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  ALEXAROTH

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Joined: 1/16/10
Posts: 4

1/17/10 11:53:24 AM#41

This is sad indeed. It just shows your mental limitations. Remember the game has a real cash economy ? and the only standard way of making money is by gathering sweat and selling it to other players. Ok you are following me till now ? good. So I did not deposit when I begun (those 10 dollars were after 1 year, when I did not needed them anyway).  So I sweated and sold that to other players. I made @ 50-60 PED (5-6 dollars). THEN I started trading. Yes, what u seem to not understand is that trading in a real cash economy world makes... real money duhh. So I traded a whole summer, buy from people on the street and sell to those that needed but did not had the time to buy themselves. I made my first hundreds of $ this way, witch allowed me to trade a bit every day and also hunt. So what I lost while hunting I gained in trading profits. Until the jackpot hit (it does hit you if you keep hunting eventually) : a 10000 Ped loot at a mob I hunted 5-6 months or so. Trading was then over. I had enough capital to keep hunting that mob in a way in witch I could sustain myself on the long run (of course I won't tell how, that's the secret hehe). That was 1-2 years ago. since then I kept hunting and I reached my level ( a pretty good one I might say, comparing spending vs possible returns in case of a cash out.

I am not a MA employee, having other smart asses like you in game would just create me more lag.

  patrikd23

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Joined: 10/17/04
Posts: 1198

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.

1/18/10 1:08:13 AM#42
Originally posted by ALEXAROTH

This is sad indeed. It just shows your mental limitations. Remember the game has a real cash economy ? and the only standard way of making money is by gathering sweat and selling it to other players. Ok you are following me till now ? good. So I did not deposit when I begun (those 10 dollars were after 1 year, when I did not needed them anyway).  So I sweated and sold that to other players. I made @ 50-60 PED (5-6 dollars). THEN I started trading. Yes, what u seem to not understand is that trading in a real cash economy world makes... real money duhh. So I traded a whole summer, buy from people on the street and sell to those that needed but did not had the time to buy themselves. I made my first hundreds of $ this way, witch allowed me to trade a bit every day and also hunt. So what I lost while hunting I gained in trading profits. Until the jackpot hit (it does hit you if you keep hunting eventually) : a 10000 Ped loot at a mob I hunted 5-6 months or so. Trading was then over. I had enough capital to keep hunting that mob in a way in witch I could sustain myself on the long run (of course I won't tell how, that's the secret hehe). That was 1-2 years ago. since then I kept hunting and I reached my level ( a pretty good one I might say, comparing spending vs possible returns in case of a cash out.

I am not a MA employee, having other smart asses like you in game would just create me more lag.

 

And you dont think that sweaters like you that do everything from free and dont deposit money dont make the game lag? Please go get your thinking cap and use some logic. I was in the game formerly known as Project Entropia when you where in diapers kiddo.

And to the looks of it the game is a sinking ship right now, because the economy is going to shits. So please go and play the game! And if you wanna make money you get 500 % more money by just collecting thin cans 1 day a week. And the game atm is more like this "Its a blackjack game where the dealer decides who wins and who loses". So be my guest and have fun. Mindark and FPC really screwed up a good game beyond repair this time.

  patrikd23

Novice Member

Joined: 10/17/04
Posts: 1198

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.

1/18/10 1:09:24 AM#43
Originally posted by Scot

"All they did was remodel the casino floor"

There is an ironic symbolism in that statement. :)

 

Yes they sure did, but this time the can decide who wins and who loses on top of that.

  ronsson

Novice Member

Joined: 1/13/04
Posts: 21

1/19/10 2:32:59 AM#44

Most interesting.

I only played it for a couple of hours in the first months of release when it was called Project Entropia and quit because of ginormous rubberbanding issues. Like many others I didn't understand what the game was about and didn't find any goal with playing.

From this thread I understand that it is indeed designed as a casino and it seems everyone agrees that it's all about making money. The players who understand the game fully accept and appreciate that.

I think it is a lot better than a scam but they should probably be more open about it.

http://www.wurmonline.com for gods sake!

  Smoerble

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/01/07
Posts: 8

1/19/10 3:22:24 AM#45

I don't understand why ppl flame so hard against each other. Maybe the haters didn't play careful and lost a ton of €uro, but if so, they won't tell us.

From my impression, most people play with the same amount of money, they would pay as a subscription fee in other MMORPGs, and imo this is the only way, a normal player would go. I had some free cash and decided, not to put all in shares at the bank, but also try something in Entropia. But the money was taken as if it's sahres: no guarantee, 100% might get lost.

It's not necessary to do that, not many people run active shops like me in Entropia. But it's definately wrong, that you can't go far with 50 US$.

As someone has written above: if someone plays stupid (and I am not talking about bad luck!), then he looses more than avarage. If someone plays clever, he pays less than avarage or might even at no costs.

That's the idea of "avarage": stupid people pay too much, clever people pay less.

And before I had my shops, I was able to play months with 50 US$, but I wasn't greedy, lol :D

  dar_es_balat

Novice Member

Joined: 1/13/07
Posts: 456

If someone has alot of friends, does that make them a socialist?

1/19/10 12:10:28 PM#46

I just started playing this game 2 weeks ago, and honestly its an amazing game.   A true sandbox MMO.   The game is 100% free to play, but as in reality you get the type of experience you pay for.   While FTP is viable, and you can eventually do very well, youre likely to spend the first couple of months simply sweating and trading.

Dont get me wrong.  After those 3-4 months of doing this one task you will have an excellent set of skills suitable for a very brilliant career in mindforce!   However, you will probably also be bored out of your mind!

I adopted a more aggressive path of depositing early and diligently hunting and using my resources to their fullest extent.   Will I succeed?  I dont know!   But its an adventure, a fun one that my girlfriend and other friends are looking to join me on or have already, emulating my philosophy and approach to entropia due to the scope of things I have experienced early on in the game.

Is it for everyone?  No.  The game is honestly difficult.   EU however is the game to play if you are looking for a challenge that both appeals to your gaming side and your entrepreneurial side!

Cheers,

Crappy, petty people breed and raise crappy, petty kids.

  scamtropia

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/16/09
Posts: 23

2/03/10 10:31:04 PM#47

Graphics are average at best.

Cost to play is far too high.

Economic model of a casino ponzi hybrid.

Everything you do (craft, mine, hunt, color etc) is all a gamble - you put up your ante, click... and pray!

 

To put the cost in perspective (this is optimistic prices too);

remember, (L) means it breaks and cannot be repaired - you have to buy a new one, including markup, everytime it breaks.

Basic Low/Mid level hunting gear:

HL400 (L) [pistol] - 177PED @ 120%(markup) = 212.4PED / $21.24
Ghost [armor] - 348PED + 400PED (markup) = 748PED / $74.80
T20 (L) [healpack] -  57.9 @ 120% = 69.48PED/$6.95
A104 [dmg amplifier] - 40PED + 160PED (markup) = 200PED / $20
Ammunition = 300PED / $30

TOTAL BASIC COST = 1529.88PED = $152.99 USD

 

 

This is just low/mid level!

When you start dealing in mid/high level (not even near uber level) you're looking at $1k-10k USD just to kit yourself. THEN you have on-going expenses such as repairs, replenishing ammo, so on and so forth.

Basically, the whole game mechanic is based on a casino, but you'd need to actually play EU to know what I mean.

I play EU, but not because I like it, rather, because I want my damn money back! (and I have a fair amount of gear/skills). Plus I think I'm addicted, much like a gambler at the one armed bandits.

Entropians (other than me) will try and sugar coat shit and call it a donut, but we all know damn well that it's a casino. That's why noone congratulates condition crafters for their big loots, everyone says "good LUCK" and noone can ever be sure of anything.
Even investing in property such as land, shops, houses has recently been shown to be a hugely risky venture as Mindark change anything to do with anything when and where they see fit, which ultimately, could turn your big money investment into a virtual paper weight.

If I could go back and stop myself installing Entropia, I'd do it in a heart beat!

Entropia - Madoff would be proud!

Entropia is a scam, a casino designed to suck you in and strip your bank account.
The Swedes are rich enough without you handing over your credit cards! DONT FALL FOR IT!

  Ozmodan

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/27/07
Posts: 7156

2/04/10 7:34:54 AM#48
Originally posted by dar_es_balat

I just started playing this game 2 weeks ago, and honestly its an amazing game.   A true sandbox MMO.   The game is 100% free to play, but as in reality you get the type of experience you pay for.   While FTP is viable, and you can eventually do very well, youre likely to spend the first couple of months simply sweating and trading.

Dont get me wrong.  After those 3-4 months of doing this one task you will have an excellent set of skills suitable for a very brilliant career in mindforce!   However, you will probably also be bored out of your mind!

I adopted a more aggressive path of depositing early and diligently hunting and using my resources to their fullest extent.   Will I succeed?  I dont know!   But its an adventure, a fun one that my girlfriend and other friends are looking to join me on or have already, emulating my philosophy and approach to entropia due to the scope of things I have experienced early on in the game.

Is it for everyone?  No.  The game is honestly difficult.   EU however is the game to play if you are looking for a challenge that both appeals to your gaming side and your entrepreneurial side!

Cheers,

There is a group called Gamblers Anonymous you should get to know them, they might be able to help you....

  Wagrof

Novice Member

Joined: 4/03/07
Posts: 32

2/16/10 4:40:43 PM#49

Later adopters of MMOs often feel disenfranchised or unable to get into the mainstream of things because earlier adopters have progressed to the top end and in crafting or hunting, dominate the market. Not so in Entropia.

 

you guys should do some research before posting stuff like this, because the exact contrary is the truth.

they changed the skillgain mechanics few years ago, so that it's impossible to catch up to the so called "vets", who run around with profession skills at 100 or evader 80 etc.

if someone invested the same amount of time and money like they did, he'd not be even close to them, with the current skill mechanics.  so it's actually worse than in other MMOs.

  Torschen

Novice Member

Joined: 2/02/07
Posts: 80

4/27/10 8:33:25 AM#50
Originally posted by patrikd23

No you cant compare WoW and Entropia because WoW cost 15 bucks every MONTH and Entropia can cost 15 bucks an HOUR. Ofcourse it all depends on what you hunt. But if you play this game you better be ready to lose the money you put in.

You know what you (us) all ppl who are online in mmorpgs? We make friends there. You know what I mean. Now what do you do when you get bored of the game that has monthly fee. You quit. And there goes your friends too. You have to pay just to have chance to talk to them (unless you happened to get their IM adress).

 

Just played 1 month WoW again, got bored (again), and last day I really liked to send some last messages to friends there. When I log in the system tells me I have less than 2 minutes No exceptions. No way around. But to pay for one month more. I even have to pay for one month to just to post on forums. Screw that.

In Entropia I can log in anytime anywhere without paying anything and have a talk with my friends. (And actually I can do some activities there too without paying a dime. Nothing serious gaming of course). I do that occasionally even if I happen to be actively playing some other mmorpg presently.

This makes the world truly persistent. I never forget I have this second life (hehe) lying there, even if I'm currently not playing.

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  aesbestos

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Joined: 1/05/06
Posts: 81

7/08/10 1:38:08 PM#51

I can remember playing Project Entropia and gathering sweat for hours...  Only to get a used crappy gun and fail at hunting immediately.

 

I wouldn't mind giving it a shot with 20$ or something.  Looks pretty.

  Torschen

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Joined: 2/02/07
Posts: 80

7/10/10 9:43:36 AM#52
Originally posted by aesbestos

I can remember playing Project Entropia and gathering sweat for hours...  Only to get a used crappy gun and fail at hunting immediately.

 

I wouldn't mind giving it a shot with 20$ or something.  Looks pretty.

Hehe, yes economically this 'game' can be absolutely horrible sometimes. Last 2 weeks I have constantly lost about 100ped/day, that is 10USD/day lol. I can stomach that just because I got a very precious blueprint while crafting 2 weeks ago.. but now I must have a break or I will be broke in VERY soon. Its bad times for me obviously. See you in autumn :)

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