Originally posted by Rockgod99

The players that enjoy solo pvp don't do it for isk per hour.

Obviously i you wanted to maximize your isk you wouldn't solo pvp.

For me it's always been about the killboard and getting out of situations that should have gotten me killed and podded.

Never about isk or loot.

 

Yeah Im a bit of a loot whore and thats gotten me into some bad spots now and then... When I just gotta salvage that last wreck or scoop that last drone. Chances are someone else will show up and then you have another fight on your hands.. Doesnt have to be all bad though.. Sometimes that just means more kills without the hassle of tracking them down. If nothing else its more excitement and thats mostly what we came for.

I do prefer my PvP to be self sustainable though, even better when its profittable. And thats why I often fly with a wingman and have a salvager fitted.

So I guess I almost completly agree with you, except I like loot and profit more than I like killboards.

Most people talk here about the PvP solo angle. Truth is that there is much more to EvE thatn that, and yes you can do all the trade , hauling and industry stuff solo as well.

That said, it is EvE on hard mode to do so.

Originally posted by hfztt

Most people talk here about the PvP solo angle. Truth is that there is much more to EvE thatn that, and yes you can do all the trade , hauling and industry stuff solo as well.

That said, it is EvE on hard mode to do so.

This is a very good point.  EvE is about what you want it to be about.  For me, EvE is about my Battleclinic rank, so I play in a manner that optimizes it - lots of solo pvp, lots of high-risk engagements (that usually result in a net point gain even if I lose my ship), sticking to small cheap stuff when possible (since Battleclinic algorithm is based on the difference in ship class, so a 1v1 frig fight is worth as much as a 1v1 battleship fight), C3 wormholes when they're available since they refill my wallet fast so I'm not out of action long.

But that's not the only way to play.  Lots of people are traders.  Lots of people are explorers, missioners, plexers, etc.  Some people like the big nullsec fleet fights, others like to grief (for lack of a better term).  Even my fellow killboard whores, the griefwatch-type boards use a different algorithm that encourages a totally different style of pvp since it does award points based on ship class (and not the relative difference) and doesn't penalize fleeting up nearly as much.  You're really limited only by your imagination and the game mechanics.

Lots of uninformed people posting here. Simply ignore them.

1. You can be a loner but you cant be without a corp. The choice is wether your in a npc corp, your own corp, or someone else corp. Obviously if you make your own corp you can be alone in it.

2. You can experience almost the entirety of eve, you may not do everything the same way as someone with a corpfull of buddys would but its still there. The things you wont experience are those that are utterly uninteresting for a loner anyway, i.e. titans, outposts building, fleet battles.

3. Its actually easier than being in a corp if your knowledgeable, cause you dont have to worry about someone else screwing up. If you fly the right ships you wont need a scout, if you research alot yourself you wont need a mentor, if you dont want to play rambo-the-one-man-army-goes-spaceships you wont need firesupport/protection from other players cause your not going to get into a fight with them anyway(unconsentual pvp is hard in eve if the 'victim' puts some effort and brains into it).

You didnt say you want to pvp, you want trade, hauling maybe production or research(plan ahead, cant train trade skills forever). Read up on covert ops cloaked ships, there are a hauler type and several frig and cruiser types fitting them. There are also ships that can do sites in lowsec/0.0 that are unscanable, do with them the sites/missions that also cant be scanned and again your safe.

In other words, you would need to be incompetent to the n-th degree to get caught in a proper cloaker in lowsec, and why wouldnt you fly a proper cloaker when doing nonpvp stuff in lowsec? And even 0.0 is easy enough to fly around in, stick to space with npc stations and you can even do your trading there.

P.S.: And with faction warfare you could even experience PVP in your one man corp, maybe you wouldnt go into the fights alone, but you would still be your own boss. Bit like han working for the rebels.

Sure you can solo in EVE...all it requires is a scout alt, hauler alt, CS alt and e-war alt.

wow these replies got me jacked up now.  I can't wait to dive into this.  As I said before, I've been through the tutorials, and 3 profession arcs and have joined Eve-University to learn the 'player knowledge' side of things.  But the thrill of mining or hauling alone..looking out for pirates, etc.  That excites me.  Trying to get away from people wanting to blow me into a blilion pieces..thats a rush (provided I get away).  I guess thats why I like being the loner and why I think I'd prefer haul-trading as opposed to station-trading.

Plus,  it takes the excitement away for me if I got escorts.  I love the Han Solo character and always have..dealing in quick money, staying on the move.  EVE seems like it provides that. 

Cloaking is something I never considered and will definitely research that. 

p.s. Someone mention Han's background..I believe it has been written in one of the novels that he used to be a pilot for the Empire before going Smuggler,  so yeah I guess he was apart of a Corp at one time lol.

If i was to try and play Eve solo i would do the following.

Stay in the NPC corp as it will give you people to talk to.

Chose a farely easy and safe way to earn cash [such as Trading and level 4 mission running].

For PvP fun fly a cheap tech one ship you dont mind losing.

My best bet for you is to try trading its very easy to do [once you get the hang of it] and it can earn a nice ammount of cash for what is basically a hauling proffesion. And if you do well you will have lots of cash to spend for a weekend binge of PvP.

I've been pirating with an alt scout, in low sec and 0.0 for the last two years.  About 1/3rd of my kills are solo.  Because I love Battlecruisers, my alt has saved me from many deaths by gatecamps.  If I didn't have the alt, I'd be able to use a cloaky recon, frig, or expendable T1 cruiser and still get along just fine.

Solo can be fun and profitable.  The ONLY downside is that the targets you can engage is more limited.  Most people don't fly solo, and when you see a few guys that won't split up and you know you can't take them all together you have to just move on to another target - when you could have had a good fight if you had a buddy with you.

 The answer is yes.  But I suggest joining a corp. It opens more gameplay in a sandpit universe that you can be anything you make it to be. 

Edited- please watch out for Jabba the Hutt's sarlacc, Godzilla, and flying monkeys! SANDPIT!!!!!!!

Sandpit.. I love it.

Somehow fits eve better than sandbox.

Sandpit.... with landmines and that monster that was hanging out under Jabba the Hut's barge....

And quicksand. Don't forget the quicksand.

Jeeesssus!~ I meant sand box.  ;)  

Originally posted by batolemaeus

And quicksand. Don't forget the quicksand.

Did anyone ever told you your EVE avatar looks like Michael Wincott?

Originally posted by ExplodingPod

Sandpit.. I love it.

Somehow fits eve better than sandbox.

Sandpit.... with landmines and that monster that was hanging out under Jabba the Hut's barge....

Dont forget the cat Turds [goonswarm as an example]

I have played solo for the last six years and it have not gotten boring for me yet.

I have both a character in a rookie NPC corp and in my own solo corp. I needed the corp facade to be able to run my own starbase in low security space. There are lots of things to do for a solo player, especially enjoying the thrills of low security space.

Originally posted by Toquio3

Originally posted by batolemaeus

And quicksand. Don't forget the quicksand.

 

Did anyone ever told you your EVE avatar looks like Michael Wincott?

Holy crap it does hahahahhaha! 

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Originally posted by Toquio3

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Originally posted by batolemaeus

And quicksand. Don't forget the quicksand.

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Did anyone ever told you your EVE avatar looks like Michael Wincott?

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My experience is everyone doing PVP has more than one account and because the combat in EVE isn't twitch based, it is easy to control several ships at the same time. Not only that but the game is so overcrowded now that you can't roam for ages and not see anyone anymore. I remember back in 2003 I'd roam on my own in low sec and attack people but you can't do that anymore like you could.

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Originally posted by Varny
My experience is everyone doing PVP has more than one account and because the combat in EVE isn't twitch based, it is easy to control several ships at the same time. Not only that but the game is so overcrowded now that you can't roam for ages and not see anyone anymore. I remember back in 2003 I'd roam on my own in low sec and attack people but you can't do that anymore like you could.

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Yep, alts killed the gameplay...

thats the one thing, if any, that does bother me, is that it seems EVE space has become...saturated.  From playing for several days now, I'm addicted to it already..skilling is like crack to me.  I turned on the option in the map where you can see where people have been podded in the last 24 hours..and there isn't a lonely amount of space to be found it seems.

I like finding those lonely pockets where you suddenly realize your not alone..that adds a fear factor that gets me going.  But when you got 100's of people in each system..hard to find those places.  Of course half of those are most likely traders.

I think they need to expand their space a little.  Doesn't seem like it would be hard to do, given the way the game looks constructed.