Originally posted by Bazzyrick

I am really trying to convince myself to give EvE a go, I had a dabble about 1-2 years ago but RL meant I had to stop. The community of a game is really important to me, I am not going to play this game if my time will be spent flying around space on my own with only utter anti-social jerks in the chat channels to talk to. I have read pretty much every post on this topic and it just sounds like a big mix of harsh and cruel gameplay and friendly enjoyable gameplay.

If the above is correct, is it easy to get into the friendly and enjoyable part? I have played other games with big risk and while I will do my best to avoid it, I can certainly handle it.

Personally i find it really easy. I changed corps maybe 5 times in as many years, and i have never been put off by the members. Most people that have issues with this are simply lazy, they stay in the npc corps where everyone from iskspammer to farmbot starts out and then complain about the corpchat. Or they decide they want to try out a playercorp, and 5 min laters they took the first recruitment offer they saw in local and are appalled to find out its a bunch of jerks. Its really easy steps to find a good corp:

1. Decide what you want to do, or sometimes more important, what you dont want to do.

2. Join the ingame recruitment channel, thats how i found my corp, its a good place to start looking.

3. Visit the recruitment subforum on the official forums, just take a look at what is going on, what kind of corps are out there. Rule of thumb, if a prospective corp cant even be bothered to have a forum thread you shouldnt be bothered to go to the trouble checking them out some other ways.

4. Most corps looking for new members have a public channel, i typically hang out in such a place anywhere between a couple days or weeks(dont rush things, get to know the guys first).

5. Talk with the recruitment guys/girls, not just about joining the corp, but the game in general, are they a friendly bunch?

6. Ask specific questions. Is profanity tolerated in corpchat, how is the maturity of the members, is the CEO trying to boss people around or is he a laidback fellow, are there mandatory corp ops/activities, if so why?

Rinse and repeat, the most important thing is really just talking to the guys. Start with some corpdescribtion that rings a bell for you, for me it was a remark in a recruitmentpost that the corp is compromised of mostly older gamers with families and jobs that dont put pressure on members and recognize RL comes first.

So yeah imho finding a good corp with nice people is easy, there are plenty out there. Just dont expect it to come to you without a bit of effort or looking around on your part.

P.S.: Try to aim for a corp with less than 50 members and between 5-10 active at a time. Thats a sweetspot where you always have someone to talk too, yet not so many that you hardly recognize some faces.

EVE has the best community?

should be a joke

btw maybe immature adults have better humor than wow kids

Originally posted by Yamota

Originally posted by Kyleran  

 Uhm what? My post is not about what is wrong in Eve, it is what it is, but to say that it has the best community despite all the people that would go to great lenghts to grief you, is for me ridicilous.

Want people to behave themselves? Where did I say that? People can behave as they wish (and as the devs allow them to) but if they behave like asses I dont see that being a reason for winning best community award.

People say that Eves community is mature but age does not automatically imply maturity. I dont feel it is mature for people to have sick and offensive bios like: I creampied your mother (real example).

I dont think it is sign of a good community to have 100 variations of Satans Desciples as corp name.

Or to pod people just for the heck of it.

Or to have corps that scam people of their money (Eve Intergalactic Bank)

Do I think it needs to be changed? I dont know, that is not the point, but the best community it is not. Not by my definition anyway.

OK, let's examine your post.

You dislike offensive bio's.  So do I, along with craptastic names, (corp or character) so follow my lead, don't read their bio's and block their names when they offend you.   I've never spent a minute talking with people like you describe, fortunately there's usually 25K other people to converse with you.  That said, the few people that do this do not make for a bad community. (most BIO's are pretty interesting, and some are downright helpful). 

Podding people is no big deal, cost you very little unless of course, you are wearing expensive implants that you can't afford to lose. I don't go out of my way to pod others, but if the target presents itself, I'll take the shot.

As for the EVE Banking scam, that was again the actions of a a few, and just like in real life, there are bad apples.  Doesn't mean the majority of the players are decent.

You seem to focus so much on the bad people do, and never on the good they have in them.  I've been helped by far more people in EVE than been annoyed by, more so than any other game I've played.. 

It appears you feel a good community constitutes a bunch of alterusitc do-gooders and that most certainly doesn't describe EVE.

However, learrn how to manueveur (and even maniupulate) the community and you'll have a terrfiic time.

Originally posted by Rocketeer

Originally posted by Bazzyrick

I am really trying to convince myself to give EvE a go, I had a dabble about 1-2 years ago but RL meant I had to stop. The community of a game is really important to me, I am not going to play this game if my time will be spent flying around space on my own with only utter anti-social jerks in the chat channels to talk to. I have read pretty much every post on this topic and it just sounds like a big mix of harsh and cruel gameplay and friendly enjoyable gameplay.

If the above is correct, is it easy to get into the friendly and enjoyable part? I have played other games with big risk and while I will do my best to avoid it, I can certainly handle it.

 

Personally i find it really easy. I changed corps maybe 5 times in as many years, and i have never been put off by the members. Most people that have issues with this are simply lazy, they stay in the npc corps where everyone from iskspammer to farmbot starts out and then complain about the corpchat. Or they decide they want to try out a playercorp, and 5 min laters they took the first recruitment offer they saw in local and are appalled to find out its a bunch of jerks. Its really easy steps to find a good corp:

1. Decide what you want to do, or sometimes more important, what you dont want to do.

2. Join the ingame recruitment channel, thats how i found my corp, its a good place to start looking.

3. Visit the recruitment subforum on the official forums, just take a look at what is going on, what kind of corps are out there. Rule of thumb, if a prospective corp cant even be bothered to have a forum thread you shouldnt be bothered to go to the trouble checking them out some other ways.

4. Most corps looking for new members have a public channel, i typically hang out in such a place anywhere between a couple days or weeks(dont rush things, get to know the guys first).

5. Talk with the recruitment guys/girls, not just about joining the corp, but the game in general, are they a friendly bunch?

6. Ask specific questions. Is profanity tolerated in corpchat, how is the maturity of the members, is the CEO trying to boss people around or is he a laidback fellow, are there mandatory corp ops/activities, if so why?

Rinse and repeat, the most important thing is really just talking to the guys. Start with some corpdescribtion that rings a bell for you, for me it was a remark in a recruitmentpost that the corp is compromised of mostly older gamers with families and jobs that dont put pressure on members and recognize RL comes first.

So yeah imho finding a good corp with nice people is easy, there are plenty out there. Just dont expect it to come to you without a bit of effort or looking around on your part.

P.S.: Try to aim for a corp with less than 50 members and between 5-10 active at a time. Thats a sweetspot where you always have someone to talk too, yet not so many that you hardly recognize some faces.

Appreciate it, thanks Rocketeer. Just having to wait for a reply from the EvE service team because I lost my password and the password recovery emails wont show up lol.

Originally posted by Bazzyrick

I am really trying to convince myself to give EvE a go, I had a dabble about 1-2 years ago but RL meant I had to stop. The community of a game is really important to me, I am not going to play this game if my time will be spent flying around space on my own with only utter anti-social jerks in the chat channels to talk to. I have read pretty much every post on this topic and it just sounds like a big mix of harsh and cruel gameplay and friendly enjoyable gameplay.

If the above is correct, is it easy to get into the friendly and enjoyable part? I have played other games with big risk and while I will do my best to avoid it, I can certainly handle it.

It really is all about finding the right corp to join IMO. I've perhaps been very lucky, but all of the corps I've been in had mostly good people, with only a very few exceptions. My experience has also been that the PVP-focused corps tend to be more fun and have nicer people than the ISK-focused corps. That's "tend", by the way. It's not a hard and fast rule.

You may have to try 2 or 3 or 4 corps out before you really find the one that suits you. Dont worry, this is quite normal. As said above, try and narrow your search to corps that are strongly focused on the type of activity you're interested in, be that mining, piracy, or whatever.

Equally importantly, you need to consider what you can offer a corp. Corps above all value people who log in, participate and contribute. Personal SP and wealth are less important than this (although it helps a great deal if you are at least self-sufficient).

If you want to join a mining corp, then put some time in to learning what minerals are important and why, how hauling works & so forth.

If you want to join a PVP corp, try and get some PVP experience, with Faction Warfare, Red vs Blue, Agony Unleashed or even just taking a Rifter in to lo-sec and looking for opportunities.

Consider joining EVE University so that you know the basics of the game. Although corps exist to help their members, it is good to make an effort to reduce the number of noob questions you will ask. EvE players will respect you far more if you've made an effort to find out what you want to know. Few people are despised as much as those who dont even try to do this.

In short, dont worry too much about your skillpoints. Focus on being able to be a good team member, and your corp will value you.

Caveat: Even good corps can sometimes have bad people in them. Keep your personal belongings in your own hangar as much as possible. Dont lend people (or corps) ISK you can't afford to not get back. You will have to trust people to get ahead in EVE, but you should always be mindful not to trust them more than you really have to.

Originally posted by Malcanis

Originally posted by Bazzyrick

I am really trying to convince myself to give EvE a go, I had a dabble about 1-2 years ago but RL meant I had to stop. The community of a game is really important to me, I am not going to play this game if my time will be spent flying around space on my own with only utter anti-social jerks in the chat channels to talk to. I have read pretty much every post on this topic and it just sounds like a big mix of harsh and cruel gameplay and friendly enjoyable gameplay.

If the above is correct, is it easy to get into the friendly and enjoyable part? I have played other games with big risk and while I will do my best to avoid it, I can certainly handle it.

 

It really is all about finding the right corp to join IMO. I've perhaps been very lucky, but all of the corps I've been in had mostly good people, with only a very few exceptions. My experience has also been that the PVP-focused corps tend to be more fun and have nicer people than the ISK-focused corps. That's "tend", by the way. It's not a hard and fast rule.

You may have to try 2 or 3 or 4 corps out before you really find the one that suits you. Dont worry, this is quite normal. As said above, try and narrow your search to corps that are strongly focused on the type of activity you're interested in, be that mining, piracy, or whatever.

Equally importantly, you need to consider what you can offer a corp. Corps above all value people who log in, participate and contribute. Personal SP and wealth are less important than this (although it helps a great deal if you are at least self-sufficient).

If you want to join a mining corp, then put some time in to learning what minerals are important and why, how hauling works & so forth.

If you want to join a PVP corp, try and get some PVP experience, with Faction Warfare, Red vs Blue, Agony Unleashed or even just taking a Rifter in to lo-sec and looking for opportunities.

Consider joining EVE University so that you know the basics of the game. Although corps exist to help their members, it is good to make an effort to reduce the number of noob questions you will ask. EvE players will respect you far more if you've made an effort to find out what you want to know. Few people are despised as much as those who dont even try to do this.

In short, dont worry too much about your skillpoints. Focus on being able to be a good team member, and your corp will value you.

Caveat: Even good corps can sometimes have bad people in them. Keep your personal belongings in your own hangar as much as possible. Dont lend people (or corps) ISK you can't afford to not get back. You will have to trust people to get ahead in EVE, but you should always be mindful not to trust them more than you really have to.

Its answers like the above, and previous reply to my first post, who give the impression that EvE does have a nice community. You get the odd a-hole. Big deal? You get them in every game, I havent even got round to playing this game yet and I can already tell its going to have a nice community. People just get hung up on the few bad things that happen to them and they end up forgetting about all the good things. Just have to wait for the service team to reply about my password and then I can give it a whirl. The forgot password automatic emails dont work :(

Bazzyrick,

I tried the EvE trial about 6 times before finally committing to the game, and I haven’t been disappointed. My current character is just over 1 year old and I’ve recently landed in a great Corp that’s full of very friendly and mature players.

All of the drama you hear about EvE is largely overblown or (almost) entirely avoidable. I’m not particularly experienced in PvP, but I’m getting there, and virtually all of my encounters have been along the lines of: I get blown up. I say GF in local and ask for some advice. I get advice, as well as money and/or ships on occasion. In one instance my attacker gave me money to replace the ship and modules I’d lost and then invited me into his Corp. On another I became friends with the guy and he gave me other fitting advice later on.

I can say with confidence that the reason my experience has been positive is largely due to my approach. If I choose to fly around in low sec I accept that I may be attacked. If that happens, I don’t bitch and moan about it, I accept it and ask how I can improve myself. I have a sneaking suspicion that those who relate these horrible stories are probably whiners, or extremely confrontational, when they’re attacked in a similar situation – and in EvE if you choose to put yourself at risk and then cry about getting blown up you’ll get no sympathy. If you’re honestly looking to improve yourself, and realize that in the end it’s just a videogame, you’ll meet lots of friendly people.

Also, about the whole podding thing: If you’re smart, and keep your clone up-to-date, getting podded isn’t that big of a deal. If you have expensive implants use a jump clone when doing something dangerous, or do your best to avoid said danger. Of course it will happen that you lose something valuable (ship, implants, whatever), but it’s that sense of real loss that makes EvE fun – your actions, and the actions of others, have real consequence.

In any event, I’ve come from playing WoW and CoX for many years and can honestly say that the EvE community is far, far better than both of those games. This game is about thinking, strategy, some patience and (ironicly enough, based on some of the above comments) your ability to relate to others. It’s not for everyone, but if you do enjoy it, it can become the best game you’ve ever played. I hope you choose to give it a try and find out for yourself.

Good luck, and fly safe!
 

Originally posted by Bazzyrick

Originally posted by Malcanis

Originally posted by Bazzyrick

I am really trying to convince myself to give EvE a go, I had a dabble about 1-2 years ago but RL meant I had to stop. The community of a game is really important to me, I am not going to play this game if my time will be spent flying around space on my own with only utter anti-social jerks in the chat channels to talk to. I have read pretty much every post on this topic and it just sounds like a big mix of harsh and cruel gameplay and friendly enjoyable gameplay.

If the above is correct, is it easy to get into the friendly and enjoyable part? I have played other games with big risk and while I will do my best to avoid it, I can certainly handle it.

 

It really is all about finding the right corp to join IMO. I've perhaps been very lucky, but all of the corps I've been in had mostly good people, with only a very few exceptions. My experience has also been that the PVP-focused corps tend to be more fun and have nicer people than the ISK-focused corps. That's "tend", by the way. It's not a hard and fast rule.

You may have to try 2 or 3 or 4 corps out before you really find the one that suits you. Dont worry, this is quite normal. As said above, try and narrow your search to corps that are strongly focused on the type of activity you're interested in, be that mining, piracy, or whatever.

Equally importantly, you need to consider what you can offer a corp. Corps above all value people who log in, participate and contribute. Personal SP and wealth are less important than this (although it helps a great deal if you are at least self-sufficient).

If you want to join a mining corp, then put some time in to learning what minerals are important and why, how hauling works & so forth.

If you want to join a PVP corp, try and get some PVP experience, with Faction Warfare, Red vs Blue, Agony Unleashed or even just taking a Rifter in to lo-sec and looking for opportunities.

Consider joining EVE University so that you know the basics of the game. Although corps exist to help their members, it is good to make an effort to reduce the number of noob questions you will ask. EvE players will respect you far more if you've made an effort to find out what you want to know. Few people are despised as much as those who dont even try to do this.

In short, dont worry too much about your skillpoints. Focus on being able to be a good team member, and your corp will value you.

Caveat: Even good corps can sometimes have bad people in them. Keep your personal belongings in your own hangar as much as possible. Dont lend people (or corps) ISK you can't afford to not get back. You will have to trust people to get ahead in EVE, but you should always be mindful not to trust them more than you really have to.

 

Its answers like the above, and previous reply to my first post, who give the impression that EvE does have a nice community. You get the odd a-hole. Big deal? You get them in every game, I havent even got round to playing this game yet and I can already tell its going to have a nice community. People just get hung up on the few bad things that happen to them and they end up forgetting about all the good things. Just have to wait for the service team to reply about my password and then I can give it a whirl. The forgot password automatic emails dont work :(

Disclaimer: I am a horrible ganking griefer who exists purely to stamp on new players, kick puppies and generally do evil.

Ask anyone.