Originally posted by wowfan1996

Never played RoM.

However, leveling in Allods gets more complicated past LVL23-24. You arrive to the first PvP zone by that time and, as usual, the first PvP zone is the place where you must endure the worst of it. There are many PvP-related quests and as soon as highlevel gankers appear, things get really messy, especially during peak hours. Nival has taken steps to alleviate the problem. They implemented PvP flags - something very similar to PvE servers in WoW. But this obviously wasn't planned in the early stages of development, so there are some flaws. The most annoying one is the easily farmable buff that allows to attack PvP-unflagged characters.

Also, somewhere past LVL30 quests aren't sufficient anymore so a certain amount of grind is to be expected. Can't really tell how much (I've never got that far) but according to forum posts it's roughly 2-3 levels worth of XP.

All in all, it doesn't take too long to get to 40. For some people 1-40 is just a couple of weeks, although they're probably nolifers.

Ah good thanks seems not that bad.

My problem with runes of magic was because of a load amount of quests that gave so low of exp reward that made it boring for me.

Originally posted by Simiel

maplestory, anyone?

I honestly don't understand why people play F2P MMO nowaday, because it's more than obvious that ALL of them will turn into a pile of crap.

Please if anyone could name a successful F2P that doesn't involve game-breaking cash shop, please.

Guild Wars? Or course it was a buy to play, but free to play afterwards. MMO's are going to get money out of you one way or another and I've kind of loosened up on my anti free to play with cash shop thinking now days since a lot of pay to plays are using cash shops anyways.

I would rather play a free to play with a cash shop than a pay to play with a cash shop. I mean look at CO (Champions Online), they took an item they KNEW everyone would need at some point or other. Made it difficult to get in game and then added it to there cash shop.

So... I'm not as adverse to Free to plays with cash shops as much now days looking at the state of pay to plays. Now days it's about what ever is fun for me. Allods is fun for me and as long as the cash shop doesn't ruin my fun I could care less.

Guild Wars system is fair and the most reasonable for a PvP-based game. That's why GW is still so popular. I predict that GW2 will be a massive success.

On the other hand, f2p games with cash shop are doomed. They're just exploiting novelty effect now, when MMO market is still booming. But it's almost over. The competition will only get worse, because Blizzard won't rest on its laurels and other big players will want to keep their market shares (at the very least).

If you're making a f2p game and going to sell something, you'll end up selling unfair advantages. Even if that's against your intentions. There will be "this one time" when you'll desperately need some extra revenue. Such things happen to every company. You'll give in, and then there's no turning back.

 The paid chats of zones it is a trifle, Allody-online: no donate, no game. My advice delete game, it's Russian epic fail.

Summoner 40 level, rus server "Sumerky Bogov".

So after a little more looking into it it breaks down like this currently on the Russian version, which is a few updates further than ours and in open beta:

1.  Astral megaphones - Used similarly to a /yell where the entire faction can see what you say.

2.  Megaphones - Used for local zone chat.

Both of these are purchased in the cash shop.

Having to pay for items to use on a special channel, or for yelling is one thing, but having to pay just to talk in a region or zone chat, no thanks. 

Originally posted by Margulis

So after a little more looking into it it breaks down like this currently on the Russian version, which is a few updates further than ours and in open beta:

 

1.  Astral megaphones - Used similarly to a /yell where the entire faction can see what you say.

2.  Megaphones - Used for local zone chat.

Both of these are purchased in the cash shop.

Having to pay for items to use on a special channel, or for yelling is one thing, but having to pay just to talk in a region or zone chat, no thanks. 

zone megaphones are used for "special chat." not zone chat. We believe this is to allow you to have colored text in zone chat or something. you dont need it to talk in zone.

Originally posted by baguette

Originally posted by Margulis

So after a little more looking into it it breaks down like this currently on the Russian version, which is a few updates further than ours and in open beta:

 

1.  Astral megaphones - Used similarly to a /yell where the entire faction can see what you say.

2.  Megaphones - Used for local zone chat.

Both of these are purchased in the cash shop.

Having to pay for items to use on a special channel, or for yelling is one thing, but having to pay just to talk in a region or zone chat, no thanks. 

 

zone megaphones are used for "special chat." not zone chat. We believe this is to allow you to have colored text in zone chat or something. you dont need it to talk in zone.

 

 

If that's the case it doesn't bother me and I don't think it will be a problem, but from what I understood people from the Russian OB were saying they were needed for any sort of zone chat. Hopefully you're right and that information is wrong.

Originally posted by bloodaxes

Not flaming you or whatever wowfan but since your playing allods OBT and I guess you been playing it for a few weeks and/or visit their forums, how's the leveling speed after the current cap in closed beta? Is it faster say then runes of magic or at least more enjoyable? (hated the 1000s of quests that gave sooo low of exp each)

I have been playing Allods since CB1. 

Leveling is balanced, but pay attention to your "blue exp". If you run out you will be grinding 3-5 bubbles. Which really sucks because mobs give low xp.

Holy Lands, the 3rd area is really a gank fest. Whatever makes it to level 30 first will dominate the server. In CB's case Empire. No one can really level b/c some level 30 is going to camp the area a player needs to be questing. 

If you like faction based pvp and griefers this is the game for you. There are talks of a flagging system coming for CB4. If it does I will be posting it here.

There are still quite a few large bugs and lots of class imbalances. seems the developers are more concerned with end game class imbalances than lower levels. 

Well, I would consider end game balancing to be more important than at lower levels. Unless they plan on allowing people to have twinks, classes at lower levels would probably well off just being about to solo or quest with some ease.

Also, you might see a lot of ganking now mostly because the end game content isn't in the game. It might become a lot less likely to happen once the game goes live, because people will be focusing on getting to the end game.

I would have no objection for a World chat item, because that would just be free ground for RMT. For zone chat? no thats neccecary for community. When goldspammers come along, just blacklist. 

 Gold spammers are going to have a very difficult time. Gold can be bought via the Item shop. Leveling is very quick. Good items are BOP. Reputation grinds are very short. About the only items the gold spammers can help with is the Astral Ships. I imagine that will be addressed too. Seems Allods Online is going to great lengths to help spammers move along.

From what I experienced in the 3rd closed beta the game seems to allow zone chat but prevents any higher chat (world). A lot of an inconvience when taking into account finding groups for higher level areas, but for the starting zones it works just fine.

I suppose in theory they expect if you have the dedication to level up a character (fairly slow process overall I'd say) then you probably are dedicated enough to the game to shell out a couple of bucks to talk in world chat.

It otherwise looks to be like one of the best F2P games available, giving a fairly similar experience WoW gives but with no monthy charge.

If those items are tradeable then they will probably be a big business like in jade dynasty and ether saga to sell rare stuff and/or item mall items and they should cost fairly cheap in ingame gold well at least I hope it's like the other games..

The game is still in CLOSED BETA. As a matter of FACT, you can speak in zone chat freely in Beta. There is no comprehensive list of the items that will be available once Closed Beta ends.

Using the Russian site as a comparison for the cash shop is a big mistake. The Russian version of the game is run by Astrum Nival, the developers. The English versions are being run by Gpotato and will not necessarily have the same items in their cash shop.

Few things, blacksmiths can make keys, and the zone chat item is only for special colored announcement, such as events and such, you can talk in zone chat all day long. Having to pay to speak to the entire world is a god dam godsend in today's internet populace.

Stop being a bunch of sensationalists.

Originally posted by wowfan1996

 

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Originally posted by atziluth
If you want kiddy spam fest and epeen fights I suggest WOW crossroads.

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*dreamy Homer Simpson voice* Mmmmmmm, Barrens. ;-)
 

 

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Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Originally posted by Lexiscat

Yep, they have to make their money somehow. This is one of those things people will spend their money on.

Oh, they could maybe  - I don't know - perhaps - make a game that is good enough for people to pay to play it without having each and every feature paid a la carte? Nah!

Pay for postage next? Pay for fast travel? Buy your levels?

You should really play the game before you comment, this game is more refined than most P2P games.

I usually try to only view say and whisper chat anyways, I find the conversations very irritating and a major turn off from playing with other people. So not game breaking imo.

I've been in the Closed Beta for Allods in the US and I've not noticed these supposed special items for chat in the store that is clearly visable.  Of course if they do have it  by open beta that will somewhat suck to have no access to zone chat since you need that for getting groups together for the 10+ people required raid mobs you can get blue quest items for killing.

I also didn't notice any items on the cash shop that would give anyone particular combat advantage over another.   I wouldn't call it ala carte either more like do you want to have this fancier looking peice of clothing or a bigger backpack.  There are XP potions if I remember correctly which would go over nice with those that would rather grind mobs then do quests. (mobs typically give a small amount of XP compared to quests).

Originally posted by hidden1

Originally posted by Lexiscat

Originally posted by bloodaxes

It's normal for free 2 play to have items to talk in a special chat channel were everyone online can see and also prevents gold spammers from spamming whole chat.

You can always join a guild and/or whisper those people that use the special chat channel for grouping.

 

Yep, they have to make their money somehow. This is one of those things people will spend their money on.

 

Yep, and the same reason why I quit playing Requiem.

me too