mmo) i dont know what. Just skip the text lol.

Stop calling your son The Monk its weird.

Originally posted by Aysono

Seriously I don't think MMO are for four year old little kids. There is always violence even in games like Hello Kitty. Your kids will always see and hear things not merely suitable for their ages.

Four years olds should not be taught to kill/attack NPC. Mining, fishing etc are good if they can be presented in an educational way. To protect little kids from improper gestures from other players, games should try something like Quick Chat system in Runescape. But If I had my own four year old kids I wouldn't teach them to kill cows for their hides and chickens for their feathers.

you tell em I'm sure that is how dahmer,bundy and gacy started out by simulating killing cows for their hides and chickens for their feathers in an mmo

Originally posted by quickman007

Originally posted by TheMonksMom

oh, I'm completed overwhelmed and grateful for the many many thoughtful responses!! What a great community.

I'm going to do my best to look at all these games, even the ones with boobs ;-)    The kid loves boobs. 

um....nice parenting? you let your 4 year old look at boobs? i can't wait to see how this kid turns out. i feel sorry for him....

i would suggest free realms, but that might not have enough boobs for him. you two could just go to a strip club?

i'm seriously hoping that comment was a joke.

Yeah, I don't even know how the human race survived all these hundreds of thousands of years with every human baby being exposed to those dangerous, poisonous boobs for so many months after being born.  I shudder to think that even I was forced to drink from such a foul source of supposed "nourishment" during my early childhood.

Now that we have artificial means of nursing babies (via baby bottles) I think every woman should have them surgically removed the moment they start growing during puberty, that way none of us have to ever see them again.  I can't imagine what must go through a woman's mind every day when she showers and has to look down at that tremendous source of shame and embarrassment.  I'm continually surprised at how many women are able to muster up the courage to step outside their house.  I now see why women in the Middle East go to such trouble to hide their entire bodies when they go out in public.

Originally posted by KualaBD

Originally posted by quickman007

Originally posted by TheMonksMom

oh, I'm completed overwhelmed and grateful for the many many thoughtful responses!! What a great community.

I'm going to do my best to look at all these games, even the ones with boobs ;-)    The kid loves boobs. 

um....nice parenting? you let your 4 year old look at boobs? i can't wait to see how this kid turns out. i feel sorry for him....

i would suggest free realms, but that might not have enough boobs for him. you two could just go to a strip club?

i'm seriously hoping that comment was a joke.

Yeah, I don't even know how the human race survived all these hundreds of thousands of years with every human baby being exposed to those dangerous, poisonous boobs for so many months after being born.  I shudder to think that even I was forced to drink from such a foul source of supposed "nourishment" during my early childhood.

Now that we have artificial means of nursing babies (via baby bottles) I think every woman should have them surgically removed the moment they start growing during puberty, that way none of us have to ever see them again.  I can't imagine what must go through a woman's mind every day when she showers and has to look down at that tremendous source of shame and embarrassment.  I'm continually surprised at how many women are able to muster up the courage to step outside their house.  I now see why women in the Middle East go to such trouble to hide their entire bodies when they go out in public.

You sir are full of win.

wow

Originally posted by alucard3000

Originally posted by Aysono

Seriously I don't think MMO are for four year old little kids. There is always violence even in games like Hello Kitty. Your kids will always see and hear things not merely suitable for their ages.

Four years olds should not be taught to kill/attack NPC. Mining, fishing etc are good if they can be presented in an educational way. To protect little kids from improper gestures from other players, games should try something like Quick Chat system in Runescape. But If I had my own four year old kids I wouldn't teach them to kill cows for their hides and chickens for their feathers.

you tell em I'm sure that is how dahmer,bundy and gacy started out by simulating killing cows for their hides and chickens for their feathers in an mmo

I hope you are trying to be funny(and failed) because that is one of the biggest misconceptions about video games and serial killers because not a single recorded serial killer or even the sniper killers ever touched a video game before they went nuts, that is a fact. There is only one pair of nutcases that ever played a video game and that was the two teens at the columbine shooting and even then it's been said they were more motivated by the matrix movie than the games they were known to play. 

Anyhow, this thread has gone downhill quick. She asked a simple request without comments from the peanut gallery about who they think are good parents or not. Those posters need to get a grip and get over listening to themselves talk. 

WoW is not a good community anymore so I would not suggest it for family fun entertainment due to the high amount of griefing and flaming in any chat channel there on nearly any server that I have seen before I stopped playing WoW after 2 1/2 yrs. I would not suggest EQ2 either due to the same reasons and the low populated servers being full of mostly elitist jerks who spend their time bragging about their status or how long they have been in EQ and if you don't worship them you get blacklisted for quest groups, sad I know.

I would suggest these mmo's personally;

1) Lord of the Rings Online - Great community and more mature than most due to a lot of families playing it. There is some reading involved for game story background information but not heavy reading for quest instructions. 

2) Bright Shadow - Due to great family friendly and fun content. Somewhat simplified and cartoonish so might get bored of it quickly like Wizard 101 but a good time burner.

3) Guild wars -  Instanced quests allows for less griefing and casual gameplay content is great for families who always have random things pop up and need to go afk. Great graphics and good solo content if needed.

Overall, I hope she was able to get some good ideas out of the thread despite the uncalled for flaming by some of the posters.

Originally posted by johnmatthais

Originally posted by Aysono

 

But If I had my own four year old kids I wouldn't teach them to kill cows for their hides and chickens for their feathers.

Hey, if that's how they wanna learn to cook, I have no complaints.

Not only are cows and chickens useful for cooking, hides and feathers can be used to teach crafting, fletching, fishing among other things too. It can be educational to teach kids who can tell what are real and fiction. It is hard to tell four year old kids Barney and Santa Claus are not real, let alone killing peaceful animals can be good deeds. It is a different story when you explain why you want to kill cows and chickens to seven year old kids. That’s why different rating systems such as MPAA and ESRB are established to aid consumers in selecting movies and digital games and such.

Among tens of thousands games and educational software rated by ESRB, none of the online games are rated EC (suitable for kids aged 2-10). The next rating category for older kids is E (mostly suitable kids aged 6+) and you won’t find many online games other than the social ones like Club Penguin in that category. Most of the MMO are rated E10 (10+) or T (teens).

There are no EC rated MMO according to ESRB. It is not just my own opinion.

Of course, ESRB and MPAA help you to make your selection of movies and games but you don’t have to follow them. If you think killing and violence are ok for four year olds then Runescape is one game that does it differently to ensure kids aren’t exposed to things that are not suitable for them with their Quick Chat worlds. Four year old kids mostly can’t even type. Letting them to select what to say from a preset selection of sentences is an excellent unique feature.

Other MMO that can be good for four year old kids if you accept mild violence are mainly social games designed mainly for children. You can pretty much trust brand name products from Disney so Club Penguin should be OK.
 

These are the one's I let my 9yo grandson play when he comes over

Guild Wars- Because you can always buddy up or go your seperate ways. Monsters to kill-Missions to run... It's not real hard in the beginning but it's tons of fun. There's also a "Monk" character.   http://www.guildwars.com/

Free Realms- Looks good, y'all can putz around together, has a Disney feel and look. Pretty easy, lot's to keep y'all busy   www.freerealms.com/

Roblox- My grandson loves playing this game. A come and go game. Lot's of scenario's. Not my cup of tea but he loves it.   www.roblox.com/Default.aspx

Runescape has some new child protection thing. There's Flyff also....

Be careful Pedobear is lurking these forums. He can trace your ip.

Originally posted by quickman007

Originally posted by TheMonksMom

oh, I'm completed overwhelmed and grateful for the many many thoughtful responses!! What a great community.

I'm going to do my best to look at all these games, even the ones with boobs ;-)    The kid loves boobs. 

um....nice parenting? you let your 4 year old look at boobs? i can't wait to see how this kid turns out. i feel sorry for him....

i would suggest free realms, but that might not have enough boobs for him. you two could just go to a strip club?

i'm seriously hoping that comment was a joke.

Apparently you haven't had a baby recently.  They like boobs these days because its all they are allowed to eat for the better part of the year.

I'm also certainly not in favor of sexualizing body parts for four year olds.  Plenty of time for that later.  As far as he knows, boobs are just like arms or stomachs.  Except that they used to have milk in them.