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  Swanea

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Joined: 4/25/08
Posts: 2113

1/18/10 12:38:47 AM#21

An instanced game in one of the biggest IPs with such a huge following.  Terrible.

D-.

  DeerJuice

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Joined: 1/02/10
Posts: 9

1/18/10 3:32:21 AM#22

D. Not an F because I guess you can qualify it as a (somewhat) playable game.

With a release date hitting in 15 days (assuming they are working through the weekend) There is no chance this game is going to be a success at launch. Open Betas like these, this close to launch are for stress tests and marketing. If they wanted a successful game they would postpone the release date.

  User Deleted
1/18/10 3:37:13 AM#23

B+

Make it a bit less instanced and I'll probably buy it.

  mrw0lf

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Posts: 2244

1/18/10 4:51:03 AM#24

Was so hyped for the game, then heard about the mall shop and sub, instant rejection. Got my key from here, tried the beta, I have pre-ordered.

It has a lot of things about it that I hate, lack of mmo for one major one but I have enjoyed it none the less. I don't condone subbing a sp/co-op game so I doubt I''l be going past the free month.

Rated: B

The minute the shop is implemented though, I'll probably junk it, it's a shame.

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  Nyast

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Posts: 84

1/18/10 7:05:35 AM#25

I'm giving it a B- but that's assuming a polished, bug-free, lag-free version ( hopefully by release ) with more content. Anybody expecting a sandbox, immersive universe will be disapointed. If you don't have too high expectations and take the game for what it is, it can be fun for a while. I wouldn't play it for more than a few months, but until it lasts, I'd have fun. The game mechanics are pretty classic ( including the grinding ) and the instancing / loading screens are disapointing. The space combat is easily the best part, although a bit repetitive, but it doesn't bore me to death like Eve did. It has a good balance of twitch ( controling your ship directly ) and tactics.

  seabeast

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Joined: 3/24/05
Posts: 766

1/18/10 7:14:15 AM#26

Been playing all weekend and having a ball in the beta. I have seen much worse in beta potbs for one with the issue of avatar combat there. While I do agree that  there is a lack of balande between the feds and kilingon, I do not thing that the unbalance will remain for launch. Good startrek them but any startrek beyond the original is crap.

Ultimately, I wont grade the game in this bait and troll thread but, i will be preordering

 

  ktanner3

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Posts: 3075

1/18/10 8:34:12 AM#27
Originally posted by Actus
Originally posted by dannydeuce
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Murashu

I'd wait til it launches but thats just me.


 

Me too.

 

Ditto.


 

Why?  Other than bugs and lag... how much do you really expect it to improve?  I think everyone is addressing legitimate "content" concerns.

Edit:  Corrected punctuation... yeah... I'm crazy like that.


 

Because not everything that will be available in game is available now. So I'm going to wait until I have actually played the full game, not part of it.That's like giving me a sample of food and then asking me to grade the entire menu.

MMOs played:SWG,NGE,Warhammer, World of Warcraft, Star Trek Online,Eve, Star Wars the Old Republic.
Favorite MMO: Star Wars the Old Republic
Least Favorite MMO: NGE

  Robsolf

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1/18/10 8:52:50 AM#28

Had to vote "C", but...

If it launches as it is(unlikely), it's a "D", maybe an "E".  If they squash most of the bugs, and eliminate having to redo the whole episode when you have to abandon the final segment because there aren't enough squads/pickups/etc on the map(or your team doesn't beam down), I'd give it a "B-".

The bugs usually come at the least opportune time, as do the server boots.  Usually at the end of a mission chain that takes 45 minutes to complete.  Most of my bug reports end with the comment, "Is this a social experiment?".

  User Deleted
1/18/10 8:56:57 AM#29
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Actus
Originally posted by dannydeuce
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Murashu

I'd wait til it launches but thats just me.


 

Me too.

 

Ditto.


 

Why?  Other than bugs and lag... how much do you really expect it to improve?  I think everyone is addressing legitimate "content" concerns.

Edit:  Corrected punctuation... yeah... I'm crazy like that.


 

Because not everything that will be available in game is available now. So I'm going to wait until I have actually played the full game, not part of it.That's like giving me a sample of food and then asking me to grade the entire menu.


 

Isn't this the open beta and the game is set to launch in, what, two weeks?  Keep saying that major changes or additions will happen before then, only fooling yourself if you believe it.  And if anything IS rushed into the game in that time frame, do you honestly feel that it will be benefitial?

You're playing what you're going to get at release, love it or hate it.

  ktanner3

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Posts: 3075

1/18/10 9:01:47 AM#30
Originally posted by Angorim
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Actus
Originally posted by dannydeuce
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Murashu

I'd wait til it launches but thats just me.


 

Me too.

 

Ditto.


 

Why?  Other than bugs and lag... how much do you really expect it to improve?  I think everyone is addressing legitimate "content" concerns.

Edit:  Corrected punctuation... yeah... I'm crazy like that.


 

Because not everything that will be available in game is available now. So I'm going to wait until I have actually played the full game, not part of it.That's like giving me a sample of food and then asking me to grade the entire menu.


 

Isn't this the open beta and the game is set to launch in, what, two weeks?  Keep saying that major changes or additions will happen before then, only fooling yourself if you believe it.  And if anything IS rushed into the game in that time frame, do you honestly feel that it will be benefitial?

You're playing what you're going to get at release, love it or hate it.


 

Not saying anything of the kind. What I am saying is that not everything is available to play.

MMOs played:SWG,NGE,Warhammer, World of Warcraft, Star Trek Online,Eve, Star Wars the Old Republic.
Favorite MMO: Star Wars the Old Republic
Least Favorite MMO: NGE

  User Deleted
1/18/10 9:03:33 AM#31
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Angorim
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Actus
Originally posted by dannydeuce
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Murashu

I'd wait til it launches but thats just me.


 

Me too.

 

Ditto.


 

Why?  Other than bugs and lag... how much do you really expect it to improve?  I think everyone is addressing legitimate "content" concerns.

Edit:  Corrected punctuation... yeah... I'm crazy like that.


 

Because not everything that will be available in game is available now. So I'm going to wait until I have actually played the full game, not part of it.That's like giving me a sample of food and then asking me to grade the entire menu.


 

Isn't this the open beta and the game is set to launch in, what, two weeks?  Keep saying that major changes or additions will happen before then, only fooling yourself if you believe it.  And if anything IS rushed into the game in that time frame, do you honestly feel that it will be benefitial?

You're playing what you're going to get at release, love it or hate it.


 

Not saying anything of the kind. What I am saying is that not everything is available to play.

If that is true, is it not going to be tested with the general public?  And what exactly isn't in the game that will be in for launch and not added at a later content patch/update/expansion?  I'm not downing the game in general, but the whole "it's beta" defense doesn't hold water when it's so close to release unless they're pushing it back longer than a month or more.
 

  towani

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Joined: 4/26/04
Posts: 114

1/18/10 10:05:26 AM#32

C.

Nothing special to see here.  I'd actually give the space combat a B-, but then the ground I'd give a D... so I guess it evens out at about a C.

Sound: A

Gfx: B-

PvE: C

PvP: TBD

Polished: D+

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  RaddMonz

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Posts: 86

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1/18/10 10:12:37 AM#33

I gave it a "C" simply because it is Star Trek...if it was any other IP, it would probably only get a "D" or less...

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  ktanner3

Master

Joined: 3/19/06
Posts: 3075

1/18/10 10:22:38 AM#34
Originally posted by Angorim
Originally posted by ktanner3


 Not saying anything of the kind. What I am saying is that not everything is available to play.

If that is true, is it not going to be tested with the general public?  And what exactly isn't in the game that will be in for launch and not added at a later content patch/update/expansion?  I'm not downing the game in general, but the whole "it's beta" defense doesn't hold water when it's so close to release unless they're pushing it back longer than a month or more.
 


 

The whole Genesis system, Deep Space Nine, social hubs, level cap 16 etc.etc. Until I can fully play all this, I can't give the game a grade.

MMOs played:SWG,NGE,Warhammer, World of Warcraft, Star Trek Online,Eve, Star Wars the Old Republic.
Favorite MMO: Star Wars the Old Republic
Least Favorite MMO: NGE

  namelessbob

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Posts: 1476

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1/18/10 11:59:55 AM#35

I'd go with a solid C.

So far from beta I can tell where they spent their time and effort, and where they kind of half assed it. The biggest enjoyment out of this game is the space combat and think they should have really concentrated on that while ignoring ground for now. I think that ground combat really murders the game play for me. If this would have been a space only game it would have gotten a B+ to an A- as it really has this aspect down well.

I believe that my biggest complaint and reasoning for giving the game a lower score is for the clunkiness of ground combat and the very boring tasks and lifeless worlds that you land on. If you are going to make this apart of the game there really needs to be more effort into the detail of the landscape creation, and to the wildlife and inhabitants. This truly needs to be developed if they want to solidify themselves into the market as a real player.

Space combat is great, and creates a lot of interesting options with abilities and weapons at your disposal that you will recognize from the series. I say bravo at the ship design, ship battle damage detail, and the over all options available for a ship.

The controls are simple, the interface is straight forward, but the skills are a little obtuse with their information. This is their downfall as the concentration isn't clear. Now if you are a fan of the original Star Wars Galaxies tree you will love this however as it is set up in a very similar manner.

I would give it an F on the basis as I myself can not put a single skill point into the trees. My 2 friends who played it with me however could. I logged on to their computers with my account and still could not. I reinstalled the game at first thinking it might be a poor install failure. I later realized that it must just be the character or the account due to the odd behavior it has had and the inability to put points into it on my computer or friends comps. A character bug this bad that prevents you from pretty much progressing in the game is a huge critical failure on Cryptics part and pretty much will cause me to uninstall and never buy the game. I think if this is a wide spread bug on characters such as this that they will see an underwhelming launch.

 

  ArcaSpiff

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Joined: 2/14/07
Posts: 96

1/18/10 12:02:06 PM#36

8 out of 10

  Adalwulff

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1/18/10 12:04:59 PM#37
Originally posted by Sunrider

I voted it a "D".  Not  because I'm a trek fan boi or upset with Cryptic but because of the countless bugs I've run in to and how boring and linear the game-play is.  This is Star Trek and all I've done is gone out and shot at things.  There is nothing about diplomacy, there is no talking to any of the NPC races, instead you come in guns blazing and shooting the shit out of people.

Furthermore, there is NO exploration in this game.  None.  There was at no point where I felt like there was any exploration in the game at all; unless of course you were trying to find your mission way points through space, which was horribly directed and left you with your thumb up your a** wondering where the hell you were suppose to go.  Example:
 
-"Take this sample of [insert something sci-fi here] that you got off of a ship you blew the hell out of the sky without even talking to the occupants, to Base 120391-293 somewhere in space" 

-*You head into space and look at the galaxy map, where the base you are looking for isn't listed and you can't search for it because there is no search function even though this base is owned by the Federation you have no clue where it is and none of your resources can tell you so you scream out in Zone chat "Where is Base 120391-293" and if you're lucky, someone may answer.

-If no answer then this is the exploration you have to deal with, and its not pleasant.

As much as I like the general idea/concepts, they're poorly implemented. Ground combat, while fun, is horribly fragile. God help you if an enemy gets up in your chest because you're not going to last more then a few shots, and the AI that accompanies you is SO dumb that they get stuck on ledges, corners, bodies, pebbles, you name it. Whats worse, is you can't get through things without them.

Lastly, space combat is probably the most redeeming quality of this game. Unfortunately it also lacks any real luster. While working the shields and trying to turn the ship so that your stronger shields are facing the enemy is fun, its also... meh. Its the same thing constantly. You don't have "warp power offline", you don't get "plasma leaks" or things of that nature, its just very... anti-climatic. Furthermore, you'll be able to take down a fleet of ships and then you come across one large ship and you can't do shit. Whats worse is you leave the mission for help and its a gamble whether it will reset or not and if you can both get into the same instance to defeat the ship together.


In all reality, the game could be better and I realize its only in beta, but lets be honest here... its a month from launch, what can they really fix/make better in that time frame?

 


 

Another clueless person.. dude, they turned all that stuff off so they can stress test the game and server. You do not deserve to be in BETA, you wasted a beta spot.

  yumpinyimini

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Joined: 11/01/09
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1/18/10 5:16:07 PM#38

So the concensus seems to be that the game in its current state is an Average to Below Average gaming experience.  Lets keep our fingers crossed that Cryptic will work to improve the game.

 

  Frostbite05

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Posts: 1919

1/18/10 5:19:29 PM#39

if they listen to the player base the game will advance to above average status and be successful. However, if they keep it as is now and don't advance it properly then the game is gonna fail pretty bad.

  Sunrider

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1/18/10 5:39:26 PM#40


Originally posted by Adalwulff

Originally posted by Sunrider

I voted it a "D".  Not  because I'm a trek fan boi or upset with Cryptic but because of the countless bugs I've run in to and how boring and linear the game-play is.  This is Star Trek and all I've done is gone out and shot at things.  There is nothing about diplomacy, there is no talking to any of the NPC races, instead you come in guns blazing and shooting the shit out of people.
Furthermore, there is NO exploration in this game.  None.  There was at no point where I felt like there was any exploration in the game at all; unless of course you were trying to find your mission way points through space, which was horribly directed and left you with your thumb up your a** wondering where the hell you were suppose to go.  Example:
 
-"Take this sample of [insert something sci-fi here] that you got off of a ship you blew the hell out of the sky without even talking to the occupants, to Base 120391-293 somewhere in space" 
-*You head into space and look at the galaxy map, where the base you are looking for isn't listed and you can't search for it because there is no search function even though this base is owned by the Federation you have no clue where it is and none of your resources can tell you so you scream out in Zone chat "Where is Base 120391-293" and if you're lucky, someone may answer.
-If no answer then this is the exploration you have to deal with, and its not pleasant.
As much as I like the general idea/concepts, they're poorly implemented. Ground combat, while fun, is horribly fragile. God help you if an enemy gets up in your chest because you're not going to last more then a few shots, and the AI that accompanies you is SO dumb that they get stuck on ledges, corners, bodies, pebbles, you name it. Whats worse, is you can't get through things without them.
Lastly, space combat is probably the most redeeming quality of this game. Unfortunately it also lacks any real luster. While working the shields and trying to turn the ship so that your stronger shields are facing the enemy is fun, its also... meh. Its the same thing constantly. You don't have "warp power offline", you don't get "plasma leaks" or things of that nature, its just very... anti-climatic. Furthermore, you'll be able to take down a fleet of ships and then you come across one large ship and you can't do shit. Whats worse is you leave the mission for help and its a gamble whether it will reset or not and if you can both get into the same instance to defeat the ship together.

In all reality, the game could be better and I realize its only in beta, but lets be honest here... its a month from launch, what can they really fix/make better in that time frame?
 


 
Another clueless person.. dude, they turned all that stuff off so they can stress test the game and server. You do not deserve to be in BETA, you wasted a beta spot.


I'm speaking from CLOSED Beta experience. I know what they did in open beta.


EDIT: Also, you make a good point. They turned all that stuff off that is now untestable for how long in open beta? And the game is how many weeks away from going live? I don't think I'm the clueless one here.

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