If you want intermediate goals, a good strategy is to break it down into steps.

Firstly you need to be self sufficient, so you need a way to make money. The easiest way for new players to get cash and experience in combat is to run missions, missions come from agents and they are ranked into levels.

Level 1 missions can be done by a new character in a combat frigate (rifter, kestral / merlin, punisher, tristan).

Level 2 missions can be done by a week old character in a cruiser (omen, caracal, rupture or thorax).

Level 3 missions are aimed at battlecruisers (hurricane, drake, harbinger or myrmadon).

Level 4 missions are battleship missions (raven, dominix, abbaddon, maelstrom).

Or you can do for an industrial route, building or trading both give good money.

My suggestion would be to get a little cash together by doing level 2 missions, and then go buy a dozen frigates and go lose them in pvp. The earlier you get into the pvp side of eve the better.

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Originally posted by Xennith
If you want intermediate goals, a good strategy is to break it down into steps.
 
Firstly you need to be self sufficient, so you need a way to make money. The easiest way for new players to get cash and experience in combat is to run missions, missions come from agents and they are ranked into levels.
Level 1 missions can be done by a new character in a combat frigate (rifter, kestral / merlin, punisher, tristan).
Level 2 missions can be done by a week old character in a cruiser (omen, caracal, rupture or thorax).
Level 3 missions are aimed at battlecruisers (hurricane, drake, harbinger or myrmadon).
Level 4 missions are battleship missions (raven, dominix, abbaddon, maelstrom).
 
Or you can do for an industrial route, building or trading both give good money.
 
My suggestion would be to get a little cash together by doing level 2 missions, and then go buy a dozen frigates and go lose them in pvp. The earlier you get into the pvp side of eve the better.

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I do not think this is good way to start the game.

Running missions force you into certain type of SP ditribution which is not desirable in many cases.

Missions are the most accessable cash making route for new players, nearly every player does that and then moves on to other areas, im not advocating a migration to motsu, but a way to get a toehold onto the eve totem pole.

My suggestion would be to get a little cash together by doing level 2 missions, and then go buy a dozen frigates and go lose them in pvp. The earlier you get into the pvp side of eve the better.

All good advice from Xennith, especially that last line about the 'dozen frigates'.  Don't forget to use a Jump Clone in that disposable frigate!

M. Fong

Originally posted by sadeyx

 His goal should be Frigate - Cruiser - Battle ships,  skill up to solo level 4 missions = self sufficient.  After that you can do anything in Eve.

I understand the Frigate - Cruiser - Battleship route.

Skill up to level 4 missions?

What minimums would you think?

Core competency up to.. standard?

Armor tanking standard?

Battleship turrets (kind based on ship race) up to basic?

Focus on some aspect of Electronic Warfare? be it warp/statis or target etc?

Drones up to... ? What kind of drones should one aim for for a battleship? combat i'm sure but scout, fighter, bomber?

His goal should not be missions if he doesn't like them. It will turn him away from the game forever.

Missions are freaking horrible.

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by Xennith
If you want intermediate goals, a good strategy is to break it down into steps.
 
Firstly you need to be self sufficient, so you need a way to make money. The easiest way for new players to get cash and experience in combat is to run missions, missions come from agents and they are ranked into levels.
Level 1 missions can be done by a new character in a combat frigate (rifter, kestral / merlin, punisher, tristan).
Level 2 missions can be done by a week old character in a cruiser (omen, caracal, rupture or thorax).
Level 3 missions are aimed at battlecruisers (hurricane, drake, harbinger or myrmadon).
Level 4 missions are battleship missions (raven, dominix, abbaddon, maelstrom).
 
Or you can do for an industrial route, building or trading both give good money.
 
My suggestion would be to get a little cash together by doing level 2 missions, and then go buy a dozen frigates and go lose them in pvp. The earlier you get into the pvp side of eve the better.

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I do not think this is good way to start the game.

Running missions force you into certain type of SP ditribution which is not desirable in many cases.

The SP distribution isn't so bad, the real problem is that doing nothing but missions tends to give people some very wrong ideas about the type of game EvE is.

Getting a level 2 agent and getting enough cash together for a bunch of rifters is not doing nothing but missions, it would probably only take a casual player a week or two to do that, especially after doing the tutorials which now kick you out wth a couple of ships and about 3 million isk.

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Originally posted by Xennith
Missions are the most accessable cash making route for new players, nearly every player does that and then moves on to other areas, im not advocating a migration to motsu, but a way to get a toehold onto the eve totem pole.

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Originally posted by Malcanis
 
The SP distribution isn't so bad, the real problem is that doing nothing but missions tends to give people some very wrong ideas about the type of game EvE is.

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I am aware that I might be a bit too much perfectionist here but my point is:

If someone asks me how to start PVP, I tell him to fous on interceptors. This is where all skilling up for BS running L4 ain't helping him much.

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Originally posted by heerobya

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Originally posted by sadeyx

 His goal should be Frigate - Cruiser - Battle ships,  skill up to solo level 4 missions = self sufficient.  After that you can do anything in Eve.

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I understand the Frigate - Cruiser - Battleship route.
Skill up to level 4 missions?
What minimums would you think?
Core competency up to.. standard?
Armor tanking standard?
Battleship turrets (kind based on ship race) up to basic?
Focus on some aspect of Electronic Warfare? be it warp/statis or target etc?
Drones up to... ? What kind of drones should one aim for for a battleship? combat i'm sure but scout, fighter, bomber?

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The fact is, you can run L4 in sentry Dominix on 2 weeks old character with astonoshing efficiency.

Originally posted by Gdemami

 

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Originally posted by Xennith
Missions are the most accessable cash making route for new players, nearly every player does that and then moves on to other areas, im not advocating a migration to motsu, but a way to get a toehold onto the eve totem pole.

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Originally posted by Malcanis
 
The SP distribution isn't so bad, the real problem is that doing nothing but missions tends to give people some very wrong ideas about the type of game EvE is.

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I am aware that I might be a bit too much perfectionist here but my point is:

If someone asks me how to start PVP, I tell him to fous on interceptors. This is where all skilling up for BS running L4 ain't helping him much.

Not everyone likes flying Interceptors. I'm no good at them myself. Now T2 Cruisers, on the other hand...