If you're paying a monthly fee, you shouldn't be nickel and dimed for features that should be included in a Star Trek game. I play STO and enjoy it, but I refuse to pay to create a Federation Klingon or a Ferengi. You want to put sunglasses or costumes in a store that's fine, but not major races from the lore that should be included from the start.

Disclaimer: Purchased the basic box and paying $15 for a sub. Played about 8-10 hours so far. Have no intention to purchase "cosmetic" content from the in-game store.

Mirco-transactions mean options. As long as you do not need the game store items to play the game, it is not double-dipping. You, as the consumer, have a choice to invest in the additional content. If you don't, it's no different than playing a game without purchasing the latest paid expansion. As a casual gamer, I would actually prefer to pay just for what I want out of the game than pay the cost of a boxed expansion that includes content in which I have no interest.

Other things I'm okay with in the store are: extra character slots, additional sections of space, a special chain quest that centered on a favorite aspect of the IP (an epic campaign against the Borg, getting stuck on the holodeck, etc.). Maybe I don't mind paying for these things because an extra $5 doesn't seem like such a big financial dent.

I've been playing STO since its public launch and actually enjoy the instanced content. For all the individuals griping that it's not a true MMO, I recognize that it's different. It's in space. There are no elves. But, I do find myself playing with other players probably every other instanced system. I actually built up a rather nice community of reliable friends to trek with in the first two days, something that did not happen in WoW or EvE.

The thing I love most about this situation is that you all can do something about it. Don't buy or play the game if you don't like it.

Originally posted by kartool

 If you're paying a monthly fee, you shouldn't be nickel and dimed for features that should be included in a Star Trek game. I play STO and enjoy it, but I refuse to pay to create a Federation Klingon or a Ferengi. You want to put sunglasses or costumes in a store that's fine, but not major races from the lore that should be included from the start.

And why not? And who said they should be included with the game? Is that what you are used and expect to happen here to perhaps?

I lost interest in STO in closed beta because it looked and played too much like Champions Online in Space (CO is a good game, don't get me wrong -- it's just not for me).

The eStore is fine, IMO.  A perfect way for Cryptic to make money off the Want-It-Now Generation.  Besides it's optional "looks" for sale, everything there is available in game rather easily.

I predict STO will do just fine, especially with Trekkies, though.

Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by bigdaddysfe

I feel bad for the people who bought Lifetime Subscriptions and are going to get nickle-and-dimed to death from the add-ons that should be free.

 

I don't. Not one tiny bit. Not after all the warnings we gave them.

I hate that Cryptic is going to make money from them, though.

Yes, you and I and a few others even got blasted in our efforts to try to warn others. It's unfortunate, but some of us have the foresight to see these things coming while others have blinders on.
 

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Originally posted by MrcdesOwnr
Yes, you and I and a few others even got blasted in our efforts to try to warn others. It's unfortunate, but some of us have the foresight to see these things coming while others have blinders on.
 

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We are the Fanbois. Put on your blinders and surrender your whines. We will add your niche and gaming distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.

Originally posted by jiveturkey12

Originally posted by Deewe

Originally posted by jiveturkey12

 

Yea but does Starbucks charge you for napkins? Or a drink of tap water? No they dont, because thats stupid!

They do, it's included in the price of your coffee even if you don't use them...

Why in gods name would cryptic charge you for game code thats already in the game and just not activated? People please dont give this company your money, if you cant see what funding these animals is doing to the gaming world you need to wake up.

As much as any (insert MMO name here) has collector's edition, vet rewards or RMT features.

 

How the hell do you manage to compare, paying extra money for already exsisting game code, to buying a collectors edition of a game?

Im in no way saying developers dont make money off collectors editions, but its not shady. You know what your getting when you spend the extra money on the collectors edition and most 95% of cases, it contains a physical object that is limited, not an in game item (They do have them, but thats not what the bulk of the money is going towards). 

Plus Vet Rewards? What are you talking about? Thats a small incentive to play the game longer, most of the time they are nothing more than a painting or a shield, not a full race or class.

Seriously am I missing something here?

For those of you that are just not getting it! Please read the above highlighted text. Now, read it again. Finally, let it sink in for a moment.

This is what separates the honest from the shady. Knowing up front, what you are getting for your money rather than being surprised, after the fact. This means everything to me! I have no problem whatsoever, if a company wants to make a buck, as long as they are transparent beforehand.

It's Cryptic's business practices that are the real issue here.

 

Originally posted by r3zs1ckn3ss

 

Free loaders? We're still playing money to pay. And who cares what it breaks down to daily. Even in a month's time $15 could be gas or groceries. Some of us are just barely making ends meet in the meantime so every bit of $ counts. And those programmers make a hell of a lot more than I do. Try being unemployed since March of 2009 and getting side work here and there to stay afloat. A lot of people may hate WoW, but for me I can manage to swing $15 a month and I still get to have content added via patches without paying anything extra. And at most I only have to worry about an expansion once a year. If STO works out, then great for them. I wish them luck. But I really don't want to have to pay more for extras unless it's an expansion.

Yeah man so even when we are unemployed we can afford to play an mmo. What kind of quality you think that gets us?

Nothing in this world is free we get what we pay for. And if we pay a little then we get low quality. If we pay more we get better quality simple.

Originally posted by Airwren

Considering Cryptic's absolute failure at launching Champions Online and their launch day "debacle" with that game you'd think the folks running the show would have figured out how this was going to go over.  Sadly, some day we're going to be remembering when Cryptic developed MMO's because they're going to run themselves out of business if they keep *ucking this stuff up.  I really don't care about this that much but I personally think this is just a precursor to them "announcing" that respecs of your skill points will only be offered via C-Store purchase.  If they aren't planning on doing this then there is absolutely no excuse for not having respecs in the game already.  The engine for STO and a great deal of the game is just ripped off from CO and they had a functional respec system in CO at launch.  It isn't like it should be hard for them to code and implement that system now, unless oh wait they are going to get as many initial orders on the game as they can, make as much money up front as they can, and then drop this little gem after the initial free 30 days have ended. 

 

P.S.  Can the MMORPG staff please sticky this post so that I can reference it when I'm right?   thanks =P

Haha sticky that, yeah disappointed, not really surprised so many companies screwing over their loyal clients, Infinity Ward with no dedicated servers, STO with this crap, and I wait in anticipation to see how blizzard with screw over yet another group of gamers with starcraft 2

Originally posted by Distiler

There was a time when the montly fee included everything. CCP includes also expansions.

I also recognize the monthly fee has not increased with inflation in the last decade, that is also true, but Star Trek Online is not an mmo and it doesen't require even a fraction of tecnology a  real mmo like EvE needs.

Cryptic is not gonna gain playerbase trust with this kind of greedy policy and the game will suffer.

 

QFT

If the game was f2p, then sure doing something like this is fine.  Some of the diehard trekkies were annoyed how Cryptic butchered the lore.  Now, they are annoying those gamers that were "on the fence" on whether they were going to buy STO or not. 

Strange, Cryptic did so well with CoH but since they struck on on their own they fumbled both Champions Online and now Star Trek Online.  Maybe those people that stayed with NCSoft were the developers that knew what they were doing?

After I Beta tested on CO I knew this game would suck as well. cryptics name is in the dirt lower than NCSOFT --for now  lol. Sorry for all teh suckers that paid for this game but I sincerely hope you find fun in the game somehow. I also am a sucker for I purchases AION and totally felt  ripped off  but  I did learn not to jump the gun and pre order anymore because it just isn't smart nowadays. Beta test FTW !! That's All!

To all the STO buyers: "They say jump, you say "how high?"