Best MMO out to date '

No population

more people on this vanguard forum than actually play lol

All we got to do is prove to sony that there are people willing to play to get this game rolling again!...

maybe post in there forums.. i dunno i just wish this game would make a comeback.

SOE has no interest in spending money on games they didnt make. THey buy these games to get the player to buy the station pass so they will play the other games.

Originally posted by justtires

Best MMO out to date '

No population

more people on this vanguard forum than actually play lol

 

All we got to do is prove to sony that there are people willing to play to get this game rolling again!...

maybe post in there forums.. i dunno i just wish this game would make a comeback.

Honestly, buddy... I know where you're at. Check my post history, I've tried a lot of stuff for this game. Vanguard is my all time favorite MMO out there right now. I played it for a while, but the lack of support from SOE and the lack of players ruined it for me. There is literally no chance they will ever bring this game back to the forefront of the MMO world.

One thing to consider is that VG is in direct competition with EQ2. EQ2 is Sony's baby, and while it sounds like a "tinfoil hat" comment, I honestly believe they bought the game so no one else would fix it up and destroy EQ2's population. All we can do is hope that in the future a game like VG comes out and succeeds.

Its a sad truth, but VG isn't going anywhere. They probably won't shut it down anytime soon, but don't expect it to go anywhere. If you enjoy yourself, that is all that matters. I stopped playing BECAUSE of SOE's lack of support and the so few people actually playing.

I feel your pain. I quit playing due to the lack of population. Big old empty world.

Sorry to do this to you, but as there has been a topic like this thrown up every day lately, I feel as if I must.

The only way for the population to go up is if people play... but people don't want to play cause the population is to low.... how do you fix that?? :)

All that want to play but don't because of the population should pick a date... then all start playing on that date.. mini launch day! :)

Well Seradon just got about 50 ++ more people on their server, the guild The Path Ahead just arrived, and we're luving it ! 

Originally posted by objeff

The only way for the population to go up is if people play... but people don't want to play cause the population is to low.... how do you fix that?? :)

All that want to play but don't because of the population should pick a date... then all start playing on that date.. mini launch day! :)

Not that it would be all that simple but i fyou had a community leader or more likely several i.e. some of the more established guilds to sign up and get it going a strong community is all it takes to keep a game alive, take a look at Horizons or what ever its name is now, that game just will not die granted its population is low but they aren't aiming for growth they are aiming to survive its also a good game it actualy has reall problems though pore rendering engine compatability issues with modern OS (fixed recently) and the fact that its anchent in MMO years.

Vanguard on the other hand is fairly young for a traditional MMO, is very well made though not perfect granted, I have no idea what its "active" subscriber base is like but with just a server full or so the game could be gold, it doesn't need 12mil active subscribers just 1 maybe 2 servers full which is within the relam of what the community could accomplish if only we had a few community leaders that would like to take the ball and run with. Personaly I would love to but im not an established GM and have no more voice in the player base than you, without established guilds to form the foundation of the games community it would be for not . . . not that I know the state of the games current community have only played trial a few times (as guilty as the rest for not playing)

I will say that I do plan on subing to VG rather or not its population ever comes up the game is just fun to play which is more than I can say for most of the MMOs I have played recently and the monthy sub is still cheaper than keeping me in standalone RPGs lol I can go through $60+ worth of them in month easy.

Well, I keep a Vanguard account as I think games like this need to be supported. People say vote with their wallet so I vote with my wallet.

BTW, I am also on Seradon Path ahead so I will see you around I'm sure ; )

I agree it is one of the best MMo's out now, hope it picks up population.

Uhmm my 2cp worth - no one really likes to talk to any reps from SoE. The attitude of SoE reps tend to make you want to commit harakiri with a blunt butter knife while gouging your eyes out with a plastic spoon.

I have no doubt that Vanguard is a great game but with SoE standing in the shadows, it isn't going to go anywhere. If you haven't tried yet, then I can only suggest perhaps posting an open letter on their boards and getting people to sign up a petition for a multiple server merge. Based on personal past experience with SoE, I think I can safely guess what the outcome of this will be but it's always better to try than to do nothing I suppose (*Shrugs*). At least you can say that you tried.

Good luck.

the game has 90% raid now  few % that join vanguard dont mind passing all content "breaking codes?  ect, the rest  come to the conclusion there just paying for a game just to watch the end game players play why they sit there with deserted  areas a borked economy and nothing to do but watch end game players slobbering bout there epics. the players put on a pretty good front but unless a new player willing to buy plat off live gamer to pay for the end gamers players controlled economy  there really nonthing goin on in vanguard

if soe would  enforce there rules and show the mmo community that  that vanguard a fair game worth the money to play and not a cheat to beat quest extranvaganza  vanguard would  have a lot better player base

I'm not sure what it is but I just can't get into this game.  It has everything I want, free form flight, housing, dragons, fantasy creatures, quests, awesome environment graphics (character is a bit weak).

I buy a month at a time, several times but I just can't seem to last more than a week or so.  KInda irritating.

Venge Sunsoar

Maybe because the game is devoid of human life and activity.

Check out lead dev's latest post on what's to come next year for Vanguard:  forums.station.sony.com/vg/posts/list.m

One of the most, if not the most anticipated features, Alternate Advancement, scrapped for now.  This is why people have given up on the game.  So many people were looking forward to the AA's as means to continue playing a maxed out character.

I'm not a fan of AA'a but do understand the reasoning behind it and agree to it to a point that its a much needed system  but right now what vanguard needs "lot more players = new subs  and lot less catering to the few"i beat vanguard crowd" just the bug fixing alone will  stop or  slow down the need for the grind effect and actually bring back  challenge for a player not  cater to the skillz of  a computer programmer,s not diddin computer programmers mind ya  but one would be suprised of how many computer geeks out there wont have the grades to get a job but  they got best avatar on the net.

Originally posted by justtires

Best MMO out to date '

No population

more people on this vanguard forum than actually play lol

 

All we got to do is prove to sony that there are people willing to play to get this game rolling again!...

maybe post in there forums.. i dunno i just wish this game would make a comeback.

I get a kick out of checking out these forums every few months and still finding these threads.  You do realize that you're trying to get people to "come back" (or start) a ghost town of a game that's been out for 3 years, right? 

There are some giants looming on the horizon:  Star Wars, FFXIV, Star Trek, WoW's cataclysm, and so on.  How on earth will a game like vanguard pull people away from any of those titles?   Grats on fixing the perfomance and bugs, but come on already, games of this age have multiple expansions by now. 

Nobody wants to get into a MMO that has the impression that it could get axed at any time.  MMO players don't waste their time, they always want to move forward.  Ok, I agree, Vanguard is a big beautiful world but it's not worth the time to go hug a tree.  People want the shinies.  People want to farm stuff, put it on auction and have it sell (supply and demand)  People don't want to look for a group for hours and hours.

Vanguard has potential but who really cares any more?  I'm sure the handful of you guys playing it do, but how do you convince the masses?  What does Vanguard offer that is so wonderful and different that people will drop what their doing to join? 

I guess these threads will continue until they finally pull the plug.

Originally posted by justtires

Best MMO out to date '

No population

more people on this vanguard forum than actually play lol

 

All we got to do is prove to sony that there are people willing to play to get this game rolling again!...

maybe post in there forums.. i dunno i just wish this game would make a comeback.

Been there done that.  This game, by many accounts, is THE best PvE-based MMO available.  But the SoE business decisions around how to manage the game and market the game have led the the declining population.

A key turning point was Pantheon of the Ancients... about the time of that release, online populations were pushing just over 1000 online for Xeth and Seradon.  Very healthy and very active.  But the decision was made to pull resources from Vanguard to the 'other mysterious SoE project' and they instituted a major grind to keep people occupied.  Every since that point, populations have fallen to where they are now.  Maybe 300-400 online on a good night for Seradon:( 

Then Silius's announcement that some of the big content releases that everyone was looking forward to (HoSS, Stirhaad, AAs) were being shelved indefinitely.  That was a kick in the face.

I've played Vanguard for almost 3 years.  Love the game, it's truly epic.  But after reading Silius's announcement I started looking prettty hard at other MMOs for our guild to consider moving to.  Nothing holds a candle to Vanguard which really puts the 'core' MMO players in a bad place right now. 

 As it stands the game is in limbo, SOE wont spend the money unless they have enough subs and we wont get enough subs to encourage that as not enough people are willing to come play the game because SOE wont spend money on it. So its a sick circle. 

Originally posted by yogimaster

the game has 90% raid now  few % that join vanguard dont mind passing all content "breaking codes?  ect, the rest  come to the conclusion there just paying for a game just to watch the end game players play why they sit there with deserted  areas a borked economy and nothing to do but watch end game players slobbering bout there epics. the players put on a pretty good front but unless a new player willing to buy plat off live gamer to pay for the end gamers players controlled economy  there really nonthing goin on in vanguard

if soe would  enforce there rules and show the mmo community that  that vanguard a fair game worth the money to play and not a cheat to beat quest extranvaganza  vanguard would  have a lot better player base

You sir are an idiot, the game play is nothing like this. "Breaking codes?" WTf is that? Get your head out of your 3rd point of contact and quit bashing a game you no zero about. Players need jack off the live gamer to play this game, you can make a character and play just like any other MMO.

Cheat to beat? OMG this makes no sense at all, the people you meet in this game are geat, noone wants to make enemies in such a low populated game, it needs to thrive and noone wants to drive you off by cheating.

I just canceled my account today. Not because of Population though, but because of the amount of bugs are in the game. There are more bugs in vanguard now then there were 1 year ago. Say what you want, but SOE have just ruined this game