Originally posted by Threetowns

 

Don't play this game.   

I say try it, what you have to lose ?  Free 10 days to be able to see for your selfs?

I recently played through a trial, with high hopes, only to be let down.

Sorry  /crys

First of all, even with the graphics cranked all the way up, this game looks unfinished and very poorly done.

I have to Disagree, because somehow the game has is seting the Gamma too far Bright is reason world looks crappy.

Most people dont know that befor you log into the game after you put in your pass word, you can change Monitor Gamma ?

lower left side befor you log in, has Options to change the settings on the Gamma..

Space bar set from 1.0 to 2.5   befor i knew this the game looked too Bright for me and washed out!

Gameplay is clunky, the controls and interface are awkward at best, and keymapping doesn't allow enough freedom of customization to allow you to make up for the poor design. I can see what they were trying to do, they just went about it all wrong.

The game has been out like 4 months ?  I have faith in the people that made this game, if anyone has issues with Bugs and what not, take it to there  Forums and send and email to there support Team..   Coming here to talk down a game, when was the last time you made an MMORPG ?    If people hate how games are being made, tell the company and send emails!  All im saying what we to do about a game people dislike ?  

SOOO What game is not Broke ? 

The thing I had the biggest problem with is that they allow the GM's to play the game. On it's own that's not a horrible thing, except that those GM's are allowed to act like...well, GM's while they are playing. I'm sorry but in my opinion there is a serious ethical isue with allowing a GM to use his GM authority while he/she is supposed to be just another paying customer. I witnessed an example of the problem during my trial play, at one point a GM "Carlin" threatened to shut down the entire chat because he wasn't happy with the fact that there was soo much chatter in the help chat...really?

Ok so the channel is for Help ???  Do you like it to become the Barrens chat ? Or  Aions Spam Gold sellers chat room ?

When was the last time you was able to get help from a GM in any game on the spot ?  He was doing his job!

The game's one saving grace is the crafting system (stolen from EVE, and not improved apon at all, in fact it's not as well done.) but it isn't enough to save this beta quality game.

I bet most people dont know that WOW has took alot from other games!   LOL stolen from EVE..  The Fallen Earth team log into the files of Eve and Took out there crafting ?    How Dare them!  Call The internet Police!

I had very high hopes for this game, I loved the IP, and was into the backstory, but they failed to deliver a first tier product, I've played several of the free-to-play games that are better done than Fallen Earth.

Too bad, what are you playing now ?   

Kind Regards,

I wish you well..  Keep looking for that special game. :)

I gave one mans opinion based on his expeirences playing the trial, I stand by everything I said, if you, or anyone else, have had a different expeirence with this game than by all means post it.

The gamma issue is something I took care of after about 30 seconds of being logged in, changing it did little to improve its looks, add to that the clunky game play (and no, being out 4 mothns does not excuse this, fliud character movement and control systems are not something you add in post release, please). boring combat animation and GM's telling people not to ask for help in the help chanel and you have a game that I found to be unplayable.

It's funny that you make the asumption that I am a WoW fan, I stopped playing wow about two weeks before the first expansion was released and have never looked back.

At any rate enjoy playing Fallen Earth, it's clear you are a fan. I will, as you say, keep looking for that special game. (one that's released in some semblance of a polished state.)

And to those of you posting screenshots, as if they somehow back your claim to the lush beauty of the graphics in this game...they don't.  the graphics have a thin, unfinished feel to them, which is sad because as I stated the concept and IP of the game lend themselves to creating a truly awesome looking world, but that's just not the case.

Originally posted by Muridan

 

 

It's funny that you make the asumption that I am a WoW fan, I stopped playing wow about two weeks before the first expansion was released and have never looked back.

Ok were did i say you were a WoW Fan ???  How you come up with that ???  Plzzzz Tell me ROFLMO

Originally posted by Muridan

 

 GM's telling people not to ask for help in the help chanel and you have a game that I found to be unplayable.

This is quite simply a lie. If you don't like the game that's fine and you can actually make a fair argument as to why based on most of the reasons you gave. Opinions differ. However you taint your entire post with this nonsense.  The GMs ask people not to spam the help channel with bullshit and take action when they don't comply, nothing more. That's not an opinion. It's not open to interpretation. It's simply true.

Originally posted by Muridan

I gave one mans opinion based on his expeirences playing the trial, I stand by everything I said, if you, or anyone else, have had a different expeirence with this game than by all means post it.

As we clearly already did...

The gamma issue is something I took care of after about 30 seconds of being logged in, changing it did little to improve its looks,

You did this when you logged in the game? this actualy can only be done in the launcher menu/options only. Gamma is only for the brightness of the game, not really the overall look of it.

add to that the clunky game play (and no, being out 4 mothns does not excuse this, fliud character movement and control systems are not something you add in post release, please).

I bet if FE was a full instanced, small area type of game the animation would be allot more fluid, myself am not really hindert by the movement animation as I know and understand the size of the game. So the only excuse I will use is that there arn't many game this size.

boring combat animation

Finaly a real opinion as you have every right to feel that way, I don't feel that way but that doesn't make either of us wrong or right....

and GM's telling people not to ask for help in the help chanel and you have a game that I found to be unplayable.

Sorry if the game IS unplayeble most people who enjoy it would just like you not play a unplayeble game, something I still feel not many people into games understand this. and GM's asking people not to ask for help, sorry never going to happen, unless it was something like someone wanted to group or so as that is sort of a help qeustion but should be asked in /region.

It's funny that you make the asumption that I am a WoW fan, I stopped playing wow about two weeks before the first expansion was released and have never looked back.

Myself never make these WOW fan or any type of fanboy comments, but I can see why some might, no worries you a grown man I hope ...hehe

At any rate enjoy playing Fallen Earth, it's clear you are a fan. I will, as you say, keep looking for that special game. (one that's released in some semblance of a polished state.)

I really hope you find that game, as like always I rather see people find a game to enjoy then be busy with games or forums on games they don't like.

And to those of you posting screenshots, as if they somehow back your claim to the lush beauty of the graphics in this game...they don't.  the graphics have a thin, unfinished feel to them, which is sad because as I stated the concept and IP of the game lend themselves to creating a truly awesome looking world, but that's just not the case.

I will claim they look good, not sure what you feel is looking unfinished tho. Obvious your opinion, but would like to see you explain it somewhat on what you consider to have a unfinished look about them

in most common A-Tittle MMORPG's when you have branches or leaves/twiggs so close they get very distorted in screenshots. But please explain what YOU feel looks unfinished, and keep in mind this isn't even on a high end system.
 

This game has been a real surprise hit with me. I never followed the development of the game as I normally do for upcoming mmos. I never tried the beta. Never paid attention to the release, or the changes that came during the months following it. It was completely off my radar.

After seeing a post talking about the 10 day free trial I decided I was bored enough to give it a try. I dont know what I was expecting but I didn't anticipate finding anything to really grab my attention beyond the trial.

I was very wrong. I was really impressed with what I found. The atmosphere and writing were fantastic, the game ran smoothly on my rig (save some brief 2 second slowdown when first approaching big cities), and there was plenty of content to explore. The crafting and resource collection system in particular was a lot of fun (in addition to being genuinely useful) and has quickly become my favorite aspect of the game. Haven't yet tried out pvp but character build seems important so due to my extensive crafting on my main I'll likely create an alt to explore that.

All around great game, wish I had checked it out sooner. Can only see it getting better. Just goes to show, you never can tell until you give it a try. It was so ironic that all the games that I followed closely throughout development and thought had the most promise, didn't hold a candle to one I didn't follow at all. Lesson learned.

Decided to sub last night and the rest is history. Just want to thank the posters who helped me realize this game was out there.

Originally posted by Muridan

Originally posted by Threetowns

 

Don't play this game.   

I say try it, what you have to lose ?  Free 10 days to be able to see for your selfs?

I recently played through a trial, with high hopes, only to be let down.

Sorry  /crys

First of all, even with the graphics cranked all the way up, this game looks unfinished and very poorly done.

I have to Disagree, because somehow the game has is seting the Gamma too far Bright is reason world looks crappy.

Most people dont know that befor you log into the game after you put in your pass word, you can change Monitor Gamma ?

lower left side befor you log in, has Options to change the settings on the Gamma..

Space bar set from 1.0 to 2.5   befor i knew this the game looked too Bright for me and washed out!

Gameplay is clunky, the controls and interface are awkward at best, and keymapping doesn't allow enough freedom of customization to allow you to make up for the poor design. I can see what they were trying to do, they just went about it all wrong.

The game has been out like 4 months ?  I have faith in the people that made this game, if anyone has issues with Bugs and what not, take it to there  Forums and send and email to there support Team..   Coming here to talk down a game, when was the last time you made an MMORPG ?    If people hate how games are being made, tell the company and send emails!  All im saying what we to do about a game people dislike ?  

SOOO What game is not Broke ? 

The thing I had the biggest problem with is that they allow the GM's to play the game. On it's own that's not a horrible thing, except that those GM's are allowed to act like...well, GM's while they are playing. I'm sorry but in my opinion there is a serious ethical isue with allowing a GM to use his GM authority while he/she is supposed to be just another paying customer. I witnessed an example of the problem during my trial play, at one point a GM "Carlin" threatened to shut down the entire chat because he wasn't happy with the fact that there was soo much chatter in the help chat...really?

Ok so the channel is for Help ???  Do you like it to become the Barrens chat ? Or  Aions Spam Gold sellers chat room ?

When was the last time you was able to get help from a GM in any game on the spot ?  He was doing his job!

The game's one saving grace is the crafting system (stolen from EVE, and not improved apon at all, in fact it's not as well done.) but it isn't enough to save this beta quality game.

I bet most people dont know that WOW has took alot from other games!   LOL stolen from EVE..  The Fallen Earth team log into the files of Eve and Took out there crafting ?    How Dare them!  Call The internet Police!

I had very high hopes for this game, I loved the IP, and was into the backstory, but they failed to deliver a first tier product, I've played several of the free-to-play games that are better done than Fallen Earth.

Too bad, what are you playing now ?   

Kind Regards,

I wish you well..  Keep looking for that special game. :)

 

I gave one mans opinion based on his expeirences playing the trial, I stand by everything I said, if you, or anyone else, have had a different expeirence with this game than by all means post it.

The gamma issue is something I took care of after about 30 seconds of being logged in, changing it did little to improve its looks, add to that the clunky game play (and no, being out 4 mothns does not excuse this, fliud character movement and control systems are not something you add in post release, please). boring combat animation and GM's telling people not to ask for help in the help chanel and you have a game that I found to be unplayable.

It's funny that you make the asumption that I am a WoW fan, I stopped playing wow about two weeks before the first expansion was released and have never looked back.

At any rate enjoy playing Fallen Earth, it's clear you are a fan. I will, as you say, keep looking for that special game. (one that's released in some semblance of a polished state.)

And to those of you posting screenshots, as if they somehow back your claim to the lush beauty of the graphics in this game...they don't.  the graphics have a thin, unfinished feel to them, which is sad because as I stated the concept and IP of the game lend themselves to creating a truly awesome looking world, but that's just not the case.

Well, you are entitled to your opinion about the game of course. To each their own.

I just dont like your remark about the GM's, because its a plain lie. How difficult is it to understand that the HELP channel is for asking questions about the game and not meant for some random chat? You can use the Region channel, local or your clan channel for that. Those GM's(names in yellow font) you saw are moderating the HELP channel and never shut down questions about the game.

They are also not using their private characters (if they play FE) for the GM job. All the GM's ingame use 45+ characters so you can easily find them using the social window. A private toon cant reach a lvl higher then 45 ><

Originally posted by Scyris

Originally posted by tehikk

I've signed up for a trial long ago, and it's probably been used up, but it was because the download would've taken roughly four days...

Could anyone offer different links for the client download?

I wouldn't expect much out of Fallen Earth, unless you like staring at brown dirt for hours, bland boring combat. Hell. I couldn't even get out of the newbie zone in a trial (I was in beta and it was fine, dunno what happened when they released it) due to some massive lag that I only have on the game server.. their customer support was also horrid and kept copy and pasting the same paragraph when I tried to tell them the problem. I'd suggest you honestly stay away from Fallen Earth, Biggest waste of money out there mmowise, its up there with Eve Online in this aspect. I'd give ddo online a try, its free and a far better game than fallen earth is.

Totally invalidated your opinion there with just one line. 

Actually, FE sounds pretty good so far and your experience doesn't seem to fit with that of most other posters. 

As to what's a better game, that's purely a matter of opinion and it sounds like most of your issues can be traced back to some sort of incompatibility with your rig.

Originally posted by Muridan

Don't play this game.

Try the trial for yourself, people reading these forums should be able to make their own decisions about what game to play.  OP, please save yourself some grief and flames by keeping blunt statements like this out of your posts.  Try instead "I don't recomend this game".

I recently played through a trial, with high hopes, only to be let down.

Ah yes, the usual "high hopes" people have for games.  It took many years of playing MMORPGs for me to finally realize if I'm hyped up, I'm going to be disappointed with something in a new game.  It seems inevitable.  You put yourself in the position to be let down, learn from your mistake.

First of all, even with the graphics cranked all the way up, this game looks unfinished and very poorly done.

Could you reference what other games have better polish or finished looks?  Actually, let's pull an exact example, please tell us a game that has blades of grass vs the usual flat "clump" grass for landscape, I'd like to see which game has better or equal, again, let's pick one thing, the grass, ok?

Gameplay is clunky, the controls and interface are awkward at best, and keymapping doesn't allow enough freedom of customization to allow you to make up for the poor design. I can see what they were trying to do, they just went about it all wrong.

Please define how it was clunky.  Was it the "crosshair" type of combat?  I know we are all used to obtaining a target and then spamming skills/spells, this game isn't like that, you actually have to keep moving your mouse to hit the target.  It can be frustrating, like melee trying to hit ranged who like to keep moving away, but you do get used to it.

The thing I had the biggest problem with is that they allow the GM's to play the game. On it's own that's not a horrible thing, except that those GM's are allowed to act like...well, GM's while they are playing. I'm sorry but in my opinion there is a serious ethical isue with allowing a GM to use his GM authority while he/she is supposed to be just another paying customer. I witnessed an example of the problem during my trial play, at one point a GM "Carlin" threatened to shut down the entire chat because he wasn't happy with the fact that there was soo much chatter in the help chat...really?

As others have stated, the GMs don't play the game as GMs.  They are there only to monitor the game and make sure things are going right.  They are also one of the best assets this game has... there are GMs on 24/7, ready to assist whenever needed.  You obviously totally exaggerated the "shut down the entire chat", or have taken it completely out of context for something extreme that was happening in chat.  If you can't provide a screenshot of the GM saying this, I have a very hard time believing you at all.  And remember, /help is for help, not any other chat.  Follow the rules, everyone's happy.

The game's one saving grace is the crafting system (stolen from EVE, and not improved apon at all, in fact it's not as well done.) but it isn't enough to save this beta quality game.

The crafting in this game is great for a few reasons, you can craft anywhere, anytime, online, offline, in a facility or out hunting.  You can craft everything your character will need or use in the game, food, drink, weapons, armor, vehicles.  The system, though like the one in another game, is it's own style.  To claim it was stolen from another game, well, sorry, other than Meridian 59 or UO and EQ, basically everything in every MMO is stolen from some other game.

I had very high hopes for this game, I loved the IP, and was into the backstory, but they failed to deliver a first tier product, I've played several of the free-to-play games that are better done than Fallen Earth.

Again, you set yourself up to be disappointed, lesson learned.  There is a great backstory, questlines have some great humor as well as tie into the other towns nicely.  IMO this is a first tier, A-List game - it's different than the majority of MMOs out there, hence some people who dislike it, they just don't "get" how to play it.  It is YOUR opinion that this game fails, and really, it failed due to your mindset and expectations.

(My responses in yellow)

To have people continuously claim FE is a bad game, has gotten very old.  I respect those who list out specific issues with a game.  For those who just complain to complain, well, I'm sorry, go back to the "great game" you played that was so much better.  This is one game where IMO it's the type of interface for combat that throws people off, they just can't get past it - and it's a shame.

• Check your video settings.
• Ensure you indeed have the most up to date drivers for your graphics card.
• Find a bug?  Report it so the staff knows about it and can fix it.
• Need help, use the /help channel and keep it to help issues only, it's not a global chat, follow the simple rules.
• Still hate the game?  Give specific reasons, and keep them factual.

Yes, I've bad mouthed a game or two.  However, all of my complaining or recommendations to avoid a game are backed with facts, links to moderator/developer discussions and sites that list out specifically what I'm talking about.  I will add my opinions, but always state, they are just my opinion.  If more people "hate posting" would follow some simple restraint, I think even people who disagree with a "hater" will engage in a civil conversation, no matter the game.

Those who hate FE, I really do hope you find the right game for yourself.  When you do find it, please, feel free to share that information with others, even us FE players.  Many of us like to keep our options open and are more than willing to check out a game someone has suggested.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Muridan

 

 GM's telling people not to ask for help in the help chanel and you have a game that I found to be unplayable.

 

This is quite simply a lie. If you don't like the game that's fine and you can actually make a fair argument as to why based on most of the reasons you gave. Opinions differ. However you taint your entire post with this nonsense.  The GMs ask people not to spam the help channel with bullshit and take action when they don't comply, nothing more. That's not an opinion. It's not open to interpretation. It's simply true.

Why would I lie, then proceed to give the name of the GM? Read my first post in the thread.

The GM 'Carlin' didn't like that some new players were asking questions that, aparently, were answered for them during the tutorial, he threatened  to close the chat. This is a fact.

Originally posted by Muridan

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by Muridan

 

 GM's telling people not to ask for help in the help chanel and you have a game that I found to be unplayable.

 

This is quite simply a lie. If you don't like the game that's fine and you can actually make a fair argument as to why based on most of the reasons you gave. Opinions differ. However you taint your entire post with this nonsense.  The GMs ask people not to spam the help channel with bullshit and take action when they don't comply, nothing more. That's not an opinion. It's not open to interpretation. It's simply true.

 

Why would I lie, then proceed to give the name of the GM? Read my first post in the thread.

The GM 'Carlin' didn't like that some new players were asking questions that, aparently, were answered for them during the tutorial, he threatened  to close the chat. This is a fact.

I have no idea why you would lie and don't really care. You're lying and that's all that needs to be known. Your first statement and your second are also completely different and both lies. I have actually seen GMs shut down the help channel but only for a few minutes and to deal with several especially problematic posters. They never do it because someone asked a valid question.