I played Eve about three years ago for less than a month.  I was not ready for that game, I was still stuck on Theme Park MMO mentality and got caught up in the "what the hell do I do in this game?".

Now that time has passed I have come to realize the power of sandbox MMOs especially how brilliantly Eve was designed.

The main Eve forum have a 72 hour waiting period after singup, but since I want to start playing today I am going to ask my question here.

I want to make a ship that can stealth, I remember that was possible a while ago so I am guessing it still is.  I want to be in space invisible basically, then unstealth right next to a pirate or victim (depending on what I get into) and use short range weaponry to take the enemy ship down.  

What ships are good for something like that?

What race?

Good luck.
Stealth isn't so much of a heavy damage dealer unless you go Force Recon cruiser. Then its situational on your targets.
Another option is the Stealth Bomber frigate. Long range those are.
 
Takes a while to get to a solo combat effective stealther though.

Stealth bombers only really work well in packs, unless your victim is particularly stupid

Stealthed and at range is alright in my book.

I was thinking that close range weaponry would be more powerful.  Maybe that is not the case?

you have a couple of choices, stealth bombers, force recons and strategic cruisers.

each race has their own of each of these ships, the bombers are all roughly identical (except the caldari one is best), the force recons are a question of taste (i prefer the caldari or amarrian ones as they are closer range) and i have no idea on the strategic cruisers, but i hear the loki is pretty dire.

Don't do it.

Scientologists and Mormons prey on Rogue ships.

Do it at your own risk.

Originally posted by nikoa

I was thinking that close range electronic warfare equipment would be more powerful.  Maybe that is not the case?

Stealth ships are generally not combat ships. They are very squishy. REALLY good support frigates for larger fleets though.

I would look at the Blackbird first. It's not a stealth ship but it will set you on the right course. Then the Falcon and the Curse. You will need to specialize your training, have some pretty big balls, and be prepared to lose some ships. But I don't think it's out of the question.

What your talking about is doable in low sec IMO but pretty skill intensive. I would think being a stealth bomber pilot for a null sec corp would be a better path personally.

I've found that uncloaking of the bow of a ship is much more fun when your in a gang, but it's allot harder to specialize for something specific and time consuming when your flying with others.

Now that I have read a bit more about Eve.

Do all ships have the ability to cloak or not?  It seems based on the comments that only certain ships can, but maybe that is just recommendations not limitations.

Originally posted by nikoa

Now that I have read a bit more about Eve.

Do all ships have the ability to cloak or not?  It seems based on the comments that only certain ships can, but maybe that is just recommendations not limitations.

 

 

All ships have the ability to cloak (im pretty sure about that).  But not every ship can use the best cloaker, and that is what you need for what you are talking about.  The top cloaker, cov ops i believe it's called, takes a large amount of cpu and only certain ships have a bonus that lowers the cloakers cpu usage by like 95%.

Originally posted by Bagguns

Originally posted by nikoa

Now that I have read a bit more about Eve.

Do all ships have the ability to cloak or not?  It seems based on the comments that only certain ships can, but maybe that is just recommendations not limitations.

 

 

 

All ships have the ability to cloak (im pretty sure about that).  But not every ship can use the best cloaker, and that is what you need for what you are talking about.  The top cloaker, cov ops i believe it's called, takes a large amount of cpu and only certain ships have a bonus that lowers the cloakers cpu usage by like 95%.

It's also what allows a ship to jump cloaked.

If you can't jump cloaked, then there really isn't a much of a reason to cloak. There are a few, but not good enough to carry one on a combat ship.

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Originally posted by TheHatter
It's also what allows a ship to jump cloaked.

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No it doesn't. Everyone has to uncloak to jump.
The covop cloak allows for unrestricted warping and movement inside of a system. Normal cloaks make a ship nigh useless in combat, the covop cloak doesn't.

There are corps who specialise in the type of fighting you're thinking of. No need to fly solo in this kind of ship.

Originally posted by batolemaeus

 

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Originally posted by TheHatter
It's also what allows a ship to jump cloaked.

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No it doesn't. Everyone has to uncloak to jump.
The covop cloak allows for unrestricted warping and movement inside of a system. Normal cloaks make a ship nigh useless in combat, the covop cloak doesn't.

w/e that's what I meant.

Warp Cloaked.

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EVE isn't the only space game I've played in my life.

For close combat cloaking ships you have two choices:

The Recon ship  - Amarr Pilgrim - This ship can warp cloaked so is totally invisible in a system.

There is a slight delay from decloaking before you can attack(lock), but the surprise factor will allow you to claim some victims, as they will not warp away in time before you lock them .

Traditonally force recon ships have no firepower, however it can use its drones to good effect in taking out your victim, it has bonus to Drones and also Neuts and Vampires

Amarr Cruiser Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to Tracking Disruptor effectiveness and 10% bonus to drone hit points and damage per level. Recon Ships Skill Bonus: 20% bonus to Energy Vampire and Energy Neutralizer transfer amount

This is a tech 2 ship and is the cheapest option.

The next option is a Strategic cruiser, any of these can be used as a force recon with the correct subsystems. These can fit turrets as well as a Covert cloak. And have insane resists making them hard to kill.

These are tech 3 however and cost about 500mil (complete with all subsystems)the last time i checked.

Either way if you are just starting out it will take time to get to these ships...............

You have to watch your skills if you want a stealth ship.  Prepare to be waiting as you skill up in the appropriate skills.  I wouldn't want to outfit a noob firgate as a stealth ship.  Skill up in the appropriate skills and go for a covert op frigate.

Originally posted by Malcanis

There are corps who specialise in the type of fighting you're thinking of. No need to fly solo in this kind of ship.

Really?   Have any names?

Originally posted by Ravenmane

You have to watch your skills if you want a stealth ship.  Prepare to be waiting as you skill up in the appropriate skills.  I wouldn't want to outfit a noob firgate as a stealth ship.  Skill up in the appropriate skills and go for a covert op frigate.

I agree, it will take some time.  Which I have ;)

So should I go Amarr then for the Pilgrim?

I realize I can cross train but is that easy?

Im cross trained into all races, but my character is about 3 years old. If you cross trained straight from the start, youd need to invest perhaps an extra 2 days of training. Race doesnt affect the speed you learn skills.